I HAVE SOMETHING TO FUCKING SAY

[TheDoc]

First off before I start this message is
going to cause some massive fucking heat.

For you guys that know me you know I don't
fuck around and im 100% business and normally
very laid back about stuff. So newer guys
now you know.

Here in the last week I have probally posted
more on this board than ever, even coming
back every day or two to read up on it and
doing so I have seem 1 person that has backed
someone that shouldnt be back and slammed other for just simple questions or comments.

So lets start back.

SMITY
WTF dude, its your turn.

A few posts down you slam some guy for his
domains, and he trys to slam back but you
come back saying you own eroticvillage.com
which you sorry fuck you stole from me.
- FACT I HAVE THE CHAT RECORD STILL
One day in chat with a group of friends I
said fuck im going to register eroticvillage
(was going to use as a free host) I went
to network solutions, and typed in the info
but didnt type in the network stuff cause
I wanted it on a differnet host (which was
open) I called my new host got the info went
back and found out your registered it before
I did. So I got .net and made my free host.

First off that is fucked even though I never
said anything to you but a few guys in the
room knew what you did and agreed it was fucked. Cause a few days later you came back
and said damn I picked up this kick ass
domain eroticvillage.com.

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Next thing, I have seen you slam cheaters
over and over and over again. But then james
cheat and you defend him, I dont think its
cause its james, but probally cause you have
cheated (the cj world) in the past. Which
I know for a FACT - well before this board
was ever open. Everyone is probally asking
what you did, well let me tell them.
At midnight, with the scorpion script I belive you would redirect ALL traffic to
a top site to grab the #1 spot, when I said
something to you, you said you did it so your
CJ site could feed everyone for the rest of
the day.

Now, that is a small cheat, but yet you steal
1 hour of traffic from all webmasters of
cj sites and that is still cheating.

Ofcourse I just removed your ass and went
on my way.

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Reason I posted this is like I said you
always call people lamers, loosers, fags, and so on within this board, and then you
come back and say your playing, which is
a load of shit. If you dont have the respect
to treat people right then don't visit the
board.

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And before you try to slam my ass let me
set your ass staight. If it wasnt for
myself, shap, and couple others you wouldnt
have your damn CJ world you would stil be
sucking warez sites out your ass and ripping
domain ideas from people in chat rooms.

And just incase you think im some little
jerk with a big jerk on my name as you told
someone else. I am 'the big jerk' 100% ass
wipe, I have had the largest cj site bar-none, now im working on other things, such
as many paysites with a very large amount
of members, tgp's, still a cj site, with
a few other things and domain names that
would make you cum.

Every domain no mater what it is, is worth
money if the time and effort is put into it.
But the .com you got was fed from .net and
used to be a warez site, wonder if your
so called buyers would like to know that,
I still have a screen shot of the site leading to liquid warez or some crap like that.

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TheDoc

[demoman]

TheDoc, Why do you care wether we think you're a REAL big jerk, or a little jerk with BIG jerk on your name?

[xApster]

What does that have to do with anything demoman?

[QUOTE]WOW! Did you guys see that!
I posted this message and checked if it was added and you know what i saw!
I saw the magic words BIG JERK just in front of my name! thank you guys! you are too good for this world [QUOTE/]

You seem to care...

[xApster]

Originally posted by xApster:
What does that have to do with anything demoman?

WOW! Did you guys see that!
I posted this message and checked if it was added and you know what i saw!
I saw the magic words BIG JERK just in front of my name! thank you guys! you are too good for this world

You seem to care...

[demoman]

it's nice to see it on your name for the first time xApster, but i don't think it makes any difference.

"He's da man, so I will never be against his opinion, and he's right!. Sorry but I have my own opinion and when I think someone is not right, i say it.

PS I think TheDoc is right

[TheDoc]

I was just saying, I personally wasnt
saying that I am the jerk of jerks but admit
I can be http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I was saying to Smitty and the comments was
to Smitty for the reasons to what he has
said to others that have posted within
this site.

Smitty time and time again has said stuff
about cheaters, the big jerk, your a little
jerk and dont know anything, and many other
comments to all kinds of small and large
webmaters.

I just wanted to put what I saw and what
I know out in the open. The comments about
myself on the big jerk thing wasnt suppost
to be to make myself look larger just put
smitty in his place.

To me, the big jerks in the business are
guys like him that help give everyone on
this board a bad name for the way he acts.

I related myself as a big jerk yes but
I posted "I am 'the big jerk' 100% ass
wipe" I wasnt saying I am 'the big jerk'
as in the CJ world but as in this post
the adult world and so on, I was being
sarcastic.

TheDoc

[Dje]

Hi Doc,
just wanted to let you know, before smitty does in an aggresive way http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif, that the use of scorpion to force hits to a top list in an hour is not really considered cheating, unless the toplist webmaster sees a problem into that. Just wanted to make sure you were aware of that before smitty tells you that you don't know anything just based on that point.
BTW, congratulations for your many other projects. Which cj do you run? I know shap but I can't seem to remember who you are, although I am sure I've seen your sites many times in the past http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anyway, have a nice day all you cj'ers.
Dje
freepicturesgallery.com

[TheDoc]

I run wetsmut.com http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

No, I dont think it was cheating the TopSite
at all, im sure the topsite loved it.

