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Swat

09-11-2001, 08:30 PM

The israeli goverent has failed to show the world , with what kind of terrible people we are dealing at . The result was shown clearly at the Derben's council , where israeli was clamed as Racsist that humiliates the poor islamic palestinian .
But where We have failed with our best speechers , the palestinian did the job for us by celebrating this tragedy infornt of the Tv cameras .

How did Kofi anan said before : We have to evacuate all settelments (which means by all palesitian - Tel aviv as well is a settelment) in order not to be attacked by terror . And as well to talk negociate with them in order not be be blown in a disco by a beliver SHAHID .
I want to see him say now : lets Negociate with bin laden , and lets evacuate the settelment of new york .

I am terrible shocked by the attack today .And i know the feeling of those terrible pictures on the television from here . I hope the the rest of the world will now wake up , and see which are the enemies of the free world , not only the enemies of israel.

God bless all the people that were hurt today .

Elron .

aw-tolik

09-11-2001, 08:35 PM

as i think it not a racism
it nationalism

but i dont think what a palestinian make this

it dont have any sence for they...

Swat

09-11-2001, 08:45 PM

Of course Arafat has condemded it , but the real colors are shown from his mob .
It only shows as well how hypocrit they are .

Here's the link :
http://mediaserve.co.il/twinscollapse.root/palestin.html

It is an israeli broadcast , but the video shows it all .

harvey

09-11-2001, 09:41 PM

Swat:
About 3 years ago, there was an study made by UN (United Nations, just in case) that showed that since echonomic block to Iraq started 500,000 children died because of this. No 500,000 Saddams, no 500,000 soldiers, no 500,000 adults. 500,000 (fiver hundred thousands) children died. Then, in one US TV show (I don't remember exactly which one, but 99% sure it was "60 minutes") they asked Madeleine Albright her thoughts about this and she answered: "It's OK". Then they asked if she REALLY thought those deaths were justified and she answered "Of course they are" and some shit about the "fight for freedom".

Now, what do you want that people to do? Cry because the main Israeli allied was attacked? They're common people, and very fanatics ones, but they're no different to you. They're as fanatic and blood thirsty as you're, with only one difference: They suffered millions of innocent deaths. And USA was attacked for the very first time.

Now, if the murderers who did the attack to USA today wanted to kill millions of people (or even erase several cities of US from the map) they'd have been directing those planes to nuclear plants or missillistic bases. Instead, they attacked 1 strategy center and 1 commercial center. That was an "effect strike", not a search for casualties.


I hope the the rest of the world will now wake up , and see which are the enemies of the free world , not only the enemies of israel.


About the enemies of the free world:
who? the ones who devastated Vietnam, Corea, half Africa, most of Latin America, the Balcans, Middle East... (add whatever you want here)? The ones who killed civilians by millions? What are you talking about?

To me, the enemies of freedom are US, NATO, muslims, israelis, russians, christians and anyone who likes to give you their message of "love and freedom" by killing your family and destroying your home.

And just in case, I'm european, from a NATO country, my wife is half-jew and I have family at Israel and US. And I live in Latin America and Europe half of the year.

But death is the same everywhere.

Too bad life chances are not the same for everybody

Peace today more than ever
Harvey

harvey

09-11-2001, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by Swat:

God bless all the people that were hurt today


Yes, whichever their God is

Swat

09-11-2001, 10:08 PM

The iraqi people are paying the price of obaying to their scum leader , which conquered a smaller but much more richer country . just because he failed to feed his nation with his own resources .
It is not anyones fault that despite of the world preasure against iraq , they were still supporting their leader , which also sent scuds to tel aviv just to have more friends with him at that war .
I dont remember and israeli SHAHID with a bomb inside his coat that went to blow himself among 30 bus passengers .i dont remember any american blowing him self in iraqi disco bar , with the hope to get 27 virgins in heaven . i dont remember any NATO member blowing buildings . i dont remember any british that hyjacked jetlines .
i dont remember any religion that gave the fully justification to encourage people to blow themself with a bomg among innocent civillians , and promising them to get laid with girls in heaven .

The point is not who you fight , but how you fight , and what are your moral values .
Stick it in your head before you justify terrorists next time (and yes you gave justification to the terror acts by telling us what america did to iraq ) .

Swat

09-11-2001, 10:11 PM

Also , the opinion of Madeleine Albright do not represent all of the western world opinion , the same way as any terrorist do not represent the opinion of all of his country .

Swat

09-11-2001, 10:15 PM

Now, what do you want that people to do? Cry because the main Israeli allied was attacked?


