Anyone know how to edit mpegs?

[BJ9]

heres the deal, I have 11 porn clips in mpeg format.

They are all between 800-900 kb and I need the beginnings and/or ends cut off so they're sized down to 500-600kb each clip and given back to me in mpeg format.
These must be mpegs, they cant be converted to avi, wmv's, etc.

I have been trying to do this myself and can't do this and I really need to start using this content.

I tried Adobe Premiere but I dont know what I'm doing and after editing a 900 kb clip it turned into 16 megs after exporting.

I'll pay someone to edit these down for me, or show me how to do it.

let me know

[baddog]

why can they not be wmv?

[BJ9]

Originally posted by bad_dog:
<STRONG>why can they not be wmv?</STRONG>


MPEG'S are universally readable by the majority of platforms. WMV's are smaller in size and don't sacrifice quality, but you will be ignoring a good number of surfers out there

[baddog]

I am sorry, but who can view mpeg, but not wmv?

[baddog]

are you afraid that people using web.tv will not be able to view your clips? if so, who cares?

[Mole]

I use MyFlix. It's IMO the best MPEG cutting tool out there. TMPGEnc is also good, but you can't cut with frame accuracy.

MyFlix operates at frame level, so you can cut at exactly the frame count you want. Excellent when you want to cut at scene changes.

Download it here:

MyFlix (http://www.mediawaresolutions.com/downloads.html)

It's trial version, but if you insert username and key to unlock it, it'll be fully functional.

[Mole]

Windoze people won't have problems viewing WMV because Media Player will automatically connect to M$ website and download the required codec.

Linux and other Unix variants and Mac people might have problems with WMV since they won't have the same automatic codec download support like in Windows Media Player.

I don't even think there's codec support for Linux.

Also, WMV requires relatively fast CPU to play. You'll need at least 300-400 MHz CPU to play at full frame rate with audio.

MPEG can be played on a 100 MHz computer at full screen and frame rate. MPEG is also universally supported by any platform and OS.

It all depends on the purpose of the clip. If you want to reach everybody, then MPEG is a sure bet.

If file size and quality is more important, WMV is an excellent alternative.

I'm especially very amazed of the new WM8 with it's 2 pass VBR encoding provides even better quality and smaller file size than DivX and Real.

[Bear]

Hi BJ9,

Check this out :
http://www.vcdhelp.com/editmpg.htm

There are tons of program which can cut mpeg. I use myFlix too, sometimes.

But if u have a lot of mpeg to cut, you should try Womble MPEGVCR. Easy to use and you can cut tons of mgeg at once.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Mole:
<STRONG>Also, WMV requires relatively fast CPU to play. You'll need at least 300-400 MHz CPU to play at full frame rate with audio.
</STRONG>

Please do not tell my PII 233 mhz PC that, I would hate for it to start slacking off on me now.

[ComaToast]

BJ9.

Upload them to an ftp server and I'll deal with them for you.

I need...

1)The server address L/P
2)How much you want to pay for editing 11 clips?

I can have them for you in one day after receiving payment. I'll do
the first one for free so you can test it.

contact me
editmpegs at yahoo.com

[BJ9]

Originally posted by bad_dog:
<STRONG>are you afraid that people using web.tv will not be able to view your clips? if so, who cares?</STRONG>


All I know is that when I look at top movie galleries on Thehun, al4a, pinkworld, worldsex, etc etc most of the movie galleries are mpegs. I only noticed that 2 were avi's.

So since I don't know much about this, I'm going to stick to what the pros are doing

[BJ9]

thanks guys you rock!

I downloaded ifilmedit and after cutting my film it stayed the exact same size (???).

So out of frustration trying to cut clips for 3 days and fucking them up, I'm just going to go with the 900kb files and hope they convert like mad, cuz I'll need it for my bandwith bill after I'm done with this!!! :(

[baddog]

BJ9,

Might I suggest that you are asking for trouble if you plan posting movie galleries to TGPs. While there may be one or two people that are successful using movie galleries on TGPs, they are most definitely the exception to the rule.

