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Thor
05-24-2001, 01:21 AM
Whats the catch here ? how can they pay 0,75 $ pr minute, when everybody else pays 0,35 to 0,45 $ pr minute, has anybody used them, then please share your experince

PornoWill
05-24-2001, 01:37 AM
I'm sure it's just bullshit like the other sponsor programs they have.

PornoWill
05-24-2001, 02:56 AM
Check out USADialer,
http://www.usadialers.com/s.cgi?index-14 http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

bode
05-24-2001, 10:32 AM
PornoWill,

It is not bullshit. Why don't you go piss somewhere else. You've never even tried our program out. Try it before you make a decision to bash it.

We pay 75 cents for US and UK. We pay very high rates for many other countries as well. Many webmasters have increased thier earnings by quite a bit by just giving it a test for a few days. We have a new dialer solution. Possibly you are running a competitive product, and therefore feel the need to knock my program. We pay every 2 weeks, which is as competitive as it gets. In a few weeks you'll see an announcement of some new higher rates. Also, we are working towards weekly payouts.

If you can do better elsewhere after your test then you can talk. Otherwise, for the rest of us here "Keep your mouth shut until you've tried it."

We didn't spend months building our program because we wanted to build an inferior product. That isn't our style. We feel it is by far the best dialer sponsor around, and it also performs better than most regular sponsors. Over half the advertising on all our sites is now sent to this system, because nothing else can even come close to making the same type of value per click.

Thanks,


Bode
Shawn Boday
http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters
SexTracker.com

PornoWill
05-24-2001, 03:49 PM
Sure thing Bode... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

BTW I LOVE your CPM ad... (Moneytree) http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif

Andreas
05-25-2001, 07:06 PM
@ PornoWill

You wont believe it, but there are really some few fair and reliable dialer companies out there who try to satisfy their customers instead of taking all money for themselves.

I dont hesitate to say that Bode's and my Dialer program belong to this vanishing minority.

We pay 0,55$ to all top countries...
You will definetely make more money with us than with most of the other companies since we do NOT shave a single minute !!!
you will be paid for all minutes you make every time on time.
no stats shaving or shit like that...

The Dawg
05-25-2001, 07:09 PM
Mr. Sextracker... .I noticed your dialer page has 'Free' all over it, Is that legal?

I thought some other companies got in trouble for using the word 'Free'


The Dawg

bode
05-25-2001, 11:04 PM
The Dawg,

You must be referring to one of our international dialer pages. We have our own dialer solution, and we have not received any complaints about our international dialer pages. We have quite a few different pages depending on the country and language the surfer has.

We don't have a rule against webmasters stating that the file download is free. We fully disclose the terms on the dialer executable. The terms clearly state that the phone call will be charged to thier phone bill. This is not very strange for a large number of foreign countries, since they pay per minute just to be connected to the internet.

We do 1000's of calls every day, and have not received a complaint from the phone company about our solution.

Have you tested our solution?

It acheives the highest yeild of any solution. I would recommend webmasters use at least 2 solutions. I beleive a lot of dialer companies will start to lose certain termination destinations. I am confident we will retain all of ours. Our rates are going to continue increasing. Look for news coming on June 1 about increased rates.

http://wm.mtree.com/webmasters

Bode

Enchantress
05-25-2001, 11:45 PM
I'm confused, I signed up with moneytree a few days ago. I checked my stats today and I have over 800 clicks, 2 calls, and no minutes. I don't see how I can have calls and no minutes. Maybe I just don't have enough experience with the whole dialer thing but it seems a little sucky to me.

Enchantress

bode
05-26-2001, 01:22 AM
Enchantress,

Do you have ICQ? If so, add me on your list. I am sure I can help you make it work. My ICQ is 116334105.

Otherwise, send me an email with info about your site, and I can help via email.

Thanks,


Bode

PornoWill
05-26-2001, 02:12 AM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bode:
Enchantress,

Do you have ICQ? If so, add me on your list. I am sure I can help you make it work. My ICQ is 116334105.

Otherwise, send me an email with info about your site, and I can help via email.

Thanks,


Bode</font>

Bode, why are you so anxious to take the call/no minute discussion in private? I think this should be discussed openly, so other webmasters can see what you are up to.

snow
05-26-2001, 02:27 AM
Someone here needs to talk to snow...

snow@vipdialer.com

Enchantress
05-26-2001, 03:26 AM
I have to say in fairness to bode, he got in contact with me and went out of his way to give me helpful advice. I will let everyone knows how it goes.


Enchantress

bode
05-26-2001, 12:21 PM
Pornowill,

It's much easier to help someone via ICQ. Messages are real time. I prefer it over posting on boards. It's also much more personal. I like to know the people I am doing business with. I've been in this business for almost 5 years now. I'm not interested in a quick buck.

How many other big companies do you deal with where the owners work directly with the customers? I enjoy working with people. It helps me learn new things. It helps everyone maximize thier money.

Anyone else that would like to test our solution is welcome to ICQ me as well.

Thanks,

Bode

PornoWill
05-26-2001, 01:02 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bode:
Pornowill,

It's much easier to help someone via ICQ. Messages are real time. I prefer it over posting on boards. It's also much more personal. I like to know the people I am doing business with. I've been in this business for almost 5 years now. I'm not interested in a quick buck.

How many other big companies do you deal with where the owners work directly with the customers? I enjoy working with people. It helps me learn new things. It helps everyone maximize thier money.

Anyone else that would like to test our solution is welcome to ICQ me as well.

Thanks,

Bode</font>

Sure thing, do what you want. Do you have an explanation for the calls but no minutes situation?

daveknell
05-26-2001, 01:14 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bode:
It acheives the highest yeild of any solution. I would recommend webmasters use at least 2 solutions. I beleive a lot of dialer companies will start to lose certain termination destinations. I am confident we will retain all of ours. Our rates are going to continue increasing. Look for news coming on June 1 about increased rates.
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Bode: I'd be interested to see substantiation of your claim that your dialler solution "achieves the highest yield of any" - I don't think you've tested ours, so I don't think you're in a position to make that claim. Let me know if you'd like to, and I'll hook you up ;-)

I'm also curious to know which of our terminations we'll be losing: we keep opening new ones, and I don't see any signs of flakiness in the current lot..

Cheers --

Dave

bode
05-26-2001, 01:27 PM
Dave,

It's possible I haven't.

What backend do you use?

I have no problem running a traffic comparison.


Bode

bode
05-26-2001, 01:34 PM
PornoWill,

We utilize a 900 access solution in the US. We state clearly in our terms that the surfer has a time window where we allow them to connect for free.

If a call comes across as 0 minutes, it means they dialed in, but did not stay on past the time window. Very similar to how paysites allow a free membership to increase thier signups. We allow a free time period to increase the number of people that will dial in. This is within the current FTC guidelines for phone billing with US customers.

Thanks,


Bode

Enchantress
05-26-2001, 08:15 PM
So it's kind of like those psychic hot lines that say "Free consultation with Miss Cleo." but if you look at the fine print it says you won't be charged for the first ten minutes, then after that it's like 10 bucks a second http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif I imagine that works pretty well as an incentive.

Enchantress

passnerd
05-27-2001, 07:36 PM
Can i advertise this? I mean could i say
something like:
FIRST 10 MINUTES FREE!

Cya,
Passnerd

bode
05-28-2001, 01:03 AM
Passnerd,

I think that is a great idea. I would recommend saying first 2 minutes free though.


Bode