View Full Version : Im from australia, can ne1 tell me who i pay tax to when i use usa banner click progs
rhythm
12-26-2000, 05:49 AM
hi,
I mainly do tgp sites (free stuff) and i live in austalia.
do i pay tax in australia even though i make my money technically in usa, as my banner progs are from usa and my free hosts are based in usa ?
If i pay tax in australia , do i hae to reg a business to write off all my expenses, ie. computer, business lunches, porn mags, content etc..... ????
If any webmaster here is in australia and has done a tax form before under the occupation of adult webmaster, could you please either email me or reply here telling me what i can rite off legally in australia ?
thanx heaps,
Mike.
noodle
12-26-2000, 07:15 AM
1. Internet porn is a crimial offence in Australia. It is a federal crime under the Classifications Act (Cth). So I wouldn't tell anyone here about your activities. It is an offence even though your stuff is hosted offshore. But it is highly unlikely that you would be prosecuted. There are many adult WMs in Aust. Just don't go around telling govt authorities about it.
2. When you get checks from overseas, bank them for CASH. Don't deposit them into your account. If your bank won't trade checks for cash find one that does. Westpac does, but it depends on which branch you go to, so shop around.
3. You only need to pay tax in your country of residence, so you don't need to pay tax to any overseas countries.
rhythm
12-26-2000, 08:21 AM
wow, i never knew that, so noodle, how long have you been doing this for in australia ?
are u 100% sure it is illegal to be an adult webmaster even thou th content ishosted overseas ?
this just doesnt sound right. I know for a fact that it's illegal to host porn sites on aussie hosts, but its all hosted o/s.
do you know who i could talk to (ie. govt , police etc) that could give me 100% accurat info bout this ?
so noodle, do you still have the checks addressed to your name ?
richard
12-26-2000, 08:29 AM
In the UK, hardcore is illegal.
Uploading a hardcore picture from the UK to a dutch server constitutes publication of obscene material.
Even if it is hosted somewhere else, it is the publication that i would be done for if i did hardcore and got caught.
There was a legal case a while ago over here, and that is what the judge ruled.
Chances of my ever getting caught would be slim, at the moment, but its a risk i don't need to take. It is infact illegal in the UK to even download, hence view, a page with hardcore porn on it. Little old fashioned doncha think?
Rhythm, talk to a lawyer.
Don't go down to the cop shop, you planned to have one of those "I have this friend yea, and he has this problem" convos were you? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
Rich
rhythm
12-26-2000, 08:47 AM
I know what you mean, i would love to see a lawyer, but firstly, lawyers will charge you a fortune, and most probably take them ages to find the info that i need to know, as the porn industry in oz is extremely small, especially online, thus no law firms specialize in this niche area.
Secondly, the federal govt are the guys who make these laws, so if theres anyone who can give me honest advice its them.
which is why i dont mind talkin to them. they dont place bugs on your houses etc if they dont know who you are.
so if anyone in oz knows a webpage related to this topic, or an email of some person truly in the know, please post it here, or mail it to me : oakefold69@hotmail.com
thanks alot for your help people. Its good to hear from u guys.
baddog
12-26-2000, 09:04 AM
you can send the money to me and I will see to it that everyone gets their cut if there's any left, I will open an account here in USA for you, then you can come here for holiday and have money to spend. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Juggler
12-26-2000, 05:58 PM
Noddle where do you get your info from??????????????????
Internet porn is a crimial offence in Australia?
noodle
12-26-2000, 09:13 PM
Hey guys,
1. I am a solicitor and I have read the Classifications Act.
2. Even though the content is hosted overseas, YOU are in Australia, and so your actions are governed by Australian law. As an Australian resident you can even be prosecuted for conduct done while outside Australia. Eg. A few years ago the federal police started a prosecution campaign against Australian men using child prostitutes in south east asia.
3. Yes the check must be in your name. But you must get it for CASH and not deposited into your account. Like I said, shop around for a bank that'll do this.
rhythm
12-26-2000, 11:44 PM
noodle, if thats true . tne how come there are australian porn sites around ?
dangerdave.com.au has been around for years and all over his site he says that he's proud to be aussie.
I read all news articles and stuff last night bout this topic, and in everyone it clearly states that only if hosted in aus can u be sent to the ratings commision, or whatever its called to have your content rated, and if its rated, R - X - or RC then you will get fuxed up by your isp who is hosting it + the fed govt.
Also, if your a solicitor, and you make lots of cash doing that , then why do you participate in something that is a federal offense ??? *curious*
noodle
12-27-2000, 12:19 AM
Firstly, I get paid shitloads more doing this than than as a solicitor. And I don't have to hang around those obnoxious arseholes in the legal profession.
