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Juggler
05-13-2000, 07:19 PM
HI

Does anyone know Baddog he may have something to do with Sitemogul The reason I am asking I have a great laugh reading the http://www.netpond.com/webmaster/tgpboard/ board which is meant to be for TGP trading but turned into a CJ site bash the main basher seemed to be Baddog if I am not mistaken he used to run CJ site when I started if it is the same person it just makes it a lot more funny I love the CJ bashes they always make me laugh

baddog
05-14-2000, 01:18 AM
sorry juggler, don't know who you think I am but I have been in the biz for more than 4 years and have NEVER run a cj. To be honest, was not even familiar with what a cj was up until a couple months ago.

I am not about to back off any comments I may have made anywhere, but will say that having spent a good amount of time reviewing posts found here, I have to say that there appears to be a good many cj'ers that agree with much of what I have said. I don't think you'll be able to muster much of a crowd against the idea that some internal housekeeping is in order.

Be that as it may, wish I could help but never was associated with a cj in any way shape or form.

Juggler
05-14-2000, 01:30 AM
Sorry Baddog I must be mistaking you with some one else.

Don't take me wrong I also agree with SOME of what you wrote not all of it and I had no intentions of trying to muster a crowd against some form of internal housekeeping. I am 100% behind anything that helps us to clean up the CJ community and help us in the long run.

Sorry for the mistaken Identity my mistake

Rimmer
05-14-2000, 02:09 AM
Juggler there are 2 baddogs on this board:

Baddog 216.200.166.194
10-14-99
Status: Big Jerk
Total Posts: 7
Current Email: baddog888@earthlink.net
Homepage: http://www.spankcity.com
Occupation:
Location: Southern California

bad_dog 24.24.209.8
Date Registered: 05-14-2000
Status: Little Jerk
Total Posts: 1
Current Email: Not available.
Homepage: http://

Hopefully that help you perhaps

baddog
05-14-2000, 02:11 AM
well first off I had to register just to respond to your post. I did notice you have another baddog here, hence the necessity of adding the space in mine. But don't think you'd have any reason to subject him to any scrutiny, and as for me, I can handle it. No harm, no foul.

baddog
05-14-2000, 02:17 AM
coincidence? just when I make my last post, Rimmer has brought up the same info. Strange but true baddog uses earthlink, and bad_dog recently told earthlink to take a long walk on a short plank, and the real clincher, Baddog is located in SoCal, and bad_dog hails from the same SoCal! Dad! Is it you?

Juggler
05-14-2000, 02:19 AM
Thanks Rimmer

It was the Baddog from spankcity I was thinking of

To both Baddog's I hope this post was not taken badly I was just a bit surprised by another post and I had no other intention other than trying to make some sense of it. It was a simple case of mistaken identity on my part.

Thanks agian Rimmer makes a lot more sense now

Ron
05-14-2000, 07:46 PM
HAHA It makes me smile when i read such smug remarks about CJ's.. the one thought that comes to mind is "If only they knew"

These webmaster's who blatently shut down the CJ industry must have brain damage. We are now becomming a very influential group, total hit wise. I mean shit look at the SexTracker page ranks, that's proof enough for me.

Also if people were smart they'd intergrate the CJ script within a real site. I can think of many other uses for UCJ for example, than just screwing my surfers.

But anyways. Thanks for the laugh Bad Dog http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Best Regards, all in fun
Ryan

Ron
05-14-2000, 07:53 PM
i just read down to Binary's post and i had to quote this line, i thought it was perfect.

"First off, a surfer looking for free porn isn't a customer. When he wipes out the credit card is when he becomes a customer"

so until the surfer payed for his pics, fuck em! he/she's a waste of bandwidth. hehe =)

Binary: do you post here? Also do you DJ or some thing? if you do, fat deal i have many Binary LP's.

WETDOG
05-14-2000, 09:08 PM
Well I am Wetdog..
Hehe..

baddog
05-14-2000, 10:37 PM
Ron makes some interesting comments. The one I like best is "if people were smart they'd intergrate the CJ script within a real site." I guess one would surmise that Ron does not consider a CJ a "real" site. I am not prepared to argue that point with him, perhaps a cj'er would.

Next but not least is the ever popular "I can think of many other uses for UCJ for example, than just screwing my surfers." I guess this comment only supports what many feel is wrong with what seems to be the current objective of CJ's. After speaking to Anthony who I feel represents the few respectable CJ'ers out there, the screwing of surfers isn't supposed to be the objective.

