paysite design

[demoman]

I'm looking for someone / a company for designing 2 new paysites, amsterdam-x.com and hollywood-x.com.

For eacht site I need: A frontpage, 5-page tour, onmouseovers, webmasters page, 6 banners and members section layout.

Please contact me via ICQ (my new UIN is 73169472) is you can do that, or know somebody.

[Rimmer]

This guy is good http://www.wyldesites.com and has done work for a lot of the big sites.

[baddogkeith]

Try Nico at: http://www.redhotdesign.com/
He did a couple of my paysites:
genitalhospital.com
and
asianude.com

[STEVEN]

Check out CROW over at http://www.xxxtremedesigns.com/

He has done a lot of big sites, and he does kick ass Flash, as well

[Smitty]

Demoman:

genitalhospital.com and asianude.com are about the two ugliest paysite designs I have ever seen. Stay away from that retard.

You absolutely 100% do not want any flash on any of the pages at your paysite, don't even consider it an option.

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[baddogkeith]

Shmitty,

Just when I was starting to feel sorry for your dweeby little ass, you go and insult the design of my paysites. Stating that, (they) "are about the two ugliest paysite designs I have ever seen."

When others prompted me to pull the covers on your lying, cheating, stealing warez little ass, I said no, he's just an immature bigmouth, and is probably not cheating anymore.

I don't really care what you think of redhotdesign, but an overstatement like you made sounds like you have a hidden agenda.

"ugliest paysite designs I have ever seen?"
Do you wipe your mouth with toilet paper after you speak?

Just for backround for anyone who thinks they know Shmitty, take a look at the sites. See if you believe he speaks the truth when he says those are the ugliest sites HE HAS EVER SEEN!

If you think he is talking shit, then you know the real Shmitty. If he's talking..., he's probably lying, exagerating or badmouthing.

[demoman]

it's Smitty...

[Smitty]

Keith, is that you?

I never asked you to feel sorry for me, that is one thing that is the truth. You are the one who has always had a vengence against me because I passed your sites on the adult toplists last summer, and that really upset you. You couldn't believe that somebody had more knowledge and traffic than you.

I don't think you need to accuse people of cheating just because they were/are more successful then you. If I joined clickhereporn right now I could probably get and keep #3 - #5 all day. I would never accuse the guys ahead of me of cheating just because I didn't have the hits to pass them.

Those two sites that were listed above, asianude and genitalhospital, have Photoshop + Eyecandy written all over them. In order for a paysite design to stand out amongst the rest, another web desinger needs to go to that site and say to himself/herself, "Wow, how did he do that graphic?!" I mean, on asianude, what the hell are those fat ugly red text images with the Eyecandy 'glow' plugin ran on them? Very ugly.

Keith, get over your immature accusations. Anthony got past your crap, now why can't you? He had told me that you had come around and weren't upset anymore... Then I went ahead and made fun of two ugly paysites you designed. That shouldn't make you upset. If I designed an ugly paysite, and you told me it was ugly, I would say thanks for input. I wasn't trying to be mean, disrespectful, or childish. Those two sites are just flat ugly, plain and simple.

Take Care Keith,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[run]

no matter how ugly these sites are, there are other ways to say it, smitty.

$0.02

[Avatar]

Actually I think Smitty is right. If you compare those two sites with CE. Where do you think surfers would signup?

But there are ways to say it in a nicer way http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[baddogkeith]

Smitty,

Lots of people pass me on toplists. It is NOT because you passed me on a toplist that I don't trust you.

The reason is, that you were were using IMG SRC CHEATS on other toplists to enhance your standing, and stealing banners from those you were cheating. Even after I offered you a choice of my banners to use, you chose to steal another players banner instead, and he was playing the same list. You persisted in using img src tags on: xxxvivo.com/britany.html
even after you were caught.

I like your quote:

"I don't think you need to accuse people of cheating just because they were"

(think that says it all even though it is only a partial quote)

I was unaware Anthony had any crap to get over, maybe you speak for him? or are you just trying create the illusion of credibility by throwing his good name in the mix?

[sonicpuke]

Not gonna get into this argument

But I as always am available for site design if the price is right.
I program Perl, JavaScript, HTML, Graphics etc
http://www.teencanada.com/ Here is a paysite I desgined for myself though it is not in operation right now. (Big problems with this site went on and on due to the people I had associated myself with in this venture. Content, hosting, even internic were problems, again because of who I had been dealing with.)
I don't want to go on and on about why I shut this site down. Just suffice it to say that I am working on more profitable site right now.

This site is for sale if someone has a decent offer.
I can also do any kind of design work needed.