Secondly, it is not the hosting of the material that is the offence. You can have porn up to your eyeballs on your computer, as hadrcore as you like (except kiddie and beastie) and there is nothing anybody can do. The key word is 'transmission'. And transmission of x-rated material has no geographic boundaries. The act of transmission is done by a person, not by a computer. And if the person lives in australia it is an offence.
magnatique
12-27-2000, 01:09 AM
noodle, you might know your shit, but be careful with cashing your checks... if the govn' comes after you for unpaid taxes, even checks that were cashed are kept somewhere.
My uncle used to cash in checks at his bank in order to hid from the taxes, and he got fucked over 20 years later... they keep microfilms of all transactions... at least they do here in Canada.
Well, magnatique, how come your uncle have been fucked up after 20 years?
No one can sue another after 6 years he made the crime...
My father was working without paying his taxes before...and 7 years after, they came to our house and tried to fucked him....but they haven't been able 'cause they were too late...
Well, it's like that for taxes...I'm sure of what I'm saying http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
Agree with Rod, 20 years is too much, thats quite enough for murder but for taxes it should be somewhere about 5-10 years everywhere.
Anyway, I wouldn't like to have bad sleep next 5 years http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
XM
Forgot to say, as for checks collecting by cash, the probability of being caught by some tax officers depends on laws. If the bank has to report transactions over xxx $ to tax office it doesn't help to CASH the checks, just necessary to have the checks small enough.
Another thing is which tax officer will know the money are from porn-biz? (Of course Stiffy cash checks not counted http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif ). I think you can claim anything, because there is no evidence, no signed agreements, nothing. And I am in big doubt some US porn company will report anything to European tax officer.
XM
rhythm
12-27-2000, 03:54 AM
noodle, I still dont get how you can make so much money from the porn biz and not clear it.
Say if you cash a cheque in for cash, thats fine, you have cash. Now lets assume someone makes $2000 a month from a small hobby porn site. over one year thats 24k . u cant put that kind of money onto a bank acnt coz anyone with half a clue on the other side would get suss and report to the authorities. it's also pretty stupid to keep that much cash on you, as it is not insured in any way, and it really makes you look like nothing more than a drug dealer on paper ( trust me on that one, i have mates in high places).
I had a plan from day 1 ( about 3 months ago) to create a legal cash flow such that i can legally make 14k within the shortest time span possible. Why you ask ? well because I am a 20 year old university student, to be eligible for full youth allowance payments one of the conditions to get it is to make 14k through fulltime or partime work. After making 14k, i am eligible to get the full austudy payments of $350 per fortnight.
that doesnt sound like much but during uni, i dont have time to play with porn sites, so i really dont have any pther income, hence getting $350 bux per fortnight for doing nothing s pretty good.
hence back to my point, i really need to set this up as a legal business in order to have it vount as a proper job + that way i can write off many things on tax http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif ( which was part 2 of my plan, as i need a new poota)..
your probably thinking by now that i scheme way too much, but hey, if its all legal, and i can get free stuff, then it's all good if you ask me.
So noodle, there are obviously sites such as dangerdave.com.au , adultshop.com.au that run legitimate aussie porn businesses with adult content. Why arent they getting sent to court through these federal censorship laws ?
thats what i dont get. I mean, you are a lawyer, hence you know more than all of us, and your most probably right about this subject. But what are the true chances of the authorities filling a case against me for doing this as a legitimate business ?
The last point i want to make, is after reading the recent ammendment to the online censorship bill ( forgot the full name), it only makes reference to isps who host porn, not to induviduals who have porn sites on other countries servers. I mean, the gist of the whole bill basically says that any host or provider in AUSTRALIA only is not allowed to host porn. But it says nothing about induviduals such as us who make a living off this industry, and who also host outside aust.
from what i also understand, it's also only the state laws which havn't been passed yet in most states that prohibit publishers from posting adult content.
eh, i guess it's time to face the music for me and see a lawyer who specializes in this shit to get a pro opinion of what this law really means and how serious the fed govt is about enforcing it.
rhythm
12-27-2000, 04:15 AM
also noodle, whats the name of the bill or law that states that transmission of adult content is illegal ??
i know that http://www.fed.gov.au/ has a list of all the bills etc, so if you know the exact name of the bill thats got this stuff about transmission being illegal, then could you post up the name of it so i can check it out for myself ?
thanx alot,
mike.
magnatique
12-27-2000, 03:49 PM
ron, they can't check back later than 5 years, but if you DO get caught for fraud, they can go back your entire life span I believe, or at least 20-25 years...
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