SmutCash Terms

[TSmutcash]

Smutcash Terms states that we have the right to change the program at any time.

We sent out an email to all accounts letting them know that your account will be moved over to the
per signup program.. We will no longer pay on perclick traffic.. All account were paid out on all sales..

The webmasters that are coming to these boards had "0" sales and will not get paid until they reach our $50 mark.
The terms are clearly stated from our join page and you must check the box that you read these terms..

Now, Eroticweb.. We asked you to verify your traffic,, a simple request.. You then came back and said your traffic
is coming from your freehost website.. We then go this website and it tells the internet that this website is under construction..
How can you send traffic when there is no website ???

Is see webmasters that Post about how we do not respond to emails,, I will gladly post all the responses to the emails her if you like..

We are fair, but the cheaters we will not Pay !!!

[candidpublishinginc]

Hmmm....I don't think now would be a good time to do this.

I would suggest getting your money from epoch and use a different cc processor because your reputation is going down the tubes fast.

[Unknown]

EroticWebs sends traffic from their ads on hosted sites and not their frontpage you retard.

[shane]

wheres my VIP dialer money???

[TSmutcash]

Candid, The program was changed 2 months ago.
This is not something new..

The problem is the same few webmasters are still trying to believe that our terms are just not correct..

As far as processors you are correct and we have changed to another comapany.

[ComaToast]

TSmutcash are you Tyler?

[Unknown]

Originally posted by ComaToast:
<STRONG>TSmutcash are you Tyler?</STRONG>

Yes, he is.

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by TSmutcash:
[QB]Candid, The program was changed 2 months ago.
This is not something new..

The problem is the same few webmasters are still trying to believe that our terms are just not correct..QB]


Not sure what you're referring to there. I only made on statement about the epoch processor you used.

You should have looked into their payment history before using them. It's common knowledge that epoch is slow as shit with payments, and you gotta have a lot of cash upfront.

Hopefully you'll get paid in full by them so you can restore integrity into your program.

Also if I were you, I would have just been upfront with webmasters with the epoch situation and NOT used VIP Dialer's money.

VIP dialer was a cash cow, plain and simple. You should have left it alone and just made a statement to your smut cash webmasters that you were getting screwed by epoch.

[diesel]

Originally posted by TSmutcash:
<STRONG>
We are fair, but the cheaters we will not Pay !!!</STRONG>

So you are the tyler guy that owes me 8k$ for vip mins??? What de fuck :mad:

[ComaToast]

http://seafoods.hypermart.net/images/cookie_.jpg

Ppl have been accusing you (Tyler from Smutcash) of nasty things. From your
post here it's obvious you read this board. A non-response to ones name being
tossed around, in an extremely negative way, can only mean two things.
(1) no defense
(2) lawyer said to say nothing

[TSmutcash]

I respond to those who use a real username that one can associate with..

Your name,, I cant seem to gather any info from.

[mr man]

tyler you going to explain to everyone whats going on why you haven't paid anyone for vip dialer, why your bouncing checks all over the world and such? I think everyone here has a right to know. Since your here posting, your obviously ready to make a statement, so lets hear it.

[bitz]

sounds like candid may know something......

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by bitz:
<STRONG>sounds like candid may know something......</STRONG>

All I know is that smut cash was using epoch, and epoch is slow as shit when it comes to paying.

Thus smutcash ran out of capital.

If I were Tyler, I wouldn't have used VIP dialer's revenue. Instead, I would have been upfront with my webmasters and told them the situation with epoch. That's what maxcash did when they had FTC trouble. Well....maxcash wasn't THAT upfront...but they did a fairly good job with PR.

[Rodent]

I am curious to where this topic came from. The latest shit is that smutcash is bouncing checks and fucking VIP by taking their revenue. I think more people are wanting answers to this then your shitty per click program which from whats been floating around I wouldnt expect to get paid from.
Webmasters do yourself a favor and use a real perclick like candid/offshore/ap/nexcash and get fucking paid.

[Due]

Originally posted by TSmutcash:
<STRONG>Smutcash Terms states that we have the right to change the program at any time.

We sent out an email to all accounts letting them know that your account will be moved over to the
per signup program.. We will no longer pay on perclick traffic.. All account were paid out on all sales..

The webmasters that are coming to these boards had "0" sales and will not get paid until they reach our $50 mark.
The terms are clearly stated from our join page and you must check the box that you read these terms..

Now, Eroticweb.. We asked you to verify your traffic,, a simple request.. You then came back and said your traffic
is coming from your freehost website.. We then go this website and it tells the internet that this website is under construction..
How can you send traffic when there is no website ???

Is see webmasters that Post about how we do not respond to emails,, I will gladly post all the responses to the emails her if you like..

