How can TGPs know if you submitted a site using an autosubmitter?

[michaelw]

Im working on a new project - a mass TGP poster made using Visual Basic. I want to know, how exactly do TGP's know if you submitted a gallery by hand or by script??

[bass_chick]

make sure an ip number and a browser type show as if you were submitting by hand.

also the reason they know with tgsw is that the pages have almost the same names, and they submit in sequence.

when i submitted by hand, i called my pages shemale, shemale1, shemale2 etc. the script calls them 01dec23.html 02dec23.html 03dec23.html and so on.

[michaelw]

thanks! Ill be using Internet Explorer as part of my new program - that is, and Internet Explorer window will be ON my program.. so hopefully there shouldnt be any problem http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Lizard]

Hey,

Im new here, i read this board sometimes
to keep up with things... http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anyways...

michaelw, to completely hide that its an
auto submitter, you must be able to fake
the referrer, otherwise its a simple matter
of checking if the referrer is from the
real submit form, my submit form shows
the referrer in the email i get, so it's pretty easy to see
if its an autosubmitter.

Maybe if you could have your program load
the real submit form, paste in the form
values and then 'click' the submit button
programatically you could hide it.

You could use something like SendKeys VbTab,true to tab to the field, put the
correct value in the clipboard object
and sendkeys shift+insert to paste in the
values, hit me on email if you need help
with that.

bass_chick, you can setup tgsw to use
custom filenames, its in options
somewhere...

[michaelw]

Yep. Thats what it does http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif. It loads up the actual submit form in the webbrowser. Instead of using SendKeys, Ive figured out another way to send the data to the form that just "places" the data in the area, instead of "typing" it. So far, it works like a charm and ive got some 500 TGPs in the database, all with proper recip links in the HTML http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

[Liquid Silver]

Call me dumb, call me honest....but isn't that a form of cheating that webmasters frown upon? I don't know, so maybe I shouldn't even speak up, but it doesn't sound that honest to me. My opinion from a small fry that follows all rules to try and get an honest chunk of whatever.
LS

[michaelw]

How is that cheating?? Is using TGSW cheating? All it does is save hours of useless work, and wasted hours. Either way, the pages get submitted, the pages have recips, the TGP gets galleries and get traffic, the advertiser I use on my pages makes money, I make money, everything works out for everyone; and a lot of time is saved http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Jer]

Hey michaelw, I need this script ! Wanna trade for traffic ? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[michaelw]

I dont even know if I can get it to work completely yet http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif. I have two bugs - one is I have to find out how to choose an option from and option box or list box, and the second is to successfully add recips to all the pages automatically, so far I can only do it by hand.

[michaelw]

I have a working poster for the Bianca boards, posts successfully to all of em, and you can add new ones easily without any configuration http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Jer]

Well, I need a TGP poster script. But forum poster sounds good too http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

When you have it working 100% I can trade it for traffic, it is the only way I can pay stuff from outside my Country http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Liquid Silver]

Most TGP webmasters say them will not accept submissions NOT done by hand "Don't be lazy" I believe they say. If you have something to beat their system [unless they don't care] isn't that cheating them? I don't know, maybe I have a different opinion on honest.
I like making pages, from conception to submission, I take pride in how fast I get at putting out tons at a time.
Like I said, maybe the TGP's you submit to don't care, but I know for a fact that about half of the ones I submit to state in the rules that they don't accept them. So I would consider that cheating someone who stated they don't accept them......if that's the case.
L S

[michaelw]

Jer - whats your ICQ?

[Muff]

If TGP's want fresh content than they should stop bitching how they get it.

Muff

[Liquid Silver]

Most people should fucking die, but who lives by that?

[michaelw]

I have another question - do you guys go straight to the submit page to submit your sites, or do you go to the main page, and click "submit your gallery"

[Jer]

I go straight to the submit page, ever

[Liquid Silver]

the main page because that is where my reciprocal button points. I submit off my pages to that's just where it takes me. LS

[Lizard]

Hey,

michaelw,

When I hand submit (Always do with the big guys) I just use my bookmarks that goes
to the submit page, never been a problem.

