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playa
10-01-2001, 06:56 PM
for some of yall that don't know me,,
lets get to know me,,

here is your opportunity to talk to real live webmaster,,hehe,,

i will be open to answer only 2 questions for FREE!!!


hurry up this offer won't last

playa
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battuss
10-01-2001, 07:21 PM
I tried but your not even online.
:)

playa
10-01-2001, 08:14 PM
you can post here if you like

battuss
10-01-2001, 08:16 PM
Nah, nevermind :)

playa
10-01-2001, 08:17 PM
there might be a slight delay,,due it being monday night football

Tam
10-01-2001, 09:00 PM
Ok I will bite simply because I don't know you very well and I like to get to know people around me........

I want to know how you got started in this mess and what led you to where yu are today in the Adult Industry.

I love knowing what guides people in the directions and paths they choose to take. I am a people person mysefl. So talk to me...... let them all watch football....... LOL

playa
10-01-2001, 09:22 PM
Question #1 from TAM

i started back in 1997,,, that is the same time i bought my firt Packard bell PC 133 mhz with 1.2 gig harddrive...after a few short weeks i got introduced to the internet,,,i was amazed,,, then i wanted learn how i could make money from it,,,
first i started the main stream market by lookin into MLM and all the other crap proggies,,,

it was a joke,,never made a dime,,,then one day while surfering porn pictures on a free host,,,it had a link that says build your own porn site for FREE,,, off course i signed up,,,
Got me book called
"how to build a web page in a weekend"
found out a good sponser called "XPICS"
and well the rest as they say was history :)

BruceM
10-01-2001, 11:01 PM
If you HAD to choose, who would you go down on, Rosie O'Donnell, Rita McNeill, or Rosanne Barr?

CeKilleR
10-02-2001, 03:55 AM
lol
its funny how people get into this biz. but your story is booorriinng ;)

i would be interested in other guys' storys. anybody willing to write down?

battuss
10-02-2001, 08:18 AM
I was about the first in my area that was on the net. On my old 386 with windows 3.11. And i still hate myself that i didnt register any .com's back then, everything was available at that time :(
Shit shit shit!

Tam
10-02-2001, 11:53 AM
Playa..... yours is not much different than mine I guess..... LOL Thanks for sharing that.

Mine is pretty simple too actually... I started playing with computers on a Commodore 64, anyone remember those? Or did I just show my age? I took a programming course, I got all A's in it but it was boring to me, so I quit...... I went thru the 8088's, 286, 386 and then landed me a 486 in 96 and found the net..... somehow I got addicted to the internet in a not so positive way, spending over 200 hours a month in a chathouse. Had a breakdown.... you name it.

My fascination for the internet and computers didn't go away so I decided to make something positive from it. Mind you in all this time, I had NEVER surfed a porn site, never watched very many porn movies, just never was into all that, they embarrassed me to tears. BUT one night in July of 99, we seen a thing on TV where this couple was making a fortune showing their nude videos and all this time I was a stay at home mom watching my hubby struggle to pay bills but hell bent on not leaving my kids in a daycare, so he asked me if I could run porn sites.

I knew a little html but that was about it, but I wanted so desperately to raise my kids and make money too so we talked about it for a week, I talked to my close friends and my oldest kids to make sure they knew what I was thinking and see if they had ANY problems with it....... no one did so I started....... and when I started I was only about targeting women, I never spent money on content and to this day have spent VERY little...... I played a "I showed you mine, now you show me yours" game and men started sending their pics in in droves, and then women did ............ sooo...... here I am.........

Boring I know, but that is my story and I am sticking to it. lol

Tam

Smitty
10-02-2001, 12:12 PM
XPICS, man those were the days. 18 cents a click. I was with them for about 8 months, getting my $2500 check every Monday. Amazing. And then a little thing called chargebacks took over and it was goodnight for XPICS and goodnight to all of our fat checks.

Jeff Smith
ICQ#: 7127736

playa
10-02-2001, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by CeKilleR:
<STRONG>lol
its funny how people get into this biz. but your story is booorriinng ;)

i would be interested in other guys' storys. anybody willing to write down?</STRONG>

well tell me a better story,,lol

toker
10-02-2001, 01:37 PM
I would tell my story but it might fill Tims drive considering its a long one that originated on IRC.. Lets just say my idol was the owner of the great xxxpasswords.com for many years.

