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Barbarian
10-19-2001, 05:03 PM
These guys are offering dedicated servers for under $1 a gig. This is the cheapest rates I have seen yet. Anyone have experience with them?

D0b3rman
10-19-2001, 11:48 PM
LOL i was about to ask that yes plz guys give some experiance youve had with them...

wildwall
10-20-2001, 03:31 AM
I can get you for 2 per gig.....you get what you pay for......you need cheap transpertation i have a 1981 pinto ..ready to go with new paint job.....hmm under a buck .....they must talk between office with cans and string.......heheh email me at cgu@ipeg.com

justsexxx
10-20-2001, 03:49 AM
wildwall , please stop promoting your hosting comp. The question is, do you know Swiftwill.com

Andre

Instant
10-20-2001, 05:12 AM
if your after cgi forget swiftwill.. for galleries they are fine... setup takes weeks though

HeLiS
10-20-2001, 05:27 AM
$2/gig for dedicated is the same as about $680/mbps which is a freakin joke most companys charge $300/mbps which is around .88cents a gig so buy mbps and no gig as you will save lots

BTW 1mbps is about 340gig of transfer so most tgp posters could save mad cash if they buy in bulk :)

or a good i think is 3-4 tgp posters getting a dedicated machine paying per mbps could get an real cheap per mbps price because they would pre pay so much

just my 2 cents

Originally posted by wildwall:
<STRONG>I can get you for 2 per gig.....you get what you pay for......you need cheap transpertation i have a 1981 pinto ..ready to go with new paint job.....hmm under a buck .....they must talk between office with cans and string.......heheh email me at cgu@ipeg.com</STRONG>

D0b3rman
10-20-2001, 12:25 PM
Setup takes weeks you say? why is that?

Mole
10-20-2001, 12:50 PM
Well, I've also talked with the guy running it on ICQ for over a week now and it seems like he's running a one man show or something.

So if somebody needs hosting, he'll got to arrange a box etc., which probably takes time if you're doing it solo.

But for me, I don't care much, because if everything runs smoothly and things are set up correctly, what's the need of tech support?

I completely agree that $2 per gig is a total rip off. I hope that more and more hosts will offer lower prices so the competition forces these greedy people to lower their prices.

All I see is that they tout excellent tech support blah blah. If things are running the way they should, there's no need for tech support!

It's like paying for insurance against accident which *might* happen. What if nothing happens?

Yeah, you might loose some money on any downtime which might happen, but with the money you save on hosting, I have no problem to take the risk.

Sure, if price differences are very small, like 10-20 cents more per gig, I might go for a more stable host and which responds to your requests quickly. But at twice as much? No way!

Coke
10-20-2001, 01:21 PM
Originally posted by HeLiS:
<STRONG>$2/gig for dedicated is the same as about $680/mbps which is a freakin joke most companys charge $300/mbps which is around .88cents a gig so buy mbps and no gig as you will save lots

BTW 1mbps is about 340gig of transfer so most tgp posters could save mad cash if they buy in bulk :)

or a good i think is 3-4 tgp posters getting a dedicated machine paying per mbps could get an real cheap per mbps price because they would pre pay so much

just my 2 cents

</STRONG>

This depends on the way the bandwidth is measured. If you pay by the meg at the 95th percentile you could end up paying much more than if you paid at a per GB rate.
Also, a per GB rate is more transparent to the customer which is the reason why we only charge at a per GB rate.

JasonB
10-20-2001, 02:33 PM
I've had a virtual account with swiftwill.com for about a month and just got a dedicated server with them because they've gone WAY, WAY out of their way to help me.

I have another server on maxim.net which has no tech support whatsoever and last Sunday I got hacked. Some guy got access to my server and was making folders of pics that I couldn't delete, even as "root". He was hotlinking these pics into spam emails and I was getting complaints and threats from all over the place because my url was on the emails. Since maxim has no customer service and I'm no unix guru, I was fucked.