Your target market is the surfer with a broadband connection to the Internet, not a surfer with a dial-up modem. People with broadband connections, for the most part, are not wasting their time with TGPs going through long lists of links to sites with static pics, hoping to stumble on to a site with video content. They are going to MGPs where they know they will find video on every link.

Sure, the TGP owner will probably always accept your submit, but about all you will accomplish is use up a lot of bandwidth.

While discussing the target market, I think it is pretty safe to presume that any broadband surfer, using a MAC or not, will already have a codec for viewing a video in .wmv format. It is not like you are going to be the first guy using that format, and like I said before, you are not looking for a surfer with a dial up, using MAC or Windows.

[Mole]

Don't tell me you're using a 233 MHz box to edit and encode the WMV files?

How many hours does it take to encode eh? :rolleyes:

Also, try to view the movies full screen in a 233 MHz box.

Whenever a clip will play in full frame rate or not depends a lot on resolution and bitrate used. With low bitrates and resolution, it will of course be playable on a slow box. But try some full resolution DVDs and your 233 MHz box will choke.

[Mole]

I don't see any connection between using broadband and having codecs installed.

Using broadband doesn't automatically make a surfer a computer expert.

Never assume anything. If 5% of your visitors can't view the movies, it's 5% potentially lost revenue.

I'm not sure if Mac even supports WMV files.

I recently ran a poll on my movie member site and it turned out that almost 50% of my members were using dial up. This site only had movies and no pics.

[baddog]

Mole,

Now that is pretty funny, view DVDs with a 233. To tell you the truth, I do not care what type of processor I had, or how big a monitor I had, I think I would probably continue to use my 50" Magnavox for actual viewing of DVDs or videos for entertainment pleasure. Since I am not in the habit of violating any copyrights, I have no need of ripping DVD content.

As far as how long does it take to encode to video to .wmv, I have no idea. I use a batch encoder, so I do hundreds at a shot and turn it on when I am leaving or going to sleep. I do not see the point of sitting there and watching it.

As far as 50% of your membership being on dial-up, I can only guess that you do not have too large of a membership, otherwise you would be in danger of losing your broadband members for inability to access your servers, unless of course all your clips are 500k - 600k.

But this discussion is not really relevant, BJ9 is not talking about a members area, he is talking about posting movie galleries on sites like thehun, and I promise you, one day of that will bring his server to its knees, even if the clips are 300k. We will have to rely on BJ9 to let us know if I am right or not after he gets a site listed with a few big TGPs.

So, BJ9, please come back and let us know what happens. Okay?

[Mole]

I was of course refering to DivX DVD rips.

You must not be familar with US copyright laws. It states clearly that you may make a copy of a DVD you own for "backup" purposes.

I like to rip and encode my DVDs to DivX just for purely educational purposes. In fact, I've learned a great deal of things regarding the nature of digital videos (such as what's a key frame) :D and how to encode them getting best quality vs file size.

Gimme a video clip and I bet I can make them smaller and better quality than what you can.

The idea about fast and slow is PRODUCTIVITY. But since your clips are ultrashort it doesn't really matter.

My server pipe is big enough to satisfy anybody I can assure you and my movies are around 2-10 MB in size, with average file size beeing 4 MB.
They're currently in MPEG format simply because nobody has problems with them, but I am in the process of re-encoding them all to WMV formats since it provides a much better qualtiy vs file size ratio.

[baddog]

Originally posted by Mole:
<STRONG>You must not be familar with US copyright laws. It states clearly that you may make a copy of a DVD you own for "backup" purposes.

But since your clips are ultrashort it doesn't really matter.

My server pipe is big enough to satisfy anybody I can assure you and my movies are around 2-10 MB in size, with average file size beeing 4 MB.
</STRONG>

Oh, well since you are so versed in US Copyright law, you can direct me to the statute that says you can copy a DVD for backup purposes. Am not saying it is not so, would just like to see it

and where gig you get the impression that I have small clips? you consider one minute clips small?

and if your pipe is so fucking big, why don't you try posting some galleries to some big traffic TGPs/MGPs

Try handling 500k uniques a day downloading your video content with fucking dial-up and tell ne it does not affect you. You will not even be able to access via FTP most likely.