Filipe
10-02-2001, 02:23 PM
It all started when I got an email from Geocities telling me that I could earn a comission by selling books from Amazon :)
(I still get a few bucks once in a while from the sites I did for Amazon and CDnow, hehe)

A few months later I decided to try promoting adult sites, but never had any success. Untill one day I ended up at cyclejerk.com and saw the light :D

Groovy
10-02-2001, 02:36 PM
playa is doing some image building :D

you probably red the thread about snow and vip very well right :)

well, atleast ya tell some stuff.

i wanna ask how much traffic you get daily, and how much that makes ya.

and be honest as you promised!!!
;)

playa
10-02-2001, 02:41 PM
groovy why must you think i have other motives,,,LOL

i keeping real man,,,, :)

no personal questions unless its asking me how big my dick is,,,
and the answer is two fists together and a mouthful

Rockys Porn
10-02-2001, 02:49 PM
you took the words right out of my mouth Smitty

ahhh, those were the days

playa
10-02-2001, 03:04 PM
your not ole school webmaster
until you were caught as cheater
with cyberthrill

sandman
10-02-2001, 03:08 PM
I think everyone got fucked by cyberthrill

nic
10-02-2001, 03:19 PM
here ya go, heres a question for you all.

i'm looking for some cash, i need some money. I guess i'm going to post some galleries. What is converting the best ? What is worth the bandwidth ? What are some good sponsors? ibill or ccbill? Where to submit to and where is a waste of time submitting to?

Thanks,
nic

playa
10-02-2001, 04:33 PM
nic those questions will take years to answer

basschick
10-02-2001, 06:12 PM
wow, playa - for FREE???

damn, dude, it's our lucky day - how much money do you make a month? how many hits do you get a day? what dialer do you use? what script should i use to make my site grow? what niche converts the best? do you think that a blind sponsor that pays 12 cents a front page click will really pay? *LOL*

i didn't get fucked by cyberthrill - i signed up, but it just seemed too good to be true. i got ripped a new one by IEG - remember them? sent us a check for 3 cents once! i had their banner on a page that got 1200 se hits a day in 1997 - they sure got me good!

did anyone old skewl ever promote assmeat? 3 cents per front page hit - the banner cracked me up!

and remember amateur hardcore? they were around before xpics! ah, those were the days... we used to make $1500 every two weeks from adultcheck by sending the crappiest traffic you can imagine to the a site we made when we didn't know any better ;-)

Muff
10-02-2001, 06:28 PM
Playa, wheres the g-spot man? :p

nic
10-02-2001, 07:15 PM
ok, i guess my questions will go unanswered
this is fucking false advertising, ahah

blind
10-02-2001, 08:04 PM
"I'm looking for the clitoris. Can you help me find the clitoris?"

Okay heres a real question. I just launched a super-clean tgp. I got gallery traffic coming in, I have a few small exits, but is there another GOOD way to get good feeding traffic to it? It grows every day, and maybe I'm just impatient, but any advice would "kick-ass" ;)

http
10-02-2001, 08:49 PM
Hi Playa why don't you come over I got a lot of questions for ya
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=009536

Or wait I could ask them here too: First off: HOW MUCH Do YOU MAKE. $$$ you know what I mean haha? I mean this is one of the most important questions isn't it? I'd like to know whether this biz is still worth it. Everyone keeps their mouth shut when it comes to this but after all I am going to have to hide what I am doing against my neighbors, friends etc.. well you got the picture, so is it WORTH it? My life will be fucked in a way forever won't it? Is it worth it, still? It certainly should be more outcome per hour than a regular job for a guy with regular education level.

And where should I start with, AVS, TGP, search Engines...? TGP's suck don't they?

Thanks man you your free advice!


