Countries that maybe under attack?

[Simon]

Keep it short. Which countries do you in your openion think the US will attack and do you think they will go all out on civilians whatever comes on their path or specific locations?

a) Afganistan (obviously =) )
b) Iraq
c) Iran
d) Libnan
e) Egypt
f) Seria

[spock199]

Egypt? Why Egypt - that's one of Bin Ladens biggest enemies - bone up on your mid east politics.

[Fuck Milan's sister, $1]

yugoslavia !!

Run for your shelter Milan !! lol

[William]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fuck Milan's sister, $1:
yugoslavia !!

Run for your shelter Milan !! lol</font>

Yeah, really mature.

[toker]

I think Libnan will be a primary target and as well all know civilians will be cought in crossfire. You have alot of pissed off soldiers who had family killed in this and im sure its a personal issue for them.

[Fuck Milan's sister, $1]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by William:
Yeah, really mature.</font>

Hey come on, I have grown fond of this little slav boy.

I would not want to see any danger befall him. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Total Newbie]

If America attacks any country at all its going to be for "effect" just as the terrorists used our planes for "effect".

Why ?

because if its Bin Laden his terrorist camps are in like 10 different countrys and his cells exist in around 50-60 countrys including the USand its allies.

So if we attack anyone it will be due to your fellow american's lust for blood and revenge.

Bin Laden is an ex CIA homie.

he even had CIA training and moneys

isn't it odd how America turns on people they backed only a few short years ago.

the terroristts have truely won

because its still effecting our way of life.

i watch only one TV show only one every day.

the pretenter reruns on TNT.

and they fucking took out all episodes that depict terrorist or harm to america citizens by foriegners.

WTF TNT is letting them win

get this shit off the news get your asses back to "normal" life and these assholes wouldn't be getting the supreme satisfaction they are getting right now.

they know that the wholw world is pissed and at arms.

this is why they won

they hate our freedoms

which we are losing more of now at the airports and who knows what legislation will pass restricting our lives further in areas such as privacy.

yes they have won this is what they wanted

we are letting them win

if their goal was striktly numbers they would have used a nuke chemical biological weapons.

i am sure they could have gotten a glass vial or a toxin on a plane that would have spread on impact but they didn't.

becasue they give a fuck less about the amount of people they kill as compared to the amount of peoples lives they can effect.

yes they have won
and we are all still letting them win

get back to your "normal" life grieve in your own home not on the fucking cameras and they will see there is no point in doing this again.

'nuff said

[Simon]

Spok ,
2 of the hijackers were apparently from egypt.

[blind]

If they cancel the production of the movie Black Hawk Down, based on the book, and the battle that took place in Somolia, im am going to go kill Laden my fucking self.

[theo]

why don't you attact the headquarters of CIA in order to avoid any future B.Laden or president assasinations?

[shane]

Just nuke the entire middle east, the whole lot are fucked up

[Total Newbie]

Theo

i don't "kill" anything i am sinple stating that american has a way of using people/countrys to thier advantage and whn they are no longer of use they discard them.

its how they have treated or vetrans thru history as well

remember the WW1 vets that didn't get thier checks they were promised and were shot down in front of the capitol builing.

i bet you don't

[theo]

total,in your posts i found many points i do agree. But i really can't stand the paranoia some of the webmasters here express lately. The good is that they key positions in American belong to more logical people.

[aw-tolik]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by shane:
Just nuke the entire middle east, the whole lot are fucked up</font>

and country when live shit like you be nuked as revenge....

[Simon]

"Nuking" anything is not going to resolve anything except cause more trouble.

I honestly can't figure out how they plan to do this, but either way its not going to be the most peaceful times ... thats for sure.

[sonicpuke]

These are the countries most likely to be targeted (But only if they are harboring terrorists and refuse to cooperate)

Afghanistan
Syria
Lybia
Iraq
Sudan
Palestine (I don't think we'll be attacking palestine but there may be some "actions" in that part of the world also)

There are other countries that could be on this list but these are the ones most likely not to give the full cooperation that will be required to avoid some sort of possible military action.

Remember though it's the GOVERNMENTS of these countries that are a problem. It's not people of these nationalities.