But when he redirected ALL incomming traffic
from his CJ site to the TopSite for an
hour each nite that is cheating. It is
taking away tracked clicks from the
webmasters. So if I sent him 500 hits
from 12am-1am the 500 hits was lost.

TheDoc

[Dje]

Well, not really. If he does reset his script right after the one hour of forcing, then you lose your hits, but if he does not, he still has a debt to you in his script and will send back more after to compensate. If he's got enough traffic, he should be able to do so. But anyway, it doesn't really matter. What's important in the end is if you see enough hits back from him as you would like http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
Nice to see you on this board Doc, it's been a long time I heard about you... BTW, I see we're not trading anymore, interested in getting it back alive http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif Hit me up on icq if you want to...

Dje
freepicturesgallery.com
15576399

[Ron]

Doc: i agree with many of your points. A guy can't expect to plow through every webmaster and expect to come out on top. The way Smitty treats people is with no respect, so why should I or anyone else respect him?

I don't really want to be involved with this disscussion cause it is very emotional. But smitty has been this way for years, it's not some thing he picked up along the way.

I remember calling him one day and he flipped out, he claimed to be able to get my phone # banned from calling his house. HAHA i had a good laugh over that one http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Well anyways, Peace Doc.
Nice to see some one speaking out http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Cali]

Seems to me that this smitty has been an above average asshole for a long time and I wasn't the only one he picked on... Hmm, makes you wonder...

[Smitty]

TheDoc is wrong:

1. TheDoc I don't believe you have any chat buffer saved, as I don't believe there ever was a chat.

2. That's funny how you say you went and saw that eroticvillage.com had just been taken so you got eroticvillage.net, because if you looked closely enough you would see that eroticvillage.net was registered the day before eroticvillage.com. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

3. I never thought eroticvillage.com was good enough to brag about owning it... Until about six months ago when I started researching more on .com domain names. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

4. The way it really happened was you sent me an ICQ message, by mistake, saying how you were going to start an adult freehost at eroticvillage.net. I did not know who you were or why you sent me this message. I went and saw that .net was taken, like you said in the ICQ message it was, but .com was available. I registered it then. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

5. I never stole 1 hour of traffic from anybody. I would reset my script a couple of hours before sending to a toplist and let it go on as normal for a couple of hours. Then I would kill a toplist with one hours worth of traffic, take #1, and pay back all of my trades with that highly-productive traffic for the rest of the day. Nobody was ever screwed out of one single hit. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

6. I highly doubt that if it weren't for you there wouldn't be CJ sites. I originated big warez sites on the Internet, yet I would hardly ever say that if it weren't for me there would be no big warez sites. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

7. I wish I still owned the #1 warez site, another $20k a month added on to my income would be great. Warez traffic is so awesome, XPICS Publishing used to love my traffic http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

8. I have never ripped any domain ideas from anybody in any chat rooms. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

9. Domains that would make me cum, eh? Lets here 'em. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

10. I'm sure my buyers would love to see the screenshot! Warez traffic is so good. I never had XPICS, BABENET, IMPULSE COMM, CE, GAMMA, or any other sponsors ever complain. My sign ratios were through the roof. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

11. TheDoc, you never sent 500 hits to any of my sites between 12:00 and 1:00 AM. If you had, they would have been promply returned. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

12. TheDoc, I have never had a problem with you, and I thought you hadn't ever had a problem with me. Lets keep it that way, don't post any more messages here.

Take Care,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[TheDoc]

ha ha ha

Eroticvillage.net reged 1 day before
Eroticvillage.com is PERFECT. OLD internic
sure was a buggy bastard. Reg the domain,
reply to e-mail and it could take up to 48
hours for the reg to go through, so that
probally means I went to reg .com and .net
at the same time you got .com right before
I did. You sent the e-mail back before I did
but internic didnt process you till after
midnight, but showed that you sent the
e-mail first so I got the kick back on it.

Simple enough - And myself sending you an
ICQ message saying I was starting a freehost
is a load of crap - In my above post I said
I was going to make it a free host, but
the domains was reged in nov of 98 and
I didnt build the free host till Jan of 98
cause at the time I got the domain I wasnt
going to start a free host, but a paysite
to kick off my massive freehost sexvillage.
Now I know for a fact I told Andy from
SexTracker this, cause when I didnt make
eroticvillage a paysite and made it a freehost shortly after I sold the domain
along with sexvillage to a different company the new owners of eroticvillage fucked myself
and sextracker over by not paying us. So
I handed the domain over to sextracker to try
and make back some of there loss.

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And no I didnt say if it wasnt for me there
wouldnt be any CJ sites, but the FACT being
that Myself, Shap, and 2 others got the idea
kicking, and started back Jan of 99. Now
there was sites and always have been sites
that traded links, and some guy had a script
site that worked on a in out bases. Which
sparked my idea for LinkX - Which Progod from
porntrack programed. (rather his programers)
- So yes, I guess you can say that I help
start the CJ world along with a few friends.

