Anyone making money?

[gotys]

Hey guys. According to Urchin, I get 250k/day, according to sexlist, I get 90k/day. I am making $3/day. IT pisses me off! Someone please advice me! I need to start making money! My site: http://www.pichunter.com
Thanx

[toker]

Hmm hit me on ICQ 106673404 :)

[shane]

you might wanna check your site in NS..

also for more revinue from your TGP I recommend paygallery.com

[gotys]

I don't have NS installed on my computer, I am afraid of NetScape, that thing is evil and should be burried forever. I don't understand what's taking so long. This evil should of die long time ago.

[salsbury]

when urchin says 250k/day do you mean to your front page or to all pages?

[gotys]

Front Page. As for Pageviews, I get around 2 million per day

[Unknown]

You make $3 for 90-250k a day? OMG, what is this business coming to...

[Dawgy]

urchin has issues. it always showed i was getting more than i think i was. even so, with a 10-15k tgp i was getting more then $3 a day.

try a new layout for your site.

[Hypo]

90K should get you at least $50 a day I think, possible more. I dont see much advertising on your main page. Just put in an Amateurpages clickpic there for starters, should get you a bit more than $3. How many bookmarks have you got?

[gotys]

Oh I have about 2000 bookmarks/hour

Damn it, AmateurPages is what makes me those $3/day. According to sexlist I get 90k. Guys, someone please help me. This is rediculous. If I just put a regular banner on front page, I get around 1000 cliks a day on that banner, that doesn't generate much revenue with today's ratios =(

[The Chosen]

using amateurpages is not good idea
you can even make 100$ but it's all virtual because those bastards will not pay you ! :mad:

[mike007]

if i were you , i could make min 50$ per 1 day with this traffic!

[mn1]

Hi gotys.
Pls. contact me I will help you ;)

Regards
Martin
Icq: 114804570

[bramdaman]

Very simple solution. Sell some listings.
Ask like 100$ per 1 gallerie a day.

another thing is, promote a good paysite which matches your categories. I personally like teenflood (http://www.teenflood.com/cgi-bin/revshare/agents.cgi?bdejong) for teen categories.

[elron]

Originally posted by gotys:
<STRONG>Oh I have about 2000 bookmarks/hour

Damn it, AmateurPages is what makes me those $3/day. According to sexlist I get 90k. Guys, someone please help me. This is rediculous. If I just put a regular banner on front page, I get around 1000 cliks a day on that banner, that doesn't generate much revenue with today's ratios =(</STRONG>

From what it looks like , you are making 0$ per day . Amateur pages are not paying , and will accuse you with CP as they do with everyone .

[LazyQuest]

contact me...

67567305

[Terrance11]

use a good sponsor like www.dialerheaven.com (http://www.dialerheaven.com)

Very good hold times :)

[quotealex]

Lol.Somehow I just knew people would propose the use of dialers to make banks. :D

[WETDOG]

Originally posted by bramdaman:
<STRONG>Very simple solution. Sell some listings.
Ask like 100$ per 1 gallerie a day.

another thing is, promote a good paysite which matches your categories. I personally like teenflood (http://www.teenflood.com/cgi-bin/revshare/agents.cgi?bdejong) for teen categories.</STRONG>

Well who is going to pay $100 per day for a gallery listing? that is crazy and i dont know of anyone charging that much! worldsex does not even charge $100 oer day.

:confused:

[Toni]

Who made that gif(logo) for you?

[Kappy]

Originally posted by gotys:
<STRONG>Hey guys. According to Urchin, I get 250k/day. I am making $3/day. IT pisses me off!</STRONG>

I don't understand this.
According to the stats on your site you have 142,802 Galleries with freepix and movies on your site. On an average of 10 pix per gallery you have more than 1.4 million pics and movies you give your surfers for free. For what should the user pay anymore ???
For a paysite with 1 million pics and 1 million movies? For little better quality and some liveshows? I mean how many pics does a surfer need to jerk off? The free content on your site is far more than anybody needs to have fun.
It doesn't refer only to you gotys, but what did you expect from a big ALL FREE site?

[phogirl007]

How about putting up ads instead of the pichunter logo on the category pages? I mean, leave the logo on the main page but put ads that correspond to the niche on all of the category pages.

[phogirl007]

What I meant was on the upskirt page, for example put upskirt ad the top, for the teen category add teen sponsor at the top. Table ads/text seem to do better than regular banners for me. I wouldn't put that logo on all the category pages because you have so much traffic and its just burning ya bandwidth.

[Makaveli]

gotys. First off don't trust anybody that says hit me up on Icq on this board..lol.. What the fuck do you want to talk to him about? If he said he had a TGP that does 5k you would be saying that.. Not likely..

http://www.sarcastic-bastards.com/cgi-bin/YaBB/YaBB.cgi

[koon]

gotys ... hit me on icq
i want a trade with you

also may be your site is too clean
so you cant able to earn any money
put that dailer on the top
it will be much better ....


uin: 1014076

[harvey]

Hey Gotys!
Your site is the one I'd choose to visit every fucking day. And that's a REALLY BAD thing somehow. I mean: why the hell would I pay a dime if you have it all for free? Plus, you've very little banners, not even a FPA before your main page... man, I LOVE YOUR SITE from a surfer's pov, but I doubt you'll make money this way...