We are fair, but the cheaters we will not Pay !!!</STRONG>

Good.
Post here in Public why I have not been paid. ID# 7069 in the GIB stats

[cable53]

My account number at your smutcash per signup program is 394228, post here why I haven't got paid either.

[The Homephotographer]

@ Tyler/SmutCash,

First this; I`m not telling you how to run your business but i`m wondering how did SmutCash build credit all these years since SmutCash never reply to emails!
Why can`t we contact you in any way?
Second; there will be always webmasters who will cheat you but most of us are decent guys working their tales off promoting SmutCash and what do they get in return??
Webmaster aren`t your enemies!!
A little support from your site would be appreciated and if we make a mistake or mess things up...TELL US!
Correct us and make us earn more money for you.
Don`t call us cheaters right away.
If we really screw things up end our accounts and notify us that will be fair!
Third and most important; SmutCash owes me $1600.
$480 over august
$1120 over september
ALL SIGNUPS HAVE DISAPPEARED IN THE NEW STATS! YOU SHOULD CHECK THE OLD STATS!
Now a simple request to SmutCash: have my cheques been sent or are you planning to send them?
If you haven`t i want to know the reason why.
My account 524839
This message was send in an email to SmutCash also: service request is 75
:(

[Rui]

Originally posted by TSmutcash:
[QB]
Now, Eroticweb.. We asked you to verify your traffic,, a simple request.. You then came back and said your traffic
is coming from your freehost website.. We then go this website and it tells the internet that this website is under construction..
How can you send traffic when there is no website ???
[QB]

What a lame excuse, the reason why you saw that message is because I was making working on a new layout for them, the freehost existed way before that, you know it, and lots of people also do!

Also don't tell me you don't got the referrer stats and can't check the direct url where traffic was coming from!

(..)

[diesel]

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc:
<STRONG>

All I know is that smut cash was using epoch, and epoch is slow as shit when it comes to paying.

Thus smutcash ran out of capital.

If I were Tyler, I wouldn't have used VIP dialer's revenue. Instead, I would have been upfront with my webmasters and told them the situation with epoch. That's what maxcash did when they had FTC trouble. Well....maxcash wasn't THAT upfront...but they did a fairly good job with PR.</STRONG>


So Tyler used VIP money for SmutCash payouts???
WHAT DE FUCK :mad:

Tyler I had 2 accounts with VIP
xit10875 and xit7068 and I didnt get money
for 01/08-10/09

[Rui]

Originally posted by diesel:
<STRONG>

So Tyler used VIP money for SmutCash payouts???
WHAT DE FUCK :mad:
</STRONG>

Now he didn't he didn't paid us and he also didn't paid any other webmasters!

[Royaltee_Gee!]

Tyler you scum bag.... I live 30 mins from your offices.. and me and some others might be paying your coward ass a little visit for fucking over VIPdialer.

[tanin]

I don't understand something, are ppl still working with Tyler/SmutCash ?
What the fuck is going on here ? Tyler you are motherfucker, can tell us where is our money that you own !?
Why is this shit posting here ?
The only post that you Tyler can post,that when we will get our money from VIP dialer! :mad:

[mn1]

Hey TSmutcash
What are you talking about, the index was under construction, not our members site, we used your program from 2 month, as our topbanner on our members sites, and no you fucking saying we are cheating.
I still need my 4000$ from you, and after I have seen what you said here on the board.

WILL I contact Intrum Justitia that handle my international Incasso and they will notice you that you have 2 options. 1: pay or 2: a lawsuit will be started against you.

You don't call me a fucking cheater, when it is you there have cheated 50 adult webmaster here on the boards.

If you want to talk to me you can contact me on my icq 56439665


Mads

[ups]

Hey TSmutcash! Make us a favour, let us contact you on icq... please post here your ICQ#
it seems like you in deep troubles here... noone trust you anymore, you owe money to at least 10 webmasters... the only way to come out of this difficult situation with credit is to talk to ppl and send back all the money you owe... otherwise i guess you'll find yourself out of whole adult business!!!

THINK !

[phoneman]

Smutcash does not pay! They owe me since may. They do not respond to email. I have notified many webmaster boards management along with stats access so they can see with their own eyes. Don't buy this crap from Smutcash!~

[gotys]

LOL, looks like tyler just disappeared, too many posts here =) It is difficult to run a sponsor program guys, don't yell at him. Only one out of many sponsors survive. He is already dead. Reputation is what keeps a sponsor in good shape, his is already fucked. Look at MaxCash, they are fucked as well.

[ComaToast]

Originally posted by TSmutcash:
I respond to those who use a real username that one can associate with.

Due GIB # 7069

cable53 SmutCash #394228

The Homephotographer SmutCash #524839

diesel VIP #xit10875 and #xit7068

mn1 icq #56439665

You obviously don't do anything but service your own agenda.
Here is a picture of Tyler Pratt (http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200109/netizens/nz0901_01.shtml).