:confused: :( :confused: :( :confused: :( :confused: :(

playa
10-02-2001, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by nic:
<STRONG>here ya go, heres a question for you all.

i'm looking for some cash, i need some money. I guess i'm going to post some galleries. What is converting the best ?

currently for me i get more sign ups promoting an AVS,,, What i have learned is that you send mad traffic to paysites and you might not get a sale but you made of made a sale for the sponser on their exit console,,,so what i did was eliminate the middle man,,and send traffic to an AVS while using my own consoles


What is worth the bandwidth ?
If you haven't mastered the art of selling then it is not worth it,, practice making galleries and promote them on your own sites,,,tweak them until it sales,,,once you find out,,,then start making more galleries and promote them


What are some good sponsors? ibill or ccbill? Where to submit to and where is a waste of time submitting to?

sorry only two questions

</STRONG>

null

BruceM
10-02-2001, 09:06 PM
Originally posted by BruceM:
<STRONG>If you HAD to choose, who would you go down on, Rosie O'Donnell, Rita McNeill, or Rosanne Barr?</STRONG>

I'm still waiting for your answer!

playa
10-02-2001, 09:07 PM
i'm looking for some cash, i need some money. I guess i'm going to post some galleries. What is converting the best ?

currently for me i get more sign ups promoting an AVS,,, What i have learned is that you send mad traffic to paysites and you might not get a sale but you made of made a sale for the sponser on their exit console,,,so what i did was eliminate the middle man,,and send traffic to an AVS while using my own consoles


What is worth the bandwidth ?
If you haven't mastered the art of selling then it is not worth it,, practice making galleries and promote them on your own sites,,,tweak them until it sales,,,once you find out,,,then start making more galleries and promote them


What are some good sponsors? ibill or ccbill? Where to submit to and where is a waste of time submitting to?

sorry only two questions

http
10-02-2001, 09:09 PM
Hey Playa what about my questions? I'm waiting 5 minutes already this ain't "free" anymore. I'll give you 5 stars if you anywer them come on don't be a faggot.

:rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes: :mad: :rolleyes: :mad:

playa
10-02-2001, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by Muff:
<STRONG>Playa, wheres the g-spot man? :p</STRONG>


easy brugh,,, take it from a real pimp :)

1. insert your fore finger into the pussy

2. turn your hand until your palm is up towards the ceiling

3. bend your finger slightly around 65 degrees

4. rub in circle motions gently

thats it :) thats where it is :)

playa
10-02-2001, 09:12 PM
Originally posted by BruceM:
<STRONG>If you HAD to choose, who would you go down on, Rosie O'Donnell, Rita McNeill, or Rosanne Barr?</STRONG>

are you kidding? i wouldn't even want to be in the audience,, i rather watch lifetime channel for 48 hours straight

playa
10-02-2001, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by blind:
<STRONG>"I'm looking for the clitoris. Can you help me find the clitoris?"

Okay heres a real question. I just launched a super-clean tgp. I got gallery traffic coming in, I have a few small exits, but is there another GOOD way to get good feeding traffic to it? It grows every day, and maybe I'm just impatient, but any advice would "kick-ass" ;)</STRONG>

if you don't know where the clit is then don't worry about it's not that important,,i mean who cares if she doesn't gets hers aslong as you get yours right?


if your defination of super clean is like the thehun sites then only thing is patience,,,it might take you years to get a nice steady flow of traffic,,,the only other way i feel is that you can start learning how to make feeder sites in lieu of gallery posting

playa
10-02-2001, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by http789:
<STRONG>Hi Playa why don't you come over I got a lot of questions for ya
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=009536

Or wait I could ask them here too: First off: HOW MUCH Do YOU MAKE. $$$ you know what I mean haha? I mean this is one of the most important questions isn't it? I'd like to know whether this biz is still worth it. Everyone keeps their mouth shut when it comes to this but after all I am going to have to hide what I am doing against my neighbors, friends etc.. well you got the picture, so is it WORTH it? My life will be fucked in a way forever won't it? Is it worth it, still? It certainly should be more outcome per hour than a regular job for a guy with regular education level.

And where should I start with, AVS, TGP, search Engines...? TGP's suck don't they?

Thanks man you your free advice!


:confused: :( :confused: :( :confused: :( :confused: :(</STRONG>


1. to be perfectly honest with you alot times people don't tell you how much they make is that it ain't that much to be proud of... some people can say they make 20 sign ups a day but do you believe them? the same goes for traffic,, they never have what they say they have..
if you wanna start in this biz then basically your like 3 years too late,,,its like 100 times harder now,,, don't expect to get anything out of it,,, just keep it as a hobby and you won't get frustrated as much..