They will have a choice to cooperate to help us end this but whoever or whatever stands in between the world and the terrorists now stands in a very bad place. I haven't really run into one person who doesn't think that we need to do something to strike back that is even worse than what they did to us. From what I hear a lot of the rest of the world is also getting behind us on this. If the rest of the world is even 1/2 as pissed off as america is about this I think we have a decent chance of stomping out a lot of terrorist groups. (It's going to get a LOT hairier trying to train terrorists in the future I think)

[Milan]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Fuck Milan's sister, $1:
yugoslavia !!

Run for your shelter Milan !! lol</font>
Dont forget who you are and where are you from!!!!!!!

[Swat]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by sonicpuke:
These are the countries most likely to be targeted (But only if they are harboring terrorists and refuse to cooperate)

Afghanistan
Syria
Lybia
Iraq
Sudan
Palestine (I don't think we'll be attacking palestine but there may be some "actions" in that part of the world also)
</font>

Excuse me , but where exactly is "palestine" ?
Is there such country ?
If you meant the terrorists from Gaza , then all usa need to do is to let IDF fuck them up .

[tmknight]

Afghanistan will almost certainly be attacked with both air and ground forces. If the investigation links Iraqi leadership, no doubt Iraq should expect the same.

Any other attacks will be isolated to certain locales within countries where cooperative terrorist groups will be targeted. These will probably come with the permission - or knowledge - of the countries involved and include Egypt.

Many around the world think American people like war, when in fact, American people would rather just keep to themselves and often criticize US policy of getting involved with other countries problems.

This time is different. US military has full support of its citizens now. And the military leaders are willing to risk casualties to end US threats. This simply means that those involved or providing assistance to those involved will be eliminated. Regardless of if that is good or bad, that is the way it will be.

[Total Newbie]

Just a side note i am not sure about last 2 years but i know in 1999 the us gave over 3 billion to egypt i believe it was the largest amount we gave to any country that year and second was isreal with 2 billion. the onlty reason i remember it was 1999 was the isrealis leaders name that i can't spell but it sounds like mentenyahoo lol sorry about spelling. anyway i remember casue thus guy made a statemnet to the effect of basicaly not takeing the american buy off in the future.

anyways the facts remain egypt 3 billion

when will america have an enemy that really an enemy and a friend thats really a friend.

makes no fucking sense to me

why the fuck did my uncle die in vietnam if we were going to trade / let them immigrate here / etc. if they are enemies then they are enemies.

Right ?

[tmknight]

Total Newbie:

Right or wrong, that is what the US is about. After WWII, we paid to rebuild Japan and in many cases European nations. We fight to protect freedom in South Vietnam - asked but not wanted - divide our country, lose many american lives and then open our borders to refugees.

In afghanistan, 2 Americans, 2 Australians and about 6 others have been arrested - accused of "spreading Christianity" which is punishable by death.

Is democracy absolute? No.
Is freedom absolute? No.

Can a fundamentalist muslim live in the United States without being imprisoned? Until Tuesday, I say Yes.

Most countries don't put up with people that disagree with them. In United States, dissenting opinions is why we exist.

It doesn't matter now, if you want my opinion.
Many countries in the middle east are now targeted as enemies of the US and what we think is civilization.
Calling it jihad or declaring fatwah or whatever.

There is a real war coming - lasting years. Not between US and islams, but between "Civilized countries" and those that threaten the rest of the world.

Choose your side now, because there is no switching sides. I choose freedom for the world - regardless if it is absolute/perfect or not.

If it weren't for countries like the US - whether or not everything done is right or wrong - many people in the world, if not all, would not have a choice at all.