You are worried about cookies right?

[shane]

michaelw, do you wanna swap your bianca poster for my no recip tgp poster? (1 button press does 150, but more can be easily added)

[michaelw]

kinda.. My problem is that my TGP submit tool goes right to the submit page, and submits the info. It doesnt go to the main page, and then to the submit page. I asked the Q because I was wondering if the TGP looks at the referrer to the page. Using my submit tool, there is no referrer to the submit page, but there is a referrer to the script being sent. But.. I guess that shouldnt be a problem http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[bass_chick]

no, most tgp's don't have a rule about posting by hand. a few do. i don't hide that i'm using tgsw - why should i? a couple sites had a problem, but i have the option of posting there by hand or saying "fuck them".

lizard -the custom filenames on tgsw are pretty much as obvious as the non-customs.

it's pretty lame of tgp's to say "do it by hand - don't be lazy". they use a form. they don't have me send a big stupid email. and many of them use an automated one-click method to check the galleries. most of the others use other webmasters to check the galleries.

i'm not lazy - this is the web, it's all about computers. jeez! our counters are automated, our sponsors are automated, why shouldn't this function be automated?

[Lizard]

Hey,

michaelw, no that is not a problem I think,
most wm's bookmark the submit page and not
the main page...

bass_chick, I have been using the desktop
version - when i used the script version
it was a custom option where you had to
paste it into a textbox in the settings
which then updated the script...

I can understand to some point the sites
that dont want tgsw/auto submit scripts, you
would be surprised to see how many messed up pages
that is submitted because the wm does not
check thier stuff once in a while, some sites
will also close their submit page if they are
backlogged, and since the submit script posts
to the script and not the submit page the
submission will go thru anyway...

[noodle]

I agree with bass_chick.

What a wank for TGPs to expect you to submit by hand. As if they don't have enough rules and shit, they have to try and exert some more authority from their god-complexed egos.

Whether you are a TGP submitter or owner, most of us work our entire waking hours, so what the fuck is this 'don't be lazy' shit.

We give them content (at no bandwidth) and we get traffic in return. That's a fair deal. Then they expect recips so they get OUR traffic back (and I've seen recips that are 50 fucking kb!). Then they lay down a million other bullshit rules (and change them at a whim).

Bass_chick is absolutely right - the reason I bought a computer was so that I could do everything by hand. NOT.

[Lizard]

Hey,

We pretty much agree on all counts, but
a recip is not a big deal - it helps the
tgp grow and send you more traffic.

And if you think the recips pulls a lot
of clicks, then try to put an exit tracker
on them http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

If they dont want auto submits, fine, I will
respect that, and just submit to some of the
other 10.000 tgp's out there... - with my script http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[Mogul]

If webmasters don't want to receive auto submits, they don't have to. It is very easy to detect auto or not if you use PHP4(as I do).

There is no faking about it.

While I know if a submit is auto or not, I don't care. All that matters is the quality of the page in question not how the user submitted it. Why benefit the idiots who don't want to get with technology?

Post or Die.

I just hand post to the couple big places that I know watch for auto and that send loads of traffic. The rest all get posted to with my program.

[basschick]

hey, keep us posted when your new script is up and running!

[geirLUR]

An obvious reason they want you to handsubmit is that if you don't, how could you read and follow their rules? I can see why this pisses the tgp owners off..

[basschick]

the tgsw checks regularly for changes on the rule pages, and it lets you know which rule pages have changed.

[dana]

right now I'm working on an automated submitter.

two big featues it has are: you ABSOLUTLY CANNOT identify it as an automated submit. the second is it can check whether the submit page was approved or not. also - very fast operation !!!

It's a part of a big package of softwares for webmasters I'm currently building - it also builds Galleries and handles recips.