2. start with a good free host,, sign with a sponser that offers free content and just practice the art of webmastering

WETDOG
10-02-2001, 09:23 PM
Just saying this is a great off topic from the crappy bullshit i have read the past few days.. good Job Playa ;)

playa
10-02-2001, 09:24 PM
Originally posted by basschick:
<STRONG>wow, playa - for FREE???

damn, dude, it's our lucky day - how much money do you make a month? how many hits do you get a day? what dialer do you use? what script should i use to make my site grow? what niche converts the best? do you think that a blind sponsor that pays 12 cents a front page click will really pay? *LOL*

i didn't get fucked by cyberthrill - i signed up, but it just seemed too good to be true. i got ripped a new one by IEG - remember them? sent us a check for 3 cents once! i had their banner on a page that got 1200 se hits a day in 1997 - they sure got me good!

did anyone old skewl ever promote assmeat? 3 cents per front page hit - the banner cracked me up!

and remember amateur hardcore? they were around before xpics! ah, those were the days... we used to make $1500 every two weeks from adultcheck by sending the crappiest traffic you can imagine to the a site we made when we didn't know any better ;-)</STRONG>

well you been doing this longer than me

playa
10-02-2001, 09:38 PM
Originally posted by WETDOG:
<STRONG>Just saying this is a great off topic from the crappy bullshit i have read the past few days.. good Job Playa ;)</STRONG>

appreciate it :)

Snoopy
10-02-2001, 09:54 PM
I've been in this business for years. I Remember the good old days when Xpics was around, back when ClickCash offered the 2.5 per unique program, I thought I was in heaven when they offered 4 cents for that one site. Back when Hypercash had the good 4 cents per unique, and when Serge was the basic King of porn.

I recall days when I could post 1 picture to PicPost and make tons of cash. I remember one day where I got 3 pics posted to PicPost.com and PicturePost.com and made $800 I could not believe it, I made $800 with 3 banner links to SwedishBucks.

I also remember my first website hosted on tripod, I made it with a couple banners and 200-300 textlinks to free porn sites, I made 4-5 sales a day by just telling people about it on IRC etc.

Back in the day the only kind of traffic you couldn't convert is anyone without a credit card. Back when people were "unsure" of the net, they bought better now, but I guess where there thousands of people promoting porn, its harder to convert. Market is very satuerated.

Anyone remember years ago just sitting at the Ynot board? I used to live there :D

http
10-03-2001, 03:21 AM
"...if you wanna start in this biz then basically your like 3 years too late,,,its like 100 times harder now,,, ..."


That was my impression too. Like 100 times? Ouuch...

playa
10-03-2001, 12:56 PM
no more questions?

Dcorp
10-03-2001, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Tam:
<STRONG>Playa..... yours is not much different than mine I guess..... LOL Thanks for sharing that.

Mine is pretty simple too actually... I started playing with computers on a Commodore 64, anyone remember those? Or did I just show my age? I took a programming course, I got all A's in it but it was boring to me, so I quit...... I went thru the 8088's, 286, 386 and then landed me a 486 in 96 and found the net..... somehow I got addicted to the internet in a not so positive way, spending over 200 hours a month in a chathouse. Had a breakdown.... you name it.

My fascination for the internet and computers didn't go away so I decided to make something positive from it. Mind you in all this time, I had NEVER surfed a porn site, never watched very many porn movies, just never was into all that, they embarrassed me to tears. BUT one night in July of 99, we seen a thing on TV where this couple was making a fortune showing their nude videos and all this time I was a stay at home mom watching my hubby struggle to pay bills but hell bent on not leaving my kids in a daycare, so he asked me if I could run porn sites.

I knew a little html but that was about it, but I wanted so desperately to raise my kids and make money too so we talked about it for a week, I talked to my close friends and my oldest kids to make sure they knew what I was thinking and see if they had ANY problems with it....... no one did so I started....... and when I started I was only about targeting women, I never spent money on content and to this day have spent VERY little...... I played a "I showed you mine, now you show me yours" game and men started sending their pics in in droves, and then women did ............ sooo...... here I am.........