I'm not cheap though. I normally charge $50/hour. Though I can work out a flat rate also.

sonic
ICQ 24513624
hhhytg@earthlink.net

[Smitty]

Keith,

Good partial quote you pulled from my post above, very creative. You should take some web design courses at the local college. With that kind of creativity you could go places.

Here is the story behind that img src that I had posted in a previous message:

XXXVIVO.com is on nocheat, that is 100% correct. And it is also correct that I own that domain, and I always have owned that domain. I ran a site there last summer for a few months, a site that was going after adult toplists. I was generating over $500 a day with babenet just from that site, sending to celebrityx. Some days even closer to a grand. Here's why I am on nocheat.com. I owned the #1 largest warez site in the world at the time. I was on many popup topsite listings, as most warez sites were. The guy who was the #2 warez site was cheating one of these console topsites, via img src. He was #1 with his cheat. The owner of that console toplist wanted to wait until the cheater came back from vacation to make him remove the img src. It was clear that this guy was sending a lot of real hits, he was easily #2 without the img src. I was very upset about this, so the webmaster told me that I could img src to take back #1 until this guy got back home. I put up the img src on xxxvivo.com's exit console. It was an img src directly to this warez console toplist, and I was told by the owner of this toplist that I could do this. He told me to do it. Sam posted me on nocheat, which got me deleted from many adult toplists, none of which were Adult Origin or Clickhereporn. I have played AO on several occasions during that time and since that time, never having any problems over there, and always loving the return. Same goes for Clickhereporn. Anthony knows what a great, honest guy I am.

Anthony's good name is just as good as mine, you'll learn that someday.

Take Care Keith,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

P.S. As far as using other sites banners on toplists, that is true. I admit that. I needed the returns as my sites were struggling, and I apologize for this. I stopped that within a week and started using my own.

P.S.S. I remember a quote Anthony told me last July. Keith, "There is no way Smitty could have sent 450 votes that hour at reset. I could send 100% of my clicks from all of my sites at reset and not send that many." Keith, you and I both know that your comments to Anthony were bullshit. You had more sites on your server than sexspaces, and you had more hits than TheHun. If you had sent all of your sites to CHP at reset you would have sent 5000 votes. I was sending everything I had from a site getting about 40k a day, I don't think 450 at reset was unreasonable.

P.S.S.S. Keith, leave me alone. I am not your enemy. I have never been your enemy. I will never be your enemy. You have brought this all on yourself. I am the most honest webmaster around.

[Smitty]

Keith,

When I said, "Anthony got past your crap," I meant that he got past your false accusations of things I was doing. I was just re-reading this thread and noticed that my sentance there might need a little clarification.

Take Care,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[PITBULL]

I write this post as the Facts and only the Facts.
Keith you and I have been around for a while now in this Adult Traffic Biz. You longer than me http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif . Way before these CJ sites Existed when Top Lists where the Biggest way of trading traffic. For all those Reading this to show you how long ago "Sextracker Existed."
I feel I have to defend you here on your Post.
A while back Pinkteens was the largest Top List. Sam created a No Cheat Coalition to protect all Top List from Cheaters and Never would add anyone to his Board as a Confirmed Cheater without him checking each reported issue Himself. ( Just like this Board and Tim ). He worked
very close with the Programmer that created the Pinkteens Top List to make a feature now called Product to Catch Cheaters. The Domain xxxvivo.com was deleted from Pinkteens.com/tts/ Sam added to its Ban List and also added it to Nocheat because it was caught using the same IP numerous times to get more hits and be higher on the Ranks.

As far as using other peoples BANNERS. Which was a Huge no no in the Top List Arena. Everyone Respected each others Banners these things were Sacred. I have to say it was like Pulling Teeth to ask Smitty to stop using One Specific banner that I created. I still have the E-mails saying that " I do not want to stop using the Banners " Saying I will even play your Top List if you let me use them. He said this over and over in these E-mails.
But that was not the Point.

I also have to say that on the Top List Clickhereporn.com/tts/ a person would have to have a lot more than 40k of traffic to send 450 Votes at reset way back when. My very good friend at the time had over 125k in traffic and would only send 500 hits at reset. And I had about 100k and was able to send 400 Clicks and that was with all GUNS Pointing to CHP Which meant Pointing all the sites at reset first Popping CHP on Enter.
Anyway now the Clicks Credited have been changed so the list will count more for every Surfer "IP" sent.

I only wrote this post to set the record Straight. Since then Smitty has created his CJ sites and the above mentioned has nothing to do with those sites.

