View Full Version : CEN redirecting?
Dan S
03-18-2001, 08:20 AM
I just noticed that some of my trafficcashgold links are redirecting to
http://www.sexillustrated.com/cgi-bin/click-si.cgi?cenerror
e.g my url is
http://www.amateurgirls.com/cgi-bin/click-AG.cgi?26234
try and click it....
do they have problems?
this definately sucks big time!
as far as I can see only the "old" trafficcash.com style links are affected, while the new links like
http://www.asianpeaches.com/?wm_login=26234
seem to work fine.
Also their stats at trafficcashgold for the whole week say WE`RE SORRY etc.
Any input?
Dan
neocorp
03-18-2001, 10:31 AM
Well, i feel CEN is a bit strange...
With their trafficcasgold, their design and program look really close to ARS... strange..
then their conversion ratio went really bad those days for me, like i got posted on the hun and i promoted cen program on them, over 600 uniques counted by their program (2 nd page click...) i converted 0...
i leave them now, they are lost of money for me
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shane94
03-18-2001, 10:35 AM
My old links still work (=
Shane
Aquaman
03-18-2001, 12:26 PM
Hey Dan.
Try http://www.amateurgirls.com/cgi-bin/click-ag.cgi?26234 instead
big difference between AG and ag. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
richard
03-18-2001, 01:09 PM
you dumbass Dan http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Dan S
03-18-2001, 01:15 PM
Hahaha Richie Rich is around http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
uhm, well, I cut&pasted all urls...........
hmmmm
will try it then ...
Dan
shane94
03-18-2001, 02:37 PM
hehe i hate when i do shit like that LOL
Dan S
03-18-2001, 03:56 PM
Hmm, cant really blame this on me ...
they have the links with Capital Letters ready for cut&paste...
but I am a dumbass anyway http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Dan
richard
03-19-2001, 04:08 AM
thats a rather sneaky move by CEN; giving you the url with a typo an pinching a few extra hits from you before you find out http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif
but yea, still a dumbass Dan http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Dan S
03-19-2001, 04:43 AM
Yep, I am...but what can I do?! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
CowboySurfers.com
03-19-2001, 05:36 AM
My guess, Richard, is .. it's not a sneaky move.
I have been very good friends with both owners of CEN since 1996 .. back when they only had 3 employees.
CEN is a huge operation now with a HUGE, Beautiful new South Florida facility employing over 50 employees.
With 50 fulltime employees, small little mistakes are bound to creep in. It's a function of size more than anything else.
A mistake in copying the new urls is made somewhere in passing the info from person A to person B to person C.
John and JoeE are two standup guys. They're not worried about operating like that.
Dan S
03-19-2001, 05:45 AM
Hi Cowboy,
just to make it clear http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
my last response was regarding to the dumbass part of Rich`s post
Dan
Don't know about CEN but I can tell you that igallery is redirecting all non-US traffic to a dialer. Even if you definitely want to subscribe to any site of them with CC you simply can't if your browser has other than "en" as accepted languages or when you're surfing on an european ISP.
CowboySurfers.com
03-19-2001, 05:56 AM
DanS,
Haha!
.. hope you had a good birthday.
Dan S
03-19-2001, 06:04 AM
I had a nice B-day
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif Thx
Dan
richard
03-19-2001, 06:59 AM
Cowboy, i am a cynic, what can i say?
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CowboySurfers.com
03-19-2001, 08:20 AM
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JoeE a stand up guy? Come on Colin, you are making yourself look bad by saying shit like that.
Shap
CowboySurfers.com
03-19-2001, 01:24 PM
Sorry, Shap .. but ..
I've known JoeE and John since very early 1996, maybe late 1995. When I was first starting in the business and couldn't make my rent JoeE wired me $1000. From 1996-1998, they frequently threw $500-$1000 bonuses into many struggling webmasters checks.
I've visited CEN operations many times and have found them to be of the highest caliber.
They ABSOLUTELY take care of their employees. They bought cars and houses for some of their employees that were there over the past few years. I know of a few driving Porsches.
I travelled to the Adult Film Awards in Cannes, France as well as to Barcelona, Sp. as a guest of CEN's and had the greatest time.
I hold CEN with the highest regard, think they have one of the greatest webmaster programs on the planet and always have.
*I* make myself look bad? On what grounds.
These guys crushed most of their competition because they run a good, respectable, reliable program. Other companies come and go .. other companies go out of business, other companies pay checks late, but CEN pays on time, pays fairly, pays ontime, pays fairly, pays ontime, pays fairly.
If something doesn't convert for you, don't use it .. but if you can't convert CEN, there's something wrong with you.
They've been caught doing really shady shit time and time again. I don't respect that.
Have a nice day
Shap
CowboySurfers.com
03-19-2001, 01:45 PM
Never seen it, never had a problem.
I don't know what specifically you refer to, but there are often two sides to a story.
Like what Shap.. Paying TOOO much to webmasters? Like having reserves when UUNET
shut us down and I still paid PLUS %10?
