Octav from EXITMONEY - you owe me 805 USD , pay up !

[MJ]

I have told a lot of you that I know on ICQ about this, but for the benefit of the rest of you, and in the interest of getting my money I will post it here.

webmasterexit.com, used a lot by CJ2 and other adult masters was what I thought working nice for me, I had made 805 usd when they had to 'close' the program for a while.

They resell for exitmoney.com
little did they know he would just brand most of their webmasters as 'cheaters' and refuse to pay up.

I am now 805 usd out of money, and the guy at webmasterexit just don't have to money to pay me out of his own pocket, although he has offered perhaps 200usd for now.

Octav, this is not a good thing to do to me, I wont not be paid what is owed to me..

so pay up, or I will make you pay

--MJ very pissed at not getting paid

[Vegemite and Cheese]

LOL

[richard]

Who used to run webmasterexit?

mnh1?

Same bloke who runs webmasterdialer?

hmmmmn.

[shane]

thanks richard, im taking down my webmasterdialer links.

[ProgGod]

It sounds like your beef is with webmasterexit.com not exitmoney.com. If you webmasterexit.com is who paid everyone previously, and you signed up through them, its them who is responsible.

[MJ]

It should be with webmasterexit, but since they resell for exitmoney

and exit money did not pay me 'since they detal with payments'

it's the guy from exitcash who won't pay up.. tbh, I just wany my money from who, I don't care

[exitmoney]

MJ,

I would have appreciate you emailing me and trying to get this matter solved before getting to the boards. You are slamming my name and company without taking any measure of recovering your money. So I will play by your rules and will let anybody know what happened here in case people deal with you so they will be warned.

1- the program was run by www.webmasterexit.com (http://www.webmasterexit.com) , they had some problems and they closed , I do understand that. All valid webmaster payments were out all honest webmasters were paid.

2-about your account, you were not paid by my reseller because I told them myself not to pay you if they don't want to pay from their own money. The reason is the following: YOU CHEATED THEM.
How is by using a robot or any other device of sending multiple fake hits to our pages. Everybody could take a look at his log files at http://209.25.173.25/mjsn_cheat.txt and judge yourself. Please note that the same ip was paid at least 10 times and the Ip ranges are extremely close as in a proxy, all that WITHIN THE SAME DAY.
This should clear up everybody. I don't understand how come some cheaters have the balls to start cry on boards about not getting paid. I understand that some are not honest, there always were and will always be people trying to steal and cheat. But once you see you are caught you don't make any mess, you just shut your month and pass to another sponsor that cannot find you, you don't just blow the shit so everybody knows you are a cheater.

Anyways, as I said webmasterexit.com was my reseller, I personally don't care if he is going to pay you or not, but one thing is sure no honest webmaster's money from exitmoney.com will ever be paid to you or any other cheater.

Good day everybody

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[Saddam Hussein 2001]

damn !!!!!

busted !!!!!

[candidpublishinginc]

MJ you're a complete idiot.

That's obvious hitbot traffic...and it's really dumb to use the same proxy over and over again.

Any SMART sponsor like me or exitmoney has various hitbot protection systems in place.

Grow a brain you cheating scum.

[WiredGuy]

Exitmoney> Great job. It's rare to see a sponsor go out of his way to clear an accusation and you did an excellent job.

MJ> Unless you have an amazing excuse (like your dog did it), looks like your busted. May as well confess to the hitbot before word lands you on the hall of shame.

WG

[ProgGod]

I just love the trend of accusing people public of something first, then talking to them second.

MJ maybe if you tried to resolve this privately you wouldn't end up looking like so much of an idiot.

[playa]

yep your beef was wit webmasterexit

[shane94]

And the board grows silent hehe http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[MJ]

I have never used a hitbot or anything like it.. all my traffic was an exit from 4 of my sites.

I did try to contact you via ICQ and email but got no reply.

I don't like the way you have tured this around to me, I never cheated webmasterexit

[MJ]

Infact you shaved liked hell, if you really want to look into the numbers, paycounter counted 50k unique's on days you counted 15k raw.


So if your going to refuse to pay for proxy traffic (there is alot of it in the CJ2 circle) and you claim to pay for 'raw'

I want to know how you counted 15k raw on days paycounter counted 70k

and before you blame me for using a hitbot and refuse to pay me, you should contact me.