I expect them to be humans beings that feels sorry for a death of so many innocent people , and not to celebrate this .
i dont rememeber celebrations at the roofs of new york , when the iraqi soldiers were killed .

harvey

09-11-2001, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Swat:
I expect them to be humans beings that feels sorry for a death of so many innocent people , and not to celebrate this .
i dont rememeber celebrations at the roofs of new york , when the iraqi soldiers were killed .

Well, then you get your head out of the hole not very often. And some points:

1) I'm as western as you, that doesn't make me a blood thirsty person
2) Madeleine Albright is in the same position Saddam is. Because the people supports her. Even worse: Nobody will hang you if you say something against Madeleine Albright. Try to do the same against Saddam in Iraq. Your point isn't even a point.
3) Iraqi people obbeys their leader? Sure. Some of them. And those who tried to get the chains off INSIDE Iraq at the times of the Gulf War and fighted Saddam were let down by the people supposed to help them: US soldiers. Direct orders of Bush father
4) I don't defend any extremist, none of them, no matter which politic orientation, religion or creed they have
5) You're very uninformed to even try to discuss. btw, SHAHID I guess it's your version of Shihad, which would mean "Holy War"
6) Quote from you

i dont remember any religion that gave the fully justification to encourage people to blow themself with a bomg among innocent civillians , and promising them to get laid with girls in heaven

I don't either. But it's not worse than the millions christians murdered in 2000 years of history. Or carrying a bomb is worse than what Inquisition did? Or the crusades? Or Saint Bartholomew Night? Or the support to Hitler?
7) Stick it in your head before you justify terrorists next time (and yes you gave justification to the terror acts by telling us what america did to iraq)
I shouldn't even discuss this, you couldn't even understand not in 100,000,000 years. But telling the truth is not terrorism. So UN and Madeleine Albright are terrorists fighting against US? To you, anybody thinking different is somebody deceiving to be murdered? And I pointed that Iraqi example because they're muslims too (just in case you don't know). Now, you "King of Wisdom": what did Vietnam did to you? what did Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Paraguay and Brazil did to you? What did Korea did to you? At least Koreans and Vietnamese fighted, but what about the "Plan Condor" in Latin America which ended with almost 100,000 dissapeared people, most of them intellectuals and students? You're so dumb that you can't even realize that I'm not defending anybody here, just explaining that this is a crazy world and if you kill, you'll get killed. And for that very same reason US security couldn't prevent this to happen. And it's not me who says that. Is one of those "extremists" (according to your point of view) of the US National Defense Council.

Finally, I'm worried than you. Because I do know what can happen. And you are very stupid to see it. And sadly, most people is as stupid as you.

Swat, if you believe in God, use that grey matter he gave to you. And tell people at your side to do the same. That way you can help. Hateread posts won't make any good, specially when you can't read and it's very obvious you don't know what are you talking about

btw, take a look at tgp2.net main page. It's very little, but it express it all

Peace today more than ever
Harvey

Swat

09-11-2001, 11:46 PM

1) I'm as western as you, that doesn't make me a blood thirsty person

I never said you are a blood thirsty person , please reply to what i have said , and not you what you have imagined .


4) I don't defend any extremist, none of them, no matter which politic orientation, religion or creed they have

You do defend , That is the subject of your reply to my thread .


5) You're very uninformed to even try to discuss. btw, SHAHID I guess it's your version of Shihad, which would mean "Holy War"
Please do not correct me as i say shahid , i know exactly what it means , and not jihad which is accualt a holy war . shahid is a holy muslim that has sacrifised his life , in order to kill others , that is the EXACT definition of shahid by the islamic arabs .


I don't either. But it's not worse than the millions christians murdered in 2000 years of history. Or carrying a bomb is worse than what Inquisition did? Or the crusades? Or Saint Bartholomew Night? Or the support to Hitler?


So now you have to give worse examples to justify terror , where do we go from this point ? . you will tell me that someone killed all my family , so its ok if you will kill only my brother ?
you are pathetic terror defender .
i dont believe you that you have half jewish wife . you probably said that to cover your deep feelings to the arabs , and justify their terror by mentioning some worse cases in the past .

I dont even think you give a damn about the killing of the american civillians at new york . because if you would give abit , you wouldn't try to to find guilt at the victum's side .

Your stories about being western and living in europe and all that crap , wont cover your real face , which feels that what happened in new york , was the right revenge from the innocent islamic fighters .

harvey

09-12-2001, 12:26 AM

OK, Swat, you're right. I'm Saddam Hussein, my grandfather was Stalin, my uncle was Hitler and I'm Bin Laden partner, you unmasked me

Asshole

ceev

09-12-2001, 03:23 AM

????? But i think Isreal and Palatinians are both too blame for there situation! Not just one side! But i dont think Palstines had anything to do with this, but since the jews control the media in the US makes it easy to create propaganda and falsehoods of others