I just mentioned this hack to swiftwill's tech, "dweeks" on icq, and he had no problem helping me. ...keep in mind this is on a server that he has absolutely nothing to do with. That's cooler than any tech I've ever come across.

If you don't know unix/apache like the back of your hand, I don't advise getting a server with no tech support. I get around fairly well on the command line, but when something like this happens... my only other option was to pay $100-$200/hour to get tech support.

I've been really happy with swiftwill. Not only because they helped me when they had no obligation to, but also because it's by a long shot the cheapest hosting I've seen.

As far as setup... it didnt take me "weeks". ...only a few days.

And as for cgi... they allow cgi, they just need to know what your script does, for security reasons.

Rui
10-20-2001, 02:47 PM
Yeah, it seems there is only one person behind swifwill, so that means that some time your help may take longer!

also i've been talking to dweeks (swifwill) and I can't say I heard the kind of stuff I like, as for the accounts, he told me several times that he got lots of accounts on backlog!

JasonB
10-20-2001, 03:50 PM
I dont think of it as a bad thing only having one employee. Every other good host that I've used has been a one man show:

bigfast - Paul
bphosting - Matt
Janey - Todd

All three of those have great customer service, a ton of accounts, and are (for the most part) a one man show. ...of course, Swiftwill is a ton cheaper. All you really need to run a good host is one awesome tech guy. ...a billing person is a plus too. (Janey has a billing person)
I dont actually know for sure that swiftwill is only one person. ...could be more. Dweeks is the only guy I've talked to tho'.

I've used 3 other hosting companies (that I wont mention) that I've had BAD customer service with all seem to be a big companies with many employees

Instant
10-20-2001, 03:52 PM
forget about the cgi, i talked to dweeks and it seems i mis-understood the situation

i highly reccomend swiftwill for hosting

especially for your galleries

Instant
10-20-2001, 03:54 PM
damnit

i meen forget about what i said about cgi

it all works fine etc. etc.

Mole
10-20-2001, 04:09 PM
I'd prefer a host where you can actually talk to somebody who can make decisions instead of getting to a corporation and your mails forwarded endlessly to the "correct" person.

I think we need to let people be more aware that there's actually excellent hosts out there with reasonable prices around 1$ per gig.

That way it'll hopefully put more pressure on those hosts which are charging $2 per gig or more and sitting on their asses and counting the profit they're getting.

I think they're probably just waiting for this thread to die off and dissapear, so they can continue jumping on threads where people are asking for hosts as usual and hope they'll never find out about cheaper competitors.

Barbarian
10-22-2001, 08:05 AM
Hey guys. Thanks for all your posts. I think I'll try them out. Their prices can't be beat. As far as the comments about "you get what you pay for". I think thats a lot of bull when it comes to the cost of bandwidth. I've tried some of these more expensive hosts and was very disappointed. Their service was often shit. Usually support handled by some kid getting $10-12 an hour and really don't know whats going on except routine stuff. Like everything else in the computer industry bandwidth prices are going down down down. So its about time the average webmaster can get the benefit of it.

basschick
10-22-2001, 08:15 AM
jasonb - todd may be the main tech you'll talk to at janey, but they're not a one-man show. what about janey, steph and sharon? and i HAVE had other tech help there.

Yassen
10-22-2001, 11:13 AM
Swiftwill is the shit :)
Everything is great about this host
The only thing that is not so good, as some people mentioned here, is that dweeks tries to run the whole company by himself.
I really think he needs to get his shit together and hire some people

Hypo
10-22-2001, 11:14 AM
Originally posted by Coke:
<STRONG>

This depends on the way the bandwidth is measured. If you pay by the meg at the 95th percentile you could end up paying much more than if you paid at a per GB rate.
Also, a per GB rate is more transparent to the customer which is the reason why we only charge at a per GB rate.</STRONG>

How is 95th percentile more than per GB? I used to think they come up almost the same.

dplaymax
11-18-2001, 08:49 PM
SPAM!

[ 19 November 2001: Message edited by: Tim ]