Boring I know, but that is my story and I am sticking to it. lol

Tam</STRONG>


Tam : commodore 64 was my favourite and first computer in the past . 8 years ago :)

magnatique
10-03-2001, 03:01 PM
how I started? I wanted 20$/month to pay for an extram movie theater ticket :)

so I used cyberthrill... unfortunately, I was cheating them ROFL...

so I decided to do celebs site, cuz I loved celebs... so I went around, and asked like 20 guys if they made any money to pay for the server fees... since I was hosting on geocities... nobody answered.... but Gerco Marsh... the biggest Celeb guy back then...

he also even went to the point of chatting with me, and telling me I shouldn't use Xpics, but a celeb sponsor... and that freehost wasn't gonna bring me anywhere, that I should have a host... so he gave me hosting in exchange of a banner for 1000 hits a month or something ;)

first month I made 400$, second 2500, then it took off... and went down a few years after hehe... now it's WAY DOWN , but hey, it'll be back up one day :)

I guess I got lucky and could pay myself more than 1 more movie ticket/month hehe

IntheBlue
10-03-2001, 04:29 PM
playa, you only do dialers now?

All, comments like 'you are too late' for this business is like saying Gateway started making computers too late...same applies to the cell phone business.

The only difference is that the money is not going to come to you, you have to go out and find it (note how everyone states that they really made money on accident when they first started). If you know how to do that, then there are no limits to the profit potential.

battuss
10-03-2001, 04:41 PM
Bah, i read this shit everywhere.
I started 14 months ago and now i earn alot of money. If you read, try, read, try and read some more and your not stupid then you still can make a shitload of money on the web.
making another tgp to start wont bring you shit tho.

smut pimp
10-03-2001, 04:44 PM
try not to doo what everyone else is doing.

try to find a market were there is not mutch competition.

playa
10-03-2001, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by IntheBlue:
<STRONG>playa, you only do dialers now?

All, comments like 'you are too late' for this business is like saying Gateway started making computers too late...same applies to the cell phone business.

The only difference is that the money is not going to come to you, you have to go out and find it (note how everyone states that they really made money on accident when they first started). If you know how to do that, then there are no limits to the profit potential.</STRONG>

i won't argue with you about that,,,
but 99% of newbies that start think its easy money,,,
anyone thats been in the biz for more than 3 years will tell you all you needed was to make a banner farm page and send 1k to it and make an easy $400.00

if we did poll on all the members on this board out of the 3k there's prolly only 200 or so thats still in the biz..

playa
10-03-2001, 05:55 PM
Originally posted by battuss:
<STRONG>Bah, i read this shit everywhere.
I started 14 months ago and now i earn alot of money. If you read, try, read, try and read some more and your not stupid then you still can make a shitload of money on the web.
making another tgp to start wont bring you shit tho.</STRONG>

tell me how you was in the first 6 months?
was tough wasn't it?

but now that your over the humb its just smooth sailing,,,thats my point

battuss
10-03-2001, 06:35 PM
True, i didnt make alot of money the first months, just enough to make a living but what im trying to say its not impossible to start a good running web business nowadays.

tinatina
10-03-2001, 07:51 PM
Hey guys! i just started my own amature site, and this is my first time at the boards, but I needed some constructive critism. I also wanted a recomendation on some good traffic. Any suggestions are appreciated! Thanks, love!

:D :p :) :D :p :) www.tinatina.com (http://www.tinatina.com)

playa
10-03-2001, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by tinatina:
<STRONG>Hey guys! i just started my own amature site, and this is my first time at the boards, but I needed some constructive critism. I also wanted a recomendation on some good traffic. Any suggestions are appreciated! Thanks, love!

:D :p :) :D :p :) www.tinatina.com (http://www.tinatina.com)</STRONG>

first of all that is a real nice site,,
but your pictures are way to big in size
some of them are over 100k,,,,that java pop up picture is not a good idea,,,

doing a paysite first is really a bad move because you have learned the ropes yet,,
when your running a paysite you gonna relize that intial sign ups are easy,,the hardest thing is maintaining membership retention,,

surfer like to see hard pics and lot of movie feeds,,,and stuff like that can be expensive...

as far as traffic,,,the easiest is promote some of your original content on galleries and submit them to TGP's which is the easiest...

once you get a good membership retension of at least 3 months average then you can start promoting it to other webmasters for like 50/50 sign ups,,

IntheBlue
10-03-2001, 10:20 PM
Tinatina,

nice design, but i would specifically state whether members get to see full nudity or not and to what degree.

playa
10-04-2001, 02:36 PM
last day for free advice