[Total Newbie]

tmknight

i only ask that people think thats all i only really bother responding to threads like this becasue alot of people seem to think its straight forward. and the facts are we aren't going to blow up 10 fucking countrys over this. ain't no fucking way becasue about 4 of the most likely targets(the ones that have knowledge of bin Ladens training camps in there borders and do nothing or very little to stop it) have biological chemical and/or nuclear weapons.

if in fact Bin Laden is behind this we will attack a country and its going to be out of blood lust pure and simple becuase bombing a country based on what a terrorist group does is silly.

what if McViegh bombed the chinesse would you wanna get bombed cause McVieghs a crazy ass loc'ed to the brain loser ?

fuck no

no country ever has been in the right everytime becasue humans are behind it and we are animals we make mistakes and are still somewhat driven by instinct to this day.

only fucking 20 years ago the CIA was training Bin Laden and giving him money/supplys to help afghanistan fight the USSR and now we are willing to blow up the very country we wanted to liberate and the very man that helped us out.

i have only one friend that i have known for 20 years being only 27 ;-) and i have no intention of suddenlt turning on him and car bombing him.

whats the real reason this ass doesn't like us ?

and whats the real reason the fucks at the CIA every used him in the beginning ?

these are the things i can't find answers to as i make this gallery.

but i agree with you to a degree tmknight

P.S.
i don't know hoe many of you believe in the New World Order but if you do then you also believe/know that the federal reserve is behind it to a great degree.

and you also know the the federal reserve is a business and is not the actual U S government.

and you also know that in 1949 the US federal reserve hade 22,000 tons of gold under the federal reserve buiding in new york and at that time it was more then half of the gold ever mined in the entire world.

you know that this gold came from the european nations and japan and the USSR etc. etc. we promised them they could use our dollars (the only currency that was worth anything after WW2) that we sold them and they could buy their gold back later. then in 1971 when they all started to come up the federal reserve didn't want to sell it back so they when to nixon and he changed the rules around and basically the federal reserve told them to fuck off.

Why ?

becasue the federal reserves worst enemy would be a country that somehow could achieve the gold stantard becasue it would cause all other currencys based on "faith" and "taxing authority" to become worthless.


too long of a post sorry i get carried away.

when is someone going to tell me a good gay email sponsor or one that does all types of sex. that leaves the surfer on my page when they sing up.

thanks

[tmknight]

Newbie:

I am not a blind faith believer in US government. But as a US citizen, I have that right not only on this board, but in my own country.

What I say is that this attack on innocent people was horrible regardless of country.

And, regardless of what I think, there will be no stopping it now. The US and allies will retaliate. I can almost guarantee Afghanistan and Iraq will see US ground troops. This US government is preparing its people for this through rhetoric.

The real probelm with US policy is that before 1941, we were isolationist. Other countries did not like this. Our in involvement in WWII was too late for them, although we preserved democracy once we became involved. Since WWII, we have become the opposite - policeman to the world. Everyone loves policemen when they need something, but hate to see them when they don't.

Our policy should be inbetween. But now it is too late. Don't agree? See what is going on 6 months from now and remember my words.

The US government in accordance with this terrorism is preparing its citizens for a war to eradicate threats against the "civilized world".

[Total Newbie]

tmknight

personaly iam an expansionist so i believe that if e goto the middle east we just take it the fuck over and be done with it.

lets take over countrys we don't like instead of blowing them to shit then allowing then to rebuild or put in a puppet government or whatever. lets just straight make it part of the US. i give a fuck if china has a problem with us owning iraq etc. because lets face it how important is it do they really want to kill the world ? do we ? fuck no we have the biggest balls so lets us them from now on if we bother to send troops somewhere lets just take the place over. then we don't ever have to worry about it again and sooner or later we will own it all becasue sooner or later all other countrys make a mistake in our eyes.


but i totally agree with your last post ;-)

and i still need a email sponsor that includes gay and doesn't take my surfer off the page
thanks

[spock199]

newbie

I dont think you can compare McViegh with Bin Laden - if the US encouraged and funded McVeigh in his attempt to attack and bomb China then perhaps the analogy coud be made.

With regards to your comments on the Federal Reserve, part of the reasons that dollars were being held back was to protect the world economy as a whole as the major economies were changing from a gold standard to an oil standard. The US gave billions of dollars in aide to the countries you mentioned after WWll in order to prop up their economies and asist their populations.

[taimaster]

WHAT THE FUCK IS WITH ALL THIS FUCKING BULL SHIT POST? WHY THE FUCK YOU WANT A WAR??!! IT IS BAD ENOUGHT THAT YOU DONT FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE THATS BEEN DEAD BUT TALKING ABOUT NUKING OTHER COUNTRY IS FUCK UP, IF THE US START A FIGHT THERE SURELY BE WW3!

sorry for the caps, for real stop fucking post dumbass post! we have to move on to our daily lives people, all you people seems to talk about is this thing over and over again.