I have tried many times before I posted here to contact you and sort this out.

[exitmoney]

even more pathetic .....

got no email from you so far , but anyways don't bother to email anything as you are on the black list and we dont waste time with cheaters unless you really have something important to say like your partner tried to ripp you off or you were hacked or bullshit like that.


Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[Jobbe]

The exit used by MJ for his sites was not under his control to change since it was hosted on hostforexit and there is no way he would have wanted to, or be able to use a hitbot.

exitmoney, it's very easy for you to just make a text file call it mjsn_cheat, copy and paste some i.p's and try and discredited another webmaster.

Just my 2 cent.

[MJ]

email sent to you 3 days ago, then twice each day after that came back with

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim).

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

webmaster@exitmoney.com
Connection refused:
retry timeout exceeded


--

so how the hell can I contact you, if you block mail from me?


It looks like you just did not want to pay up, so you brand me a cheater, and make it hard for me to bug you.

[exitmoney]

Jobbe,

Are you MJ second account here or what?
what is the bullshit he hosts the exits on another host an exit is a javascript code that opens our windows that is all http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I am not an hitbot expert, but that is third party software you could run it from your windows machine as well to send fake traffic.

And yes you could doubt of the logs, as you could doubt of everything but then if the log is fake then consider the real one has 0 entries and you are not supposed to get any money so no big deal here http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

it gets more and more pathetic here


Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[MJ]

Just tried to sort this out with Octav on ICQ.. now I just see him as a thief of traffic.

he knows I never cheated, but wont pay up
Octav your a thief, an asshole and should not be used as an exit sponsor!

[MJ]

ohhh -- from octav on ICq

yes make more threats here and we will see who ends up with two loyers at his door, dotn forget I have all your personal info, just try to do something even mor e stupid and you know how it will end

---

Octav, you had almost made yourself look like the good guy, shame you had to spoil it

[candidpublishinginc]

How can you proove he's a theif if there's clear evidence on the table that shows you were sending hitbot traffic?

Traffic that was shown in the log is obvious hitbot traffic....no question about it.

Unless of course you claim that those logs are false.....that's a different story. But Octav is an honest guy, and paid countless of webmasters on time...so why would he single you out?

[exitmoney]

MJ,

dong get that ICQ out of his ICQ list, you threaten me of doing all kind of things and I told you that if you want to do something stupid know that I have all your info and I could sue you anytime in england that is not a big deal. That is all.

just accept you cheated and that is all stop wasting my time here and waste yours in improving your hitbot software http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[MJ]

I am not sure if the logs are false, all I do know is that I never cheated/used a hitbot or did anything unfair or that breaks their T&C. He has not just done this to me, webmasterexit tell me that it's been done to a large % of their webmasters.

one for around 3k, just glad I am not that poor guy.

If this log is not just made up by Octav then the only other thing it can be is alot of proxy traffic..

when your looking at a log with 25,000 ip's a day it's not hard to find some traffic in their that comes from proxy I.P's

I and a lot of other CJ2 sites had a lot of Korean / Chinese traffic feed into the CJ2 loop, I know this because of my stats with softwarecash.

as most of you should know all Korean / Chinese traffic is routed via government proxies..

now you claim to pay per raw, well it seems when it get's a little more raw than 100% unique you want to call me a hitbot cheater.

and refuse to pay up.

Octav, I never once in my life have ever tried, or even wanted to use a hitbot. I just check my trades, build new layout build traffic and expect to get paid for the traffic.

In fact since I stopped using webmasterexit and got a dialer, I have made 4 x what I would have with the exitmoney program, which just goes to show how much you made out of me, and how much you shaved

if you want to sue me, go ahead I don't have any money to be sued for, since certain people don't pay me for all my hard work

[Due]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
How can you proove he's a theif if there's clear evidence on the table that shows you were sending hitbot traffic?

Traffic that was shown in the log is obvious hitbot traffic....no question about it.