Of course, you would have to figure out how to get 500k uniques a day first.

[Mole]

Posting movies galleries is like suicide. It's hardly worth the bandwidth bills.

That's why I couldn't care less to get 500K of watered and unproductive traffic. You may like big numbers, but all which matters for me is quality and not quantity.

Better to spend the time on something which gives better profit.

FYI, my clips waries from 1 up to 8 minutes with average 3-4 minutes.

I don't know links about US copyright laws, but I thought this is common knowledge, like it's illegal to steal or kill somebody.

I just know that it's LEGAL to make a copy for personal use of anything you've bought and/or own. Such as copy a CD to cassette or MP3 or MiniDisk or copy the DVD to DivX or VCD on regular CDs.

Why don't you ask around on this board or ask your lawyer.

You know, the more you talk, the more you show your ignorance.

[Mole]

Oh yeah, I found a link after all.

It's pretty lengthy and I guess you wouldn't bother to read carefully through it anyway. But here you go:

DMCA Analysis (http://www.doom9.org/dmca_revealed.htm)

[Zo]

Mole

I use MyFlix. It's IMO the best MPEG cutting tool out there. TMPGEnc is also good, but you can't cut with frame accuracy.
MyFlix operates at frame level, so you can cut at exactly the frame count you want. Excellent when you want to cut at scene changes.

Download it here:
http://www.mediawaresolutions.com/downloads.html

It's trial version, but if you insert username and key to unlock it, it'll be fully functional.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi, Mole

What version of MyFlix are useing now ?

(MyFlix XE 1.0)& (MyFlix 3.0.5)& (M2-edit Pro 4.0) & (M1-edit Pro 4.0 )?




:confused:

[Mole]

I'm currently using MyFlix 3.0.5

I used to use the version 2.something, but just downloaded 3.0.5 installed and deleted the v2.

Unfortunately, I should have tested 3.0.5 more carefully and it turns out to be quite unstable compared to v2.

Of course there were a few new functions in it and a few functions removed, but I miss the stability of v2.

I guess I'll have to live with it since v2 isn't available anymore.

[bigsexvideos]

BJ9, you don't have to pay me and I'll edit the clips for you.

All I ask is a good textlink on your sites and galleries to my movie-site.

Mail me for details at bigsexvideos@startinbelgie.com

Don't forget to tell me where I can dl your clips.

[Mole]

Here's a FREE tutorial on cut and edit MPEG:
http://www.vcdhelp.com/editmpg.htm

[baddog]

well Mole, again you know shit about me, and my legal knowledge and abilities. I read the link provided, and I thank you for providing it, but perhaps you should read it a little more closely, or have your attorney read and interpret it for you. Better yet, get an attorney familiar with law in the USA, Thai law does not apply.

The ruling discussed states specifically: .-(1) No person shall manufacture, import, offer to the public, provide, or otherwise traffic in any technology, product, service, device, component, or part thereof, that-
‘‘(A) is primarily designed or produced for the purpose of circumventing protection afforded by a technological measure that effectively protects a right of a copyright owner under this title in a work or a portion thereof"

So, according to the ruling of Judge Kaplan, you can not copy a DVD because it would require the removal of the protection device that is digitally installed on the DVD to prevent its being copied.

Granted the author of the text provided on the link you provided does not necessarily agree with Judge Kaplan, but until he is sitting on a higher court than the judge, his opinion is only that, his opinion. It really does not matter if he has the entire legal world agreeing with him, until a higher court overrules Judge Kaplan, his ruling will stand.

In fact, as the author states in his own conclusion: "Should be pretty obvious by now, right? I don't think 1201a/b should apply to backing-up DVDs as long as you own them."

like I said, what he thinks means shit, until he gets to sit on a court bench, which I would have to guess will not be happening anytime soon.