[Total Newbie]

spock

your right the us gave money its the federal reserve that profited off that ;-)

[tmknight]

It doesn't matter what I want to do.
The writing is on the wall.

Listen to US Assistant Secretary of Defense speech yesterday.

Everything he said was to prepare US citizens to prepare for longterm war. That is bad for business and everyone, but its out of my hands. Wait, it never was in my hands.

Bye bye bin Laden.

[dukepaul]

may i ask the armchair generals that seem to be in abundance here, how do they think the US will ferry possible thousands of ground troops into Afghanistan. Which road will they take. I don't see pakistan, iraq or any of the CIS countries allowing gi joe to just walk down the path to the Afghan border.
And secondly, both the British and the Russians have paid dearly for the folly of trying to fight a war in Afghanistan. IS the US so invencible that it can play against the odds.

[spock199]

Perhaps you dont see Pakistan allowing GI Joe to walk down to the Afghan border, but the rest of the world soon will. Even though Pakistan is a huge fan of Bin Laden they are an even huger fan of self preservation and the Federal Reserve will make sure they toe the line - after all money talks and bullshit walks - the threat of being cut of from the West's vast treasures will quickly show everyone Pakistans true colours.

[Fuck Milan's sister, $1]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by spock199:
Perhaps you dont see Pakistan allowing GI Joe to walk down to the Afghan border, but the rest of the world soon will. Even though Pakistan is a huge fan of Bin Laden they are an even huger fan of self preservation and the Federal Reserve will make sure they toe the line - after all money talks and bullshit walks - the threat of being cut of from the West's vast treasures will quickly show everyone Pakistans true colours.</font>

Pakistan is already cut off from aid since like '98 when the tested nuclear weapons.

[thrillseekre]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Milan:
Originally posted by Fuck Milan's sister, $1:
yugoslavia !!

Run for your shelter Milan !! lol</font>
Dont forget who you are and where are you from!!!!!!!



i'm from NY USA and we're nuking Milan.
i don't forget
hehe

[Groovy]

guys...

i don't think this is a very smart discussion...
why blame a country?
let the fbi find this stuff out and then we should talk again.

most webmasters want to go back to real bussines, and another reason is there are no good arguments to blame anyone yet...

so i say, stop this shit and go back to work. us will find out who did this, then we can talk again.

[candide]

Uh.. how does the US suspect to magically eliminate every terrorist organisation from off the face of the planet ever so quickly? Britain has been fighting the IRA for years, and they're just across the sea, and they haven't had any luck. The Israelis have been fighting the PLO for years as well. Um, the Algerian government has been fighting the GIA and FIS, two groups who essentially hide in the hills since 1989 with no luck, governments of Latin America have been fighting drug cartels for years with victory no where in sight.. um.. and the US expects to just say "HEY LETS KILL ALL THE TERRORISTS"? I don't really think that's a realistic goal. Just my opinion.

[Simon]

I just hope USA doesn't go insane and decide to do anything stupid such as putting their new Proton or Hydrogen Bombs into use for experiemental purposes. Obviously that is not going to happen but you never know.

[Total Newbie]

to the guy that said WAR was bad for business your wrong sorry to say. WAR is only bad for business if your the one getting bombed the facts are that after every major war there is a boom time.

i.e. the early and mid 20's
and the late forstys thru to the mid 50's
only after vietnam did we not have a massive growth but maybe it just took an extra 5 years to hit us if i remember right 82 on has been pretty damn good.


also war speeds the normal patth of technological advancement by 500%

yes that right advancements that are thought up for reasons of war are most often used in a non war application after the war.

this is prolly part iof the rreason for the excelerated growth.

just my two euros

thanks

[sonicpuke]

Here is what is going to happen (In my oppinion)

Within the next week or 2 the actual war will start (Congress has already today approved both the money and the authorization to use the military to solve this problem)

Things are different now. In the past americans worried about the money, about the soldiers of ours who might die or civilians that might get killed if our military took action in some far far away jungle for god knows why. Yesterday that changed forever. This is not some far away country and remote IDEA like democracy. The world trade towers are gone (ON OUR HOME SOIL).