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I can say that I have seen warez sites with
adult banners. And personally if that is
what the sponsor wants to do then fine.
Then again, I know a few different guys that
had warez sites and I know they did well with
porn sponsors. And why shouldnt they, most
warez sites have porn on them, which kinda
makes them a warez/porn site.

But then again, the porn sites say no
warez, so who is at fault for braking the
rules, the webmaster? or the sponsor?
Both?

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I honestly cant remember if my site has
ever traded 500 hits in one hour with you
but I was just staying that. But then again
even if the person got the traffic back
after the fact, then great, but what about...

Your domain XXXVIVO.com, I bet I can ICQ
my buddies at pinkteens, adult orgigin,
and hell even clickhereporn.com and
everyone of them will say you have used a
hitbot. Its magic how I know this, If im correct your domain is
BLACKLISTED on no cheat.

Smitty, I havent ever really had a problem
with anyone. Other than a few guys like
world sex, and so on. But when you slam
new guys, even old guys, and smart off to
people, protect cheaters, and so on you
create problems. I look at all these webmaters as some kind of friend, the older
webmasters that I have talked on the phone
with, and even met before I consider good
net friends, and when you slam even the
newbie webmaster I take it that you are
slamming me, cause I used to be the one
posting messages asking questions.

What do you think my domain is worth?
Is this a good domain?
How do I register a domain?

I know for a fact I asked this one,
Holy shit, im getting 350,000 uniques a day
how in god do I make money on my free host.
That was Oct 1998 SexVillage
A webmaster helped that owned SexTracker

Also asked a little persiankitty back in the
day if she would trade multi links with me
to help my site grow post 100 hits a day.
Sept 1997 CyberErections

So all of us at once point didnt have a clue
what we was doing, so no need to slam the
others on this board no mater how dumb
the question might sound

btw, hotmial.com

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TheDoc

[Smitty]

The old InterNIC was full of bugs? Umm... Nope. I specifically remember seeing the .net taken so that is why I registered .com. You are making a fool of yourself by saying that it was the email reply time that changed the dates. They posted the dates back then when a domain was first registered, not when the email reply was sent in.

You did send me that ICQ, I remember it clearly... It confused me since I had no idea who you were at the time.

The adult sponsors all say 'no warez sites allowed' in their terms and conditions for legal reasons only. That's why they also say no spams, etc... However, if you are generating signups, they do not care how you are doing it. The only exception is CP, which nobody tolerates, even if you send 1:10.

XXXVIVO.com is on nocheat, that is 100% correct. And it is also correct that I own that domain, and I always have owned that domain. I ran a site there last summer for a few months, a site that was going after adult toplists. I was generating over $500 a day with babenet just from that site, sending to celebrityx. Some days even closer to a grand. Here's why I am on nocheat.com. I owned the #1 largest warez site in the world at the time. I was on many popup topsite listings, as most warez sites were. The guy who was the #2 warez site was cheating one of these console topsites, via img src. He was #1 with his cheat. The owner of that console toplist wanted to wait until the cheater came back from vacation to make him remove the img src. It was clear that this guy was sending a lot of real hits, he was easily #2 without the img src. I was very upset about this, so the webmaster told me that I could img src to take back #1 until this guy got back home. I put up the img src on xxxvivo.com's exit console. It was an img src directly to this warez console toplist, and I was told by the owner of this toplist that I could do this. He told me to do it. Sam posted me on nocheat, which got me deleted from many adult toplists, none of which were Adult Origin or Clickhereporn. I have played AO on several occasions during that time and since that time, never having any problems over there, and always loving the return. Same goes for Clickhereporn. I am on CHP now as a matter of fact.

As far as you saying I used a hitbot on the adult toplists, that is the biggest load of crap. Were hitbots even around last summer? I wouldn't know. I have never used a hitbot, never seen a hitbot, and I don't know even the slightest thing about them. And, TheDoc, it was very immature of you to accuse me of using one on those toplists.

A few toplist owners were wondering how I got so high on their lists so fast, they definitely questioned me about it. I told them that I was exiting xxxvivo.com from my warez site, which I was, and it was sending me 40k+ a day in exits, which it was. That is why I was doing so well on the toplists. I wasn't #1 on them, except some lucky nights at reset, but I was usually in the top 10 on Pinktoys, Clickhereporn, Adultorigin and Teenfactory.

I'll be nicer to the new guys, I have been as of late getting better. I just remember how I had to learn everything for myself a few years back, there wasn't anybody there holding my hand, teaching me the ways of the Internet. I feel that the new guys should do the same thing. They shouldn't ask so many questions, they should just go figure it out for themselves like I had to, and I'm sure most other older webmasters had to as well.

As far as hotmial.com, how many type-ins a day does it receive? I am curious to know... That sounds like it might do very well. I wish I had gotten hotmale.com a few years back, I'm sure that gets 20k+ type-ins a day.

Take Care,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[Smitty]

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