Unless of course you claim that those logs are false.....that's a different story. But Octav is an honest guy, and paid countless of webmasters on time...so why would he single you out?</font>

I don't know about you. My logs have always looked something similar to this:
24.92.210.78 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:24 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=movie&p=60&url=http://216.187.80.234/gc/show.php?movie HTTP/1.0" 302 289 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.73 [en] (Win98; I)"
65.14.227.27 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:24 -0400] "GET /today.shtml HTTP/1.0" 200 783 "http://www.qualitygalleries.com/galleries/groupsex.shtml" "Mozilla/4.04 [en] (Win95; I)"
64.167.78.86 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=cumshot&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?cumshot&p=50 HTTP/1.0" 302 300 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.77 [en]C-PBI-NC405D (Win98; U)"
65.92.46.218 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=wifes&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/mature/ HTTP/1.0" 302 282 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.73 [en]C-SYMPA (Win95; U)"
216.129.135.8 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=shemale&p=60&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?shemale HTTP/1.1" 302 312 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)"
212.156.123.182 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /11.jpg HTTP/1.1" 200 1867 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
24.100.232.131 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=wifes&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/mature/ HTTP/1.1" 302 294 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90)"
24.30.89.191 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=hugetits&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/tits/ HTTP/1.1" 302 292 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
24.161.82.141 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=hugetits&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/tits/ HTTP/1.0" 302 280 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.78 [en] (Win98; U)"
211.91.226.209 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=wifes&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/mature/ HTTP/1.1" 302 294 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
209.244.214.169 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=shemale&p=60&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?shemale HTTP/1.1" 302 296 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; AT&T CSM6.0)"
63.59.18.76 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=old&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/mature/ HTTP/1.1" 302 285 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSNIA; Windows 98; DigExt; sureseeker.com)"
165.247.43.92 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=old&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/mature/ HTTP/1.1" 302 295 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)"
211.90.100.97 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=amateur&p=60&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?amateur HTTP/1.1" 302 296 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
210.139.70.82 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=teensex&p=60&url=http://grom.ai.net/tgp/teensex/ HTTP/1.1" 302 295 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt)"
207.94.232.170 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=shemale&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?shemale&p=50 HTTP/1.1" 302 312 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; MSNIA; Windows 98; DigExt)"
66.32.39.238 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /today.shtml HTTP/1.1" 200 743 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)"
146.119.253.11 - - [24/Sep/2001:00:00:25 -0400] "GET /cgi-bin/ucj/c.cgi?link=hardcore&p=60&url=http://www.tgpmanagement.com/gc/show.php?hardcore HTTP/1.0" 302 273 "http://www.tgp4all.com/r/index.php" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 4.0)"

If he can paste the IP log mayby it would be a GOOD idea to include ALL info. Everyone can write something like that

[exitmoney]

Due,

for the counting software there are different logs depending of what you pay on and what you want to show webmasters. we dont need the browser or the operating system and all that within the software. The logs you show are the apache default logs, you could customize that to look the way you want it to and use from it whatever you need

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[MJ]

Octav you still give no good reason for not paying me..

If you really want I can send you a 1gig log file and you can see the traffic I get in, and then compare it to your logs

You will see, it's no hitbot traffic

I am still 805 USD out of pocket, going to pay?

[exitmoney]

Mj,

why dont you just stop wasting my time. I posted the logs so everybody could see that it is fake traffic, how in the world you could even think that once I know and everyody knows it is fake traffic I will pay anything for it? It does not matter is you cheated for $8 or $805 or $8,000 cheating is cheating, it is not becase it is not a big deal of money is because it is fake traffic that is all.

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[MJ]

Octav you bore me, it's not fake traffic
it's true, real, pure whatever you want to call it..


as I have said you shaved mountains of my traffic anyway.. If paycounter can count 50k UNIQUE and you count 15k raw
then you are cheating me, in more way's than not paying

[eskimoen]

I know MJ, and I know he wouldn't do anything like this! He would NEVER use a hitbot.

Actually he contacted me (before I knew who he was!) and told me that he had seen a username and password to one of my sites admin.

MJ is a 100% fair guy!!!!

[WiredGuy]

MJ&gt; Care to explain why your hits look like a hitbot if they're not? So far, this is the biggest evidence on the table by exitmoney, so lets see you defend that. Seems particularly odd how how all the IP's are in the same subnet range to me...

Suspicious...
WG

[MJ]

as I have said, proxy servers for goverments
they have a range of i.p's for their proxy servers and then route all their traffic via these.

also there is a chance that Octav just made this log up. That I can't proove

all I know from my point of view is this.
I never used any form of hitbot at all
the only html on my pages, is the sites themself. I am not even sure how you would use a hitbot.

perhaps someone who knows more about them can explain if they do produce traffic like this.