PS I read the Post on the Exit Traffic very Interesting just wondering how much the sponsor is paying when he is exited like this:
By your Post you should be gettng paid much less then .003.
http://www.tinyvirgins.com/
and like
This URL: http://www.easywarez.com/secret.html
Will Lead to this: http://www.tinyvirgins.com/x.html

[PITBULL]

"I meant Sextracker Did Not Even Exist"

[TheDoc]

wow, ook http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I wont comment about the above.

But if you want a design to make it simple
send me an ICQ if you havent found someone.

I can have my gimps design it, yes it looks
good and the price isnt half ass bad either.

What have I designed - oh lord let me think. http://www.amateurcontent.com http://www.sinfulcontent.com http://www.sexoverdose.com (about 2 years old)
http://www.massivecocks.com/ which converts
at an amazing rate for its design

http://www.tzc.com/ Business Site
http://www.twodoggs.com/slayers a game site

Im sure you can ask around and find a few
1000 more sites that I cant remember.
They range from normal basic designs to
very complex expensive designs.

I use photoshop and illustrator mainly.
Can do custom php, C, perl, java, blah
blah blah.

TheDoc

[Anthony Raff]

Smitty,

I wish you had not dragged me into this. I do not feel like posting much, but it does not seem like I have a choice.

Yes, there are a lot of people trying to cheat my toplist, and Keith has over the years alerted me many many times of cheaters. And yes, I deleted your site xxxvivo.com from clickhereporn toplist because you were posted as a cheater in NoCheat. Why or how your domain got into NoCheat, I did not care.

"Anthony got past your crap." Where did you get this idea, Smitty? I still listen and value very much Keith's opinion. If he thinks there's a cheater on my toplist, there is one.

And next time, please do leave me out of your posts!

Regards,
Anthony

[TheDoc]

After some quit thought on what I wront
I see that I kinda pulled myself into
a black hole.
First I want to correct how I worded this.
1) Yes we could all clean up our CJ sites
and yes we would all probally make shit pots
more money and traffic would be cleaner.
2) A sponsor wont change it, it has been
tired and failed.
3) 1:8000 is the worst ratio I have ever
heard of. Wetsmuts exit converts 1:300 I
have the stats to prove it when i have my
exit sponsor up and going.

---------------------------------------------

Next Issue:
I support and supported Smitys theory, yes
but I still back my other posts and
Pits post.

Let me tell you how I feel about the CJ world
as it is today.

1) I am so tired of CJ sites it hurts for me to think it, everyone (other than a few guys) just fucking bother me to death. I think im being cheated now but other than java and img source cant figure out how.

2) so many webmasters have cheated that CJ sites to me have fallen apart.

3) popups are kinda ok to me, I think shap added the first popup exit which was a small exit window but our CJ sites used to have content, like 3 free pics or some links to galleries. Now its nothing free and so fucking bad I dont even visit my own CJ site.

4) guys like smity really bother me, he cheated, he is a fucking dick head from hell that treats people like shit papper. Along with a few others I dont like for different reaons.

5) Most thing I hate most. Is that there isnt anything we can do about it anymore. CHH will be back under a different name, and different URL, smitty may or may not fead him traffic and one day down the line both might cheat again.

Another thing is im honestly tired of the fights with CJ webmasters like smity. And normal webmasters when I fuck some shit head little bastard messages and says I wont trade with you unless you add a perm cause I get 10k more hits than you.

This CJ business is fucking doomed I think
I know 4 webmaters that I know for a fact
that make money from the CJ business.

I have 4200 webmaters on my ICQ list, I
dont know who most are other than mabey 20.
Some are CJ sites, some TGPs, some Paysites,
designs, coders, and so on. And out of the
CJ sites I get atleast 5 people asking me
to tell him how to make more than 100 bucks
from a CJ site getting 10k a day.

It isnt sponsors that are going to fix this
shit, its us as webmaters, you have to
fucking dump the trash without remorese on
shit.

Advice would be guys like smity need to change along with some other webmaters.
Even some TGP guys that are fucking pricks
that think there site is so large there
head is cramed deep up there asses.

Good webmater? Bad Webmaster? WTF does it
mater right now? Us CJ guys argue over
crap bust people cheating, yell at smity
for being a dick, or cheatin in the past,
but then again we all run sites that
cheat the surfer from atleat a few free
pics and a make most guys computer crash
just from the 2000 lines of java we run


TheDoc

[Smitty]

TheDoc, amateurcontent.com and sexoverdose.com are very well designed. You do great design work.

Take Care Doc,

Jeff Smith
smitty@rof.net
ICQ#: 7127736

[jjstroke]

Everyone here seems to critisize work... maybe you could critique some of my work and give me a yay or nay...
http://www.squidmultimedia.com/adult/sites/x3/butterynipple/site/

Tell me what you think http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Ron]

looks good, though you might want to try some different text types. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Ryan