Others were not smart enough to do these things... A little typo and you fire your gun.... IDIOT! That's why I like gun laws;-)
Bigjb
03-19-2001, 03:01 PM
Guys,
If anyone ever has a problem with CEN or Trafficcashgold all they need to do is email or call us. It is posted all over our sites.'
1-954-563-9008, you can also email joee or myself.. Since we noticed this I now have the programmers fixing asap so it is not case sensitive. It is ridiculous to think we would be that short sighted to steal clicks and stupid for our business model. If you have any questions concerning Conversions, linkcodes, graphics, etc etc please let us know. We are only human and yes we do make some coding errors occasionally. Thanks
Dawgy
03-19-2001, 04:00 PM
i promoted CEN back in the day a bit, then got out of webmastering and into design. i still have my account and plan to promote them heavily now that i'm going back to webmastering.
while i dont know JoeE personally, we met in miami and i do know he throws a hell of a party. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif id work for him any day.
woof.
richard
03-19-2001, 04:49 PM
lol Colin, i love it when big time guys pop up on our little board.
Howdy.
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Dan S
03-19-2001, 04:51 PM
Hmmm, I dont like the way my initial threat took now...
JoeE,
I just cut&pasted the links from somewhere at trafficcashgold.com the other day and just noticed over the weekend that my stats showed a "sorry" message. Than I tried some links I have done the day before and got redirected to the error page.
I thought it could be a cgi problem or an overdosed server.
I went thru your ad tools again today and couldnt find any links with capital letters.
So I do not know why this happened.
Propably my fault.... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif also I didnt check the links right away.
Take it easy everybody
Dan
richard
03-19-2001, 05:06 PM
http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/laugh.gif
http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/laugh.gif
*cough* Dan the *cough* dumbass *cough*
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Hey Jackass I didn't fire my gun. I was talking to Colin. I didn't start this thread.
Shap
shane94
03-19-2001, 06:23 PM
I like cen been with them for over a year (= Great guys! Alwasy answer questions for me (=
Shane
bigdog
03-19-2001, 08:17 PM
cowboysurfers sounds like he works for CEN
The Dawg
03-19-2001, 08:58 PM
I gotta chime in here... I push CEN niche sites and they do well for me. I had some questions about some checks just a couple of weeks ago, and they got back to me the same day. I have 'heard' stories of CEN doing some shady things... but I have never seen it. I have also heard stories about the generosity of JoeE.. .Hell at the New Orleans show he gave me some Dolphins/Jets tickets. He is ok with me http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
JoeE, I still want that deal I talked about with you in NO - hit me with a email @ sales@platinumwebservices.com
The Dawg
kevykev
03-19-2001, 09:02 PM
Question 4 JoeE! I was a biug fan of FreeJoinBucks and plastered your banners everywhere and pushed that program alot.I made good money with that program unlike TrafficCash and shit. For the past 2 damn months I have been told that it is goin to reopen in a couple of weeks and when that time rolls around it's always a "couple more weeks".When in the hell if ever are you guiys going to bring back FreJoinBucks.Please hgive an accurate answer finally.
CowboySurfers.com
03-20-2001, 05:08 AM
BigDog - I don't work for CEN in any way.
You're jumping to false conclusions and being irresponsible in posting them. I've been in this business since 1996, have a good reputation, and know many of the people in the industry. In 1998, my company (Platinum Net) had 14 employees. I believe this is one of the largest all-free adult operations there have been yet (I may be wrong). I then sold my entire operation to one of the top four players in the industry (no, it wasn't CEN). I've only recently came back and am now a one-man show working from the bedroom again , working my own schedule, and having no one to answer to (very nice). http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
Dan,
I don't think anyone took your post wrong.
I know I didn't .. and I doubt anyone else did. It was some of the comments after that I thought needed to be replied to.
See, there have been a lot of fly by night companies come and go. Many of them utilized unsavory business tactics to get where they were going.
I've watched CEN since day one. It is run by "BigJB" and JoeE that posted above. They have a solid company with 50 employees. Yet, they would take the time themselves to post here, give their contact number, etc.
I don't know how many of you have run 50 employee companies, the most I've ever run was 14, and that was extremely taxing time-wise. Imagine having 50 employees and having a system implemented for making sure everyone has something to do, having meetings all day long, acquiring new companies, and the list goes on and on. Yet they took the time to post here. Why? Because they care about their image. They have a solid business model that involves having integrity.
I don't think anyone in this thread meant anything particularly bad (except Shap, who said my comments me look bad - and I take that as a personal affront). I have known these guys since day one and they have benefited the business tremendously. I don't think all of us realize what a debt is owed to companies like CEN, Max Cash, CyberErotica.
Our business prospered, in part, because of their companies. Having reliable fair sponsors is a really big deal. How many of us have sent $1000's (or 100's) of dollars to a sponsor only to have that sponsor disappear, not make a payment, or some other BS. For the past 5 years, because of companies like these, we have a safe place to go.
bigdog
03-20-2001, 07:03 AM
What is CEN explanation for denying credit cards on their sites and sending that traffic to good old maxcash?
xApster
03-20-2001, 10:58 AM
kevykev they said around 3 more months they need
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