The fact remains I never cheated, I just sent my exit traffic to webmasterexit
and never got paid.. that is all I know

[HeLiS]

sorry but i have to side with MJ here
one when i ran AVS sites i had so many AOL proxies it wasnt funny like 70% were AOL...and hey it was honest traffic but any sponcer would have thought it was a hitbot....


plus MJ has good evidence too....why did he not get relpys from his emails etc until now going on the boards?

i am somewhat sick of being ripped and seeing webmasters ripped for fake excuses i dont know if MJ is bullshitting or not but me the small guy sides with the small guy MJ i feel for you its not nice when you work hard and get ripped off...

those all you people against MJ think...just maybe he is an honest webmaster who had no control over his traffic....logs can be faked and the webmaster can lie so if you call MJ a cheater call the sponcer a thief....

[exitmoney]

"plus MJ has good evidence too....why did he not get relpys from his emails etc until now going on the boards?
"

I REPEAT no email was ever received at exitmoney.com before this post with any claim or review demand.

I am amazed how some people could take a cheaters side when PROOF of cheating has been posted. You take the word of somebody over the program logs.... That is just amazing .

Anyways I see that this post is getting nowhere I think I explained the cheater and everybody quite well why he has not been paid, I will be out of this wasting time with cheaters post. As all honest webmasters know they are always paid on time and well for 2 years now, as a matter of fact we need right now as much traffic as you could send, so webmasters not having an account with us yet, we will be more than pleased to buy all of your exit traffic with our 2 programs www.exitmoney.com (http://www.exitmoney.com) and www.junkexit.com (http://www.junkexit.com)


If anyone needs my help feel free to icq or email me octav@exitmoney.com

Regards

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com

[MJ]

Octav, I wont bother posting here again, I know you are not going to pay me, of course you want the 800 usd in your pocket, infact more than that..

I will put this down as a bad experience, and remember never to use you, and make sure othher's don't

after reading all this, do you still want to use exitmoney?

If I was you use dialers, they pay and pay better

--very poor MJ

[RaiDeN]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by exitmoney:
[B]I REPEAT no email was ever received at exitmoney.com before this post with any claim or review demand.
B]</font>


yourself stated that you blocked him.. theres you answer.

I dont want to get mixed up in this. but here in holland A LOT of us surf trough cable/DSL, and all with the same proxies.

furthermore: it also seems that the range of ip's you gave in the txtfile is sorted out to follow eachother on number... if you get waht i mean.

if you would see those numbers all mixed up it would have looked way less weird.

cause you are a reseller, i do believe you are sincere in thinking he was a cheater. but he and many claim not to be. so settle it this way.

pay him.....$ / signup generated trough his traffic, then you are both fair (especially you as a sponsor) and the problem is solved.

[HeLiS]

very good solution http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif if it was hitbot traffic there would have been no signups http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif but if there were signups pay him for the signups and leave it like that....sponcers kill accounts to often with out good proof please dont shit on the honest webmasters it only hurts us all in the long run...i havnt used a sponcer in over a year because i just dont trust them now and from internext shows it seems that shaving is now a known industry standard.....its going to destroy our industry and no one will care till its fucked....

anyway its just my two cents....

logs BTW are not idmisable in a court so why should we accept that as evidence ?....any laywer would say MJ has a case and based on things said in here an even better case....

i recommend all serious webmasters have laywer and a debt collector i do and trust me i havnt been ripped for a long time

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by RaiDeN:

yourself stated that you blocked him.. theres you answer.

I dont want to get mixed up in this. but here in holland A LOT of us surf trough cable/DSL, and all with the same proxies.

furthermore: it also seems that the range of ip's you gave in the txtfile is sorted out to follow eachother on number... if you get waht i mean.

if you would see those numbers all mixed up it would have looked way less weird.

cause you are a reseller, i do believe you are sincere in thinking he was a cheater. but he and many claim not to be. so settle it this way.

pay him.....$ / signup generated trough his traffic, then you are both fair (especially you as a sponsor) and the problem is solved.