Talk all you want about things our country didn't follow through on in the past. We are not now fighting for to "help" some other country or group. We ourselves have been attacked.

We support quite a large military complex here even though we have been at peace for years. (The last I checked it was the largest and most technilogically advanced on earth with no even close competition) There mandate is to protect us and wage our wars.

This is not some small thing that we will do because we can't bear to see some terrible thing happen halfway around the world. This is an attack on our very right to live. People saw what happened to the japanese for what they did. Expect nothing less from this. Our military is THERE for such situations and now it will be used with NO regrets.

This is what will happen soon.

Terrorist groups will be found. (We have technology that will help with this but this is not all. Money has already been appropriated for this war. Cost will not be an issue. They will be found by satelitte or whatever else it might take.)

Once found those terrorist groups will be broken up using ANY available methods (From a to z including air, sea and ground troops)
Countries harboring these people might not be immediatly attacked. It will depend a lot on past and current cooperation.

BUT
Hard choices are going to have to be made by most countries in this world. Either you are with the good guys (USA) or your with the bad guys. I know many people think this isn't true but soon you will know that it is. Countries that do not cooperate to help us stamp out this evil will get ZERO support from us. If they are actually HARBORING terrorists they could face many even worse sanctions including blockade, bombing or even occupation if necassary to ensure our safety.

Countries that are against us might suddenly find that the little democratic opposition groups in thier country suddenly turns up with american money, newfangled american weapons and training maybe even american bomber support and intelegence. (I know some will point to vietnam, the contras or some situation in the past when america seemed it wouldn't go all out for one of these opposition groups but things are different now. EVERYTHING changed when the WTC went down.)

Last week none of these things could have even been imagined. This week it is the obvious only choice.

Just last week the democrats were starting a big fight over the social security lockbox.
Funny. I haven't heard one word about it since the bombing. I think I saw the democrats carrying some of the money today out of the lockbox over to the defense department.

It almost seems like there is no such things as democrats and republicans now. We are all americans first now and we are 100% together on this. The senate unanimously approved the money today and military authorization for this war. The congress was 420-1 or something.

This is going to be a long war and it will be serious bussiness. Many countries will be involved though they wont all be attacked. Countries that support or harbor terrorism will be isolated and when needed governments toppled. I know we were unable to do that in vietnam. But this is different. The entire country is behind this now because it's NOT vietnam. It's the WORLD TRADE CENTER for gods sake.

They have declared war now for sure. Unfortunatly it's as if they didn't realize who they were fucking with.
We WILL win this war. We will NOT be stopped.

I have one suprise prediction for you too. I predict that when the stock market opens on monday it will actually go UP. (And in any case it is NOT going to crash) They thought that they could destroy or damage our economy. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Our economy WILL survive as if anyone thought it wouldn't and I predict it will come back stronger than ever. Likewise the world trade centers will be rebuilt I predict. We may even build 4 this time just because we can.....

[snow]

It's not countries there going after its groups.. We may go to Egypt to weed out terrorists but not the whole damm country..

[snow]

NEVER WILL WE PUT MEN ON THE GROUND IN AFGHANASTAN YOUR INSANE......

This will be a complete Air campaign and Tomohawks Launced from carriers... The Teliban wont be too hard..... There the first to go..And i think were gonna have a hrd time finding laden.. he can be in mexico by now..

[Simon]

I think USA army got messed up in vietnam and expect something similar in afganistan as well , if they are planing on doing ground troops.

They'r civilians will die to death to protect what they call they'r country just like the vietnam civilans did. I honestly think it is far best for US to do air attacks on specific locations, I difinately agree with snow. Putting ground troops in Afganistan is absolutly insane.

[Simon]

die to death = fight to death with their shovels if they have to ...
is what i meant

[Simon]

According to a report i just heard, US had actully funded a group of rebelians back in late 80s to drive the Russians out of afganistan. and guess what? Ben ladin was one of the guys that USA had been funding.