[theo]

http://www.avnonline.com/issue_images/nz0901_01b.jpg

he looks pretty happy,i guess with so much money everybody would be

[gotys]

Yeah, as I said, his reputation is in shits now. No more cash for that guy.

[phoneman]

His new Mercedes? http://thevmg.com/personal/newbenz021700.jpg

[theo]

where did you find this url bandwidth?

[toker]

Hey SmutFuck give them the money you WANKER!!

I think you guys really should put a class action lawsuite against SmutFuck and split the House and Car between everyone who got ripped..

He has already breeched the contact he had with you by keeping your money and even if he offered to pay right his second you still have the right to take your money and sue his ass anyway!

Get him with no lube and make it hurt real fuckin good!!

Ah hes a scronny fucker too.. I dont believe he was a a personal trainer unless it was training in the use of penile fitness..

I bet he had a pet gerbal as a kid too :p

[Due]

Originally posted by ComaToast:
<STRONG>

Due GIB # 7069

cable53 SmutCash #394228

The Homephotographer SmutCash #524839

diesel VIP #xit10875 and #xit7068

mn1 icq #56439665

You obviously don't do anything but service your own agenda.
Here is a picture of Tyler Pratt (http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200109/netizens/nz0901_01.shtml).</STRONG>

Actually I am :) I handed this over to Intrum Justitia just around 1 week ago and they will handled a lawsuit for me unless he pay everything to me. But don't think there is any reason going screaming on the board about lawsuits before it has actually been settled :)

[shane]

whos Intrum Justitia, and how do i contact them?

[Due]

Originally posted by shane:
<STRONG>whos Intrum Justitia, and how do i contact them?</STRONG>
www.intrum.com (http://www.intrum.com)
They got offices in most part of the world just find the one closest to where you live :)

[Filipe]

GIB told me to not sue Vipdialer yet.

They are trying to resolve the situation and in case they do have to sue they will lead the charge in a class action lawsuit and bring all the webmasters in.

[phoneman]

theo
Little Jerk
Member # 1885

Rate Member
&lt;http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/icons/icon1.gif&gt; posted 07 October 2001 01:20 PM [Profile for theo] [Send New Private Message] [Edit/Delete Post] [Reply With Quote] where did you find this url bandwidth?
http://thevmg.com/

[ComaToast]

Originally posted by Due:
But don't think there is any reason going screaming on the board about
lawsuits before it has actually been settled

Due, I hope you're not confusing me with making writ threats. That was
someone else. I'm just here to push Tyler, Kelly, (or whatever he calls himself)
into doing what he knows is the "right thing".

[toker]

Could it be that maybe Tyler had to make a plane payment??

Maybe he decided to get a new plane more like the one p-diddy owns??

Could it be that he bought a Hummer??

Maybe he went shopping at Vanillia Ices "Extreem Sports" exotic toy store down here in florida??

I dunno but what i do know.. This was dug up and sent to me early today by a webmaster who was screwed by WowCash a while back..

Seems this Tyler SmutFuck has a long history of screwing people and from what i hear you guys have a slim chance at getting one dime back even with a lawyer..

People like him are called "Con Artists" so while you come on AWI bitching about your cash he is playing with his exotic toys..

If the link should happen to go down for any reason i have backups of the video footage and i will have it put up at another location myself. Crooks like this should not go unpunished but i can tell you guys he knows the game very well from what im advised..
http://www.d-moneyshow.com/100archivemisc122000.html

Now spread the fuckin words and let them Ring on every BBS on the fucking internet!!

[phoneman]

Everything you want to know about Smutcash thief: http://www.ynotmasters.com/wm_directory/profiles/kbtoyz.html

[toker]

HaHa so now hes linked to Herbal O?

Dam i would stay the fuck away from there too!!

To bad a director of Marketing cant spell it properly "Marketin"

Hmm he also drags a few others down for claminig affiliation..
KB has reinvented himself in the year 2001 as KBConsults Marketing the BEST SEXTOY STORE ON THE WEB!!! Virtual SEX MALL, and HERBAL O! along with VIVID, XPAYS,HERBALO, and HOMEGROWN

And what the fuck is this shit..
Those I do not enjoy doing business with
» lotechcf Con artist extortionist extraordinaire

[The Homephotographer]

@SmutCash/Tyler

You`ve got mail!

[Digital]

Regarding the Epoch comments... Epoch have just said today that all clients and resellers are going to get “paid in full” for past due processing periods (prior to September 14th). So if it was a cashflow problem, then it should get better, and hopefully vipdialer resellers will see some of their money!

[snow]

Why are you putting Herbalo and kb down... There good people..