</font>

[candidpublishinginc]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HeLiS:
sorry but i have to side with MJ here
one when i ran AVS sites i had so many AOL proxies it wasnt funny like 70% were AOL...and hey it was honest traffic but any sponcer would have thought it was a hitbot....
</font>

No they wouldn't. We have some of the most advanced hitbot protection out there, and we can tell the difference between AOL/cable proxy traffic and true hitbot proxy traffic.

Also, MJ I apologize for calling you an idiot. I really don't know enough to really side with either you or exitmoney, so I'll keep my mouth shut. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Exitmoney....it sounds like MJ says that he's emails are bouncing back to him. Perhaps you should look into this.

Again, MJ I apologize. I just hate seeing a sponsor getting bashed since I'm a sponsor myself.

I really can't comment who cheated who in this current matter.

[MJ]

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/009280.html

[MJ]

Talked it over with Octav M. and we have sorted it out. From his p.o.v I was sending hitbot traffic, but we have worked out what was wrong.

I will post more about it later
-- Sorry Octav :rolleyes:

[Unknown]

Originally posted by MJ:
<STRONG>Talked it over with Octav M. and we have sorted it out. From his p.o.v I was sending hitbot traffic, but we have worked out what was wrong.

I will post more about it later
-- Sorry Octav :rolleyes:</STRONG>

Tell us what was wrong then? Or are you just sucking up like Due because you are awaiting a check from Octav?

[MJ]

I am not getting paid, it was my fault/ or microsoft's bad coding that was to blame
when I get some time i'll set up an example of what happend

it was not a hitbot, it was a bug with the exit and download links that would cause the exit to load over and over..

it was removed as soon as i noticed and i thought no more about it

[Unknown]

Show me the HTML code that caused this "bug".

Or can't you...? :o

[MJ]

I will setup an example tomorrow. I would suggest no one tries to use it because it ends up doing is opening exits in a loop and crashing your PC

[Unknown]

So you won't show it until tomorrow because you have to build it first? Damn man, I first though you were innocent. :(

[MJ]

no I wont show it because it was over a month ago that it happend and I was not even the one who added the exit so I will get them to tell me what happend.

[MJ]

it was a case of lack of comunication, If I had got a chance to talk to octav before posting here we would have worked out what was wrong sooner. His logs where not false, it does seem like fake traffic (note that any good hitbot would send from very random i.p's if not what's the point of them)

from what octav can see in his stats his logs he has good reason not to pay me. I should have pointed this out as soon as I noticed it. It was infact spacee who noticed the problem with my exit.

so to octav and exitmoney I am sorry I jumped the gun I should have waited a little longer

to other webmasters, i am sorry to involve you in something that's not for you to worry about.

as soon as I speak to the person who put the exit up for me I will post a link to a page that will show what happend.. and you can view the html yourself

no tricks it's just a problem with open download windows and the unload in the body tag

[exitmoney]

Due, Scotty, MJ

Thanks guys for finally setting everything down, I have absolutely no hard feelings with any of you and I do understand your positions. You just jumped on because at the time you posted from a point of view it was your right to get the truth and I do appreciate that. What I appreciate less is that everybody looked only at one side of the story your own and did not first communicate with me see what was wrong. All this post could be avoided but again I don't have any hard feelings and I do understand you all, I even want to thank you for finally setting this up like adult professionals.

Now everything is back to normal, I want to thank everybody that supported me on this case and did not question my good fait. That Is what keeps me working and having close ties with all webmasters Small and Big, everybody deserves the same respect and care regardless of the money earned. For those that said they doubt about my honesty and jumped on conclusion too fast, one piece of advice ANALYSE first all sides of the story before making a decision or taking for somebody, it is not because some minor problems that you have to forget the fact that exitmoney is in this business for as long as exit consoles exist and not only paid every single webmaster but helped the community and made a lot of small nebee webmasters be what they are right now. I am proud to say that I wend hand in hand with a lot of webmasters good times bad times we stick together and thumbs up everybody.

Now finally to end this big post, I would like to remind everybody that the fastest and best solutions to sort something out with sponsors is to talk to them. Sponsors are here not only to get rich but to HELP you and WORK with you , all webmasters small or big.

Take care everybody and have a good day.

Octav M. http://www.exitmoney.com

[Arthur]

And so the protagonists join hands in a show of mutual respect and admiration, to the wild applause of the audience.

All is right with the world again...

[credits roll]

[Dan S]

:) @ Arthur and all others

[Dan S]

:) @ Arthur and all others