Could be a lie , im just saying what im hearing. I just wish all CIA and FBI documents regarding these issues were public. Then we'd all know what the hell we'r talking about. hahahh

[Milan]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Simon:
According to a report i just heard, US had actully funded a group of rebelians back in late 80s to drive the Russians out of afganistan. and guess what? Ben ladin was one of the guys that USA had been funding.

Could be a lie , im just saying what im hearing. I just wish all CIA and FBI documents regarding these issues were public. Then we'd all know what the hell we'r talking about. hahahh</font>
Yes this is true(but CIA want that to be known)!!!!!!

[Viking]

Afghanistan:

Current population of the country: 25824882
Female/Male Ratio (females per 100 males, 1997): 95

Source: http://194.164.96.211/country.asp?ID=1
Population.com

That will end up as a rather big war with A LOT of killing!

[sonicpuke]

Yes it's true we funded the afghans at one point ;( Sure sucks now though that was long ago and they used many of those weapons in thier war against russia (That's why we sent them)


Ground troups will be used. Count on it.
Strategic air strikes will not capture bin laden or break up his group. (Or any other terrorist group.)

I know it's going to take a lot of sacrifice but the die has been cast now.

I know it's hard to believe we would use ground troups but they attacked US this time not vietnam. A week ago it would have been unthinkable. This week it is reality.

Today congress signed a bill with only 1 descenting vote in EITHER HOUSE. This bill authorizes the use of any force needed to fight terrorism (It doesn't say except for ground troops. That isn't an accident either)

It will be a tough war. It's one we have to fight though. We will win it too. Watch and see.

I know what your thinking. Some soldiers come back in body bags and the public gets pissed. Too late. 4000+ people are DEAD. People are ALREADY PISSED. Heads are going to roll. Don't be suprised to see that our government is suddenly willing to do things it wouldn't have only 1 week ago. Everything has changed since then.

(I'm not exactlly an expert but I have been following this. Really what I laid out I think will be very close to what actually happens. I am 100% though that ground troops WILL be used in this action. They will be needed to truely kill terrorism. That's why the will be used.)

[Simon]

Sonic, i really understand the anger. But lets just calm down for a second and look at the situation.

The terrorists are all around the world. Benladin has already left to god knows where according to BBC. So basically by bombering Afganistan , USA will be killing civilians yet again. like it happened in Iraq bombings.

There are over 1.6 billion muslims in this world. They will not tolerate this. Like they do not tolerate terrorism, they do not tolerate killing of innocent people as it was shown on BBC about all of them had moment of silence around the world for those who got killed in NY and washington.

If there are inocent people killed, which 99.99% will be, US is simply asking for more trouble. In reality my openion is there is really no way to get rid of terrorism ones and for all. Sure you can kill Benladin and all his troops but within years there will be more to come and they will be looking for revenge of US killing their people.


So i honestly think, USA should just pull all their works and people out of middle east. Like Britain and Russia and france have and no one seems to bother them. But if you look into the politics deeply, US will not do such a thing in a million years as they are gaining billions and billions from the middle east each year.

So basically lets just pray everything works out in peace. although thats not gonna be very likely but praying doesn't hurt =)

[sonicpuke]

Yes I understand what your saying simon http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

The problem is that it is already too late.

True the moslems of the world may not "tolerate" it WHEN military action starts.

What your understanding is that WE will not tolerate this.

Anyone supporting the terrorists will be given NO consideration in this. Right now the world has a choice. Your either part of the solution (Which IS coming) or your part of the problem. If moslems of the world choose to be part of the problem then while they may not actually get bombed they will find that america and our allies will no longer support them in ANY WAY. (Monetary, military, etc etc)

It's not just anger speaking here. What I described is very likely what will happen. They money and authorization needed for force has already been approved. Unfortuanatly it is reality.

We are not going to just start boming countries. This whole campaign will be an attempt to wipe out as many terrorists groups as possible. If people get mad that's just too bad. WE ARE MAD. Understand that they have now come to OUR COUNTRY and killed our citizens. What is our army FOR if not to protect these citizen. The army will now be used for WHAT IT WAS MEANT FOR. To wage and WIN war.

[Simon]

Yeah I agree.