So, while I am sure you are quite brilliant with cutting clips, and maybe even know a little about Thai law, you obviously do not know shit about USA law, and for what it is worth, I am a California paralegal, who is quite familiar with how to read, write, and interpret rulings. Yes, for the record, I have written rulings for the Court. It is quite common to present a ruling for a judge to sign, especially when you know you are going to win the case. When you lose, you can be forced to write the ruling, subject to the approval of opposing counsel, and then present it to the court for signing and entering into the record.

[Mole]

Well, all the DVDs I've ripped and tested is porn.

I have yet to come accross a porn DVD which has inteplemented CSS encryption. Neither do they have regional coding.

In fact, you can copy all the .VOB files straight from the DVD with Explorer.

So, without CSS, there's no need to remove any protection sceme. In other words, this judge's ruling does not apply here. So, what I have done is 100% legal according to US laws.

According to Thai laws, however, it is illegal to copy any copyrighted material. Not even for personal use. But since all form of pornography is illegal here, copyright laws do not apply.

Any more comments?

[Mole]

Oh, also, porn DVDs usually doesn't implement Macrovision protection either.

The reason why most porn DVDs does not implement any CSS or Macrovision protection is that they'll have to pay royalties in order to use it.

No regional zoning is for practical reasons so the discs will play worldwide.

[baddog]

Well I believe the subject was, as you stated, "You must not be familar with US copyright laws. It states clearly that you may make a copy of a DVD you own for "backup" purposes".

If you want to start changing the subject midstream, well . . . also, if it was not an issue, why were you using that link as your reliance for this discussion?

[Mole]

Ahem..
I have not changed the topic at all.

Let me summarize.

First I told you that I ripped DVDs and re-encoded them for "educational" purpose, which is my right to do since I own the DVD.

You then said: "Since I am not in the habit of violating any copyrights" which is an indication that I am violating copyright laws by making a copy of DVD which I own.

At this point, you've already fucked yourself because it is NOT a copyright violation to make a backup copy of a DVD you own.
What is illegal is decrypting the CSS encoding, which has NOTHING to do with copyright laws at all.

I then told you that it is "fair use" to copy a DVD which I own.

You then wanted a link, which I gave you.

OK, that page states that it's LEGAL to make a copy of a DVD, but it is ILLEGAL to decrypt the CSS encryption found on DVDs.

Now, if we were talking about mainstream movies, it would be "illegal" to make a copy, since in order to make a copy you'd have to decrypt the CSS encryption.

However, since this site is clearly "Adult Webmaster" it's natural that we're talking about porn.

I still stand correct on the issue that you can make a backup of a DVD you own. Provided that the DVD does not contain any CSS encryption, which 99% of porn DVDs do not.

So, don't come here and talk bullshit about changing the topic.

I am using that link as reliance because firstly, you asked for it, and secondly, it confirms what I said that it's "fair use" to make a backup copy of your DVD.

You may be a paralegal, but you clearly sucks when it comes to reading and analyzing subjects carefully.

[Mole]

Been awfully quiet in this thread.

Well, I take that your lack of comment is an acknowledgement that you did seriously made an ass of yourself here. :D

Sorry if you thought you'd be able to nail me that easily. ;)

I'll consider this case closed and move on. :cool:

[baddog]

sorry, but I felt since discussion was beginning to bore me, it had to be boring everyone else, plus talking to a wall has never made much sense to me.

better things to do, maybe next time

[Mole]

ROFL!! :D

So much for beeing a "paralegal". And one who can't admit that he has fucked up too.

I just love it when I manage to kick somebody who thinks he can fuck around with me. Especially when it's with his own medicine on his own turf. I thought you were the one who's supposed to be the "law expert" here....

Everybody can see what an ass you've made yourself here, and you know it. So instead of beeing a real man and admit that you were wrong, you just go quiet and hope the thread dies down.

Well, I won't waste my time on such cowards anymore. I've wasted enough time already.

No wonder you have to turn to the porn business to get some decent income since you obviously won't make much money pursuing the legal career.

Speaking of talking to a wall... I think you're the one who's a wall here. A brick wall.

I on the other hand had tried to be wide open as a door and explained everything carefully to you.