Dialer Companies which pay Flat Rate ?

[Dialer Dealer]

Hey,

are there any other big dialer companies like GIB which pay resellers by flat rate ?

I'm not looking for a dialer company which is already a reseller...I'm only interested in those which are on top of all others like telco, GIB and so on.

Regards Andreas

[candidpublishinginc]

We're about to launch our dialer network in a few days.

Perhaps we can work out a flat rate deal for you so you can pay your webmasters, but we still feel that per country is the most fair for webmasters and resellers.

ICQ me at 85500178

[Zern]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
we still feel that per country is the most fair for webmasters and resellers.

ICQ me at 85500178</font>

I agree...

I never have really understood why even serious webmasters like flat rate dialers..

Don´t people analyze their trafficsources at all?

I have always asked for country spesific rates and I think have made more money with country spesific rates than using flat rate dialers

[richard]

In theory, per country is the best way to do things - you get paid a fair price for the minutes you generate.

Its the same as a per click sponsor - why would you use per click when you could use per signup? (i know its different, but same idea).

Maybe flat rate is seen as more reliable? I had a guy who i was paying a flat rate, and was losing me money. We moved him onto a per country, and he ended up earning more money (his flat rate worked out much higher) as he got less shitty minutes, and more from the big countries.

[Dialer Dealer]

I will leave my webmasters the choice to decide what is better for them...thats why I'm searching for a flat rate dialer as alternative to my telco dialer...

so there is no flat rate dialer except GIB ? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

[richard]

If you are paid per country by Telcoweb, then you can still offer flat rate to your webmasters.

You have to make sure you balance your figures though.

[Dialer Dealer]

yup...and because i want to be on the safe site i search another company paying ME by flat !

[Groovy]

as far as i know there is no other then gib...

[richard]

there is no such thing as a safe side, if you dont make GIB money, they wont pay you flat rates.

[Dialer Dealer]

It will surely be more profitable for me then using telco for flat rate.

[mr man]

dialer dealer, I think your a little confused as far as I know there are no direct dialer companies that offer flat rate, all the dialer webmaster programs out there, through resellers are the only ones who offer flat rates for all countries, and if you look closely at them, you need to get a certain percentage of your minutes from the major countries to even qualify for that flat rate. If you don't, they won't pay you the flat rate on the low paying countries. GIB does not offer paying webmasters direct a flat rate option. vip dialer is a reseller for gib, they offer flat rate, but you are not going direct with the dialer company by using them, they are still a middle man. gib pays vip who in turn pays you, same with any other reseller for any dialer company. Like Candid just told you, his system will be a direct system, so you could try and cut a deal with him for flat rate, or you could approach all the other direct dialer companies and try and make deals with them as well.

In the end though, if most of your minutes come from the big countries, your much better of getting paid a different rate per country. Do the math with your minutes right now and you'll see. Hope this helps!

[basschick]

doesn't dialerking pay flat rate per minute? he is known to pay...

[playa]

flat rate dialers will get you burn when your a reseller,,,
lets be real you think someone will pay you .35 flat if 90% of your calls come from high risk countries...

per country is the fairest way to go,,
i think you make more money like that anyways

[Tann]

i agree, per country is definitely more profitable for both webmasters and resellers... unless you're a webmaster from a country like Turkey or Russia and get traffic from your country also http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
The programs that offer flat rate usually offer "flat-rate" for top countries anyways, so 95% of webmasters definitely get paid more with per-country rates.

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[candidpublishinginc]

Playa,

What do you mean by "high risk country"? Are you talking about countries like Turkey?

For your information, the only reason many of the dialer networks are paying 2 cents a minute on countries like Turkey is because they're either using a generic cellular route like UK Mobile or they are just keeping most of the money themselves.

Our dialer will be using a premium international route to Turkey so even if 90% of our minutes are to Turkey, it's a moot point.

The only high risk country out there is the U.S. because paying your 900 number bill here is optional and chargebacks are like 60%.

[playa]

candid,,i am speaking as far as the major current dialer companies ie,,telco web and GIB,,,
there are alot of countries that pay out only .02 cents(high risk)

as you can see paying .35 flat for a .02 country will not be profitable,,,sure you can hope that you get alot of more profitable countries to balance the numbers but it is still a gamble,,

this is why you might hear webmaster's being shaved or resellers just flat out saying they won't pay for those countries,,,

best of luck to your new dialer http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Dialer Dealer]

@ mr man

I think you are a bit confused.... Sam from GIB has offered me a flat rate payout although i would be starting with 0 minutes.

GIB hasnt responded up to today because there server buildung was 2 blocks away from WTC.

[richard]

Candid, i think playa defines "high-risk" as those countries that could mess up a flat rate dialer's flat rate, not in terms of uncollectables (although some countries might be?).

Flat rate is more profitable, unless you are someone who has lost of 2c countries - in which case you are unlikely to be paid the full rate by the flat rate dialer.

[candidpublishinginc]

Playa,

I see what you mean by high risk. (It's a high risk for the reseller.)

However just keep in mind those routes don't use premium international, but rather a "catch all" cellular route.

UK Mobile is an example of one of these routes. I must say though. It is a very nice route overall, and it is very cheap for the consumer. (Around 30 cents a minute I believe, and people say dialers are a rip off.)

I can see a lot of non adult uses of the UK mobile route, for countries where drop charge can't be done. (Software downloads, etc)