I could go on, but have better things to do. One question though, on your suggestion to "look at the SexTracker page ranks" I did. How far down the list do you need to go before you start seeing the CJ's? Beside, if you can't get big numbers with a CJ you are obviously doing something wrong.

Glad I was able to provide a laugh to you, that stand up comedy class at the community college must be finally paying off.

Juggler
05-14-2000, 10:47 PM
Ron

To a certain agree but there is still a bit of a problem Baddogs views IMHO are miss guided but he does make some good points and not only that but sadly his views are shared by a lot of webmasters who run none CJ sites that makes it harder to set up trades with none CJ sites which is a shame because if the trades are set up right they are benificial to everyone.

I totally agree it does make me laugh when I read these comments on CJ webmasters but it also really made me think. I am planning a new CJ site and it will 100% console free and it will be good to see some more around a good note I am noticing nore and more console free CJ sites popping up who knows maybe we can clean up are reputation a bit.

baddog
05-14-2000, 11:28 PM
Juggler's comments give me hope that possibly my writings will serve their purpose, and that I may one day be known as The Messiah bringing truth and acceptance to those once known as circle jerks, and cj will stand for creative jobbers or something positive like that.

Juggler however gives me to much credit as I espoused none of my own ideas, but only quoted the true genius here, Ron. I am but a disciple spreading his word to the masses. Thank you Juggler but I can't accept the credit.

Juggler
05-14-2000, 11:34 PM
Baddog don't worry no credit was given trust me http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Rimmer
05-15-2000, 12:40 AM
http://dailyteen.net is my Real TGP that runs UCJ-C for traffic trades. It ranges anywhere from 60k to 80k uniques a day. There are also at least 2 other sites with Real Content in the Sex Tracker Top 100 that also run UCJ-C for their traffic trades.

Ron
05-15-2000, 01:28 AM
to whome it may concern: I do consider a CJ to be a real site. There is HTML there are thumb pics, links, so it is a site. I was just saying that i personally feel that integrating the script into a different site model might be benificial. It might not be on the same note, it has just been a thought in the back of my head for some time.

Also, my last post had some emotion in it, after reading some comments about the CJ. I was supprised, but at the same time in total agreeance.

Everyone who has been jerking for some time knows that changes are needed, but these things take time. This is a relitivly new industry (correct me if i am wrong) so i'd expect new methods of jerking to evolve over time.

BadDog: As juggler stated above, he himself is looking to set up a more CLEAN design. If you are to say that this EXACT topic has never been discussed on this board. Than you are painfully wrong, many long drawn out post's have come and gone over the months. I also never said your points/views were un-accurate. I just see your view as very smug, and un-educated (about the CJ topic). I have NEVER even considered more than 2 popup's to be good, how the hell can it be? In terms of Traffic quality.

For my own thought track, say a CJ webmaster approtched you for a trade, you check his site. You see a number of thumbs that work, as well as when you click a link real sites with real content come up. Would you still NOT trade witht his/her site?

The problem with not having content also stems from the fact that sites with content refuse to trade with us. What would be kewl i think, is if sites with real content swaped traffic with us. CJ's are more advanced Topsites in my mind, except ATM we don't have much content.
(ih ope that made some sence)

too late to be typing
(sorry for any spelling error's http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)
Ryan - Ron

Ron
05-15-2000, 01:31 AM
Oh i forgot: BadDog, you can't honestly be serious when you say you can't find the CJ's on SexTracker?

If you are, what crack are you on? It must be good. some are close to invading the top10 bud!

I mean no harm, knowledge is power =)

PaulC
10-24-2001, 04:06 PM
Originally posted by bad_dog:
<STRONG>and that I may one day be known as The Messiah bringing truth and acceptance to those once known as circle jerks, and cj will stand for creative jobbers or something positive like that.</STRONG>
Wow you post a lot of shite bad_dog!

Rod
10-24-2001, 04:16 PM
Ron: He just dunno what's the difference between an AVS and a CJ...That's why he said that :)

ahah...joking

Personnally, I don't agree this baddog is there since 4 years....hell, it,s not possible to not know what a CJ is if you're in the adult business for 4 years...

PaulC
10-24-2001, 04:17 PM
But I have so much respect for him!!!

Don't shatter my thoughts of him!

Rod
10-24-2001, 04:17 PM
for me, baddog = a lying ass that can talk and "use" a computer...

It's only good for the circus :D

LOL