[ecomet]

Smutcash bounces checks and fails to pay. At the same time VIP dialer bounces checks and fails to pay. Doesn't seem like a coincidence to me as both programs are supposedly *really* run by the
same people. Snow - you owe me money for VIP dialer so give us the contact info. for these people who stole the money from these programs. Address, phone numbers, names. No excuses - nowhere to hide - let the cat out of the bag. It seems weird to me still that you are making excuses for these people - maybe you have something to hide and YOU own VIP dialer and ran with the cash.

I don't want excuses that Epoch has had problems with their merchant bank. Who fucking cares, what does that have to do with VIP dialer? NOTHING. Snow - Did VIP dialer get paid by the sponsor? Tell us - yes or no. Who was sent the money? Tell us.
When was it sent?

Stop making excuses and deflecting blame - if you are owed 33k and your rep. is going down the tubes fast - why are you making excuses for non payment?

Fess up.

Again, where is our money? Who is ultamtaely resposible for payment with VIP dialer?

Tell the world.

[snow]

Well i'm owed over 30k and if i start bad mouthing then i risk the chance of being paid.. Do you understand that this has me by the balls as well...I heard epoch will be paying smutcash soon. Lets give it timew and sees what happens.. If not i will be more then happy trust me... Im not gonna start doing that just yet... He made a bad mistake and realizes that and who gets blamed me...

Trust me dude i want all you guys paid...

[phoneman]

Responce from Smutcash to Y'not:
"Smut Cash responded to the complaint. This is what they said,

"We moved all accounts over to persignup 3 months ago. All accounts got paid
on Sales only. I dont believe this account received any sales."

If you would like to contact Smut Cash personally, email Tyler at
admin@xitnet.com and he will answer all of your questions. Thanks for your
patience and YNOTmasters considers this complaint closed."

He is a lying con man. Payback is hell.

[salsbury]

you guys do know that a class action suit means that you get very little money, your lawyers get fat, and that's all, right? i think you'd be better off with individual suits.

[The Homephotographer]

When SmutCash moved to their new stats all my signups have disappeared :-(
First there was a link to the old stats on the statspage (all my signups over august and september where still there).
Now the link to the old stats is gone...so have my signups :-(

Tyler why don`t you answer my 7 emails I have sent you?????????? :mad:

[phoneman]

:mad:
Welcome to the club! Stats just kinda disappeared! And they have the nerve to still post here. Smutcash is as good as gone.

[TSmutcash]

Bandwith,Stats are not gone, go look. Do you have an account with us ?

If you noticed we have improved the system to better server you.

Our old system was falling a part and need to be replaced.

If you look now we serve up the banners.
You then can view banner views and compare this to clicks and joins.

This is just like paycouter but instead of getting 5 cents off a counter img.
You get $40 per sale off a Banner img on top of your page.

Take a look at the new system you will like it.

[cable53]

Nice improvements TSmutcash, now you just need to start paying webmasters...

[TSmutcash]

cable send an email, if you have a problem email usually works.

[gotys]

Howcome noone sues this guy?

[ecomet]

Hey Tyler you fucking thief

where is the VIP dialer money - I've sent you 5 e-mails and no aswer

I had 2 checks bouce - when you gonna pay us !!!!!

[cable53]

I already have sent you a lot of mails which you haven't replied to, that's why i'm pissed off. But ok i'll send another one to you right now.

[phoneman]

Tyler- Excuse me but I was in your signup program!And your per click program!Never received a dime! Remember your reply to Y'not that you owed me nothing????

[The Homephotographer]

Tyler told me my august check was sent last week so it will be here next week.
If not I will keep you all informed.
:confused:

[phoneman]

You mean he actually replied to your email? Thats a new one! I would not hold my breath waiting on the check.

[ecomet]

Tyler-

I spoke with Snow again and you still can't reply to any e-mail I send. Snow told me you gotten paid until sept. 9. You own VIP dialer and Smutcash - you even say it in the AVN. I got 2 more checks after sept 9 but not with company VIP dialer on them
and they cleared in the bank.
http://www.avnonline.com/issues/200109/netizens/nz0901_01.shtml


quote:
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“We also have a big dialer program; we call it VIP Dialer,” he continues. “It’s been going strong for eight months now. A dialer program allows you to put up software on any kind of page, and surfers download this software.

So can you please reply to e-mails and re-issue all the checks that bounced.
The checks all say VIP dialer on them
and you own VIP dialer (like you say in AVN) so can you please re-send all checks now. That would be fair to webmasters who checks bounced thank you.

[nic]

tyler, why the fuck don't you answer everyones question and tell us where our god damn money is man? i sent you emails months ago. Why don't you give us all your office number ? That way we can work this out and not have to sue you ?

[Bezel]

I have only one advice for you. Take this fucker to court. If all you guys that complains here do that,he won´t be able run any more scam programs -thats for sure.