Anyway, good luck and try some of the suggestions other people gave to you, I think it's time to get dirty, if you know what I mean

Peace
Harvey

[Hamlet]

"Lol.Somehow I just knew people would propose the use of dialers to make banks"
ya ya - but really, its a great way to go. I recommend UltimateDialers.com - always pays on time and all that good stuff.

[manga]

You want to make money with your site? Get rid of most of that free conent and add some consoles. The thousands of sites like yours out there are killing this business. How can you afford to stay in business with only $3 a day??? Is this a hobby for you??? Stop giving away the farm for free and you might make some money. 142,802 Galleries with freepix and movies!!! Wake up!

[MJ]

Hit me up on icq :

9903141

[Dcorp]

Originally posted by gotys:
<STRONG>Hey guys. According to Urchin, I get 250k/day, according to sexlist, I get 90k/day. I am making $3/day. IT pisses me off! Someone please advice me! I need to start making money! My site: http://www.pichunter.com
Thanx</STRONG>

You have my word : With 90k/day i can make over $140 .
with 250k/day i can make over $320 .

that is for sure...

[gotys]

Guys, you have been an awesome help! I will read all the messages in two hours or so , and I will respond to all of you. And most importantly: THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR ALL YOUR IMPUT! You have no idea how much that means to me. I am going to class now, I will be back in 2 hours or so, then I will respond to everyone and learn from your messages. Thanx again guys.

[gotys]

Unknown: YEs, it's horrible

Dawgy: Urchin definetely has issues, however Sexlist still says I get 95k (today)

The Chosen: I am no longer going to use Amateur Pages, they piss me off.

mike007: So can you help? Can you put up your ideas on board and share with everyone? Please?

mn1: I think I already contacted you. IF not, please contact me, I'd greatly appreciate that.

bramdaman: I was actually thinking about that =)

Terrance11 and other Dialer loves: I hate dialers, I think they are the most misleading thing in the world, there has to be another way of making money.

Toni: I stole that GIF and I Am about to get sued for it =)

Kappy: I think you have the best point of all here. I do offer way too much free porn, I think that's my major downfall. You are absolutely correct about it. But it's what makes my site so unique, and it is what made it big like it is now in less then a month. I want to keep my traffic no matter what. Traffic is more important to me than cash. But cash is neccessary to keep server up. There has to be a way of making money while keeping the traffic. I was hoping you guys would tell me how to do that.

phogirl007: My visitors don't click banners. It pisses me off. That's why I don't have them, it's pointless.

Makaveli: I learned my lesson yesterday. Most of the people who contacted me wanted somethink back from me. Pretty lame. Thanx.

koon: Please, just sign up for my UCJ I will return nice hits back to you, but please no little trades, I have too many little trades, I need big ones,like 10k/day or so

Harvey: I couldn't agree more, thanx

Manga: Yes, it is my hobby. I do hate consoles, I think they are the most annoying thing in the world, and anyone who runs a CJII site should not be allowed to run a website.

Bora Diker: PLEASE TELL ME HOW!!! AND I WILL LOVE YOU LONG TIME!

Guys, that you all very much!

[Dcorp]

contact me on icq 2044000 i would help you

[manga]

"Manga: Yes, it is my hobby. I do hate consoles, I think they are the most annoying thing in the world, and anyone who runs a CJII site should not be allowed to run a website."

The idea IS to annoy the surfer so that he WILL sign up to a paysite. If you ask me, anyone who runs their site like a hobby and not like a business and is giving away the farm for free should not be allowed to run a website.

People like you are ruining this business for everybody! :mad: Your console free clean attitude is a cancer on this business that is killing signups for everybody. The fact that you asked if anyone is making money means that you want to make money. Well guess what, you're not going to make any if you look at this like a hobby. Wake up, smell the coffee, and stop saturating the market with free content.

[cynthia]

Originally posted by gotys:
<STRONG>I want to keep my traffic no matter what. Traffic is more important to me than cash. </STRONG>

Good lord - are you even reading your own messages?

Personally, I'd rather have 100 hits a day from surfers willing to buy something than a worthless 200K bandwidth sucking leeches. If you don't know how to convert the traffic, then inflated counter stats do nothing but bleed your wallet and swell your head.

Don't like dialers? don't use 'em. Don't like consoles? you don't have to pop any. But you DO have to start learning about your traffic and start thinking about the site as a BUSINESS.

Even if this site is a hobby, it's not a freakin' charity.

ugh.

[playa]

you should of asked me when i offered free answers,,,LOL

[Groovy]

but the problem is that cj2 is not peoples favorite.

the huge freesites like thehun and friends take maybe 25% of the surfers, and it only get's worse...

cj2 has died out in some way, it will make you more, but also not what it was like before. dialers... hmmm were good, but as you see alot of them won't pay ya, so it's hard to trust them.

and exit consoles count shitty, no traffic no good sponsors... i think cj2 has become a very hard bizz. that's why they all go with tgp.
every fool can get a tgp up to 50k, just make it even cleaner than all others are... with cj2 it's a much harder job. i really respect all cj2 sites above 50k uniques daily. it's much harder, and alot of sponsors won't pay, but when you really want to, and your a good webmaster you can make your cj2 site big too, and after a while you found some sponsors that pay and are good.

then your better off with cj2 than with tgp.

i know this story is about nothing and won't help ya but anywayz :)

[manga]

There's no cj sites anymore because all the big ones became tgps. You can still do a tgp without giving the farm away, however. Give the surfer a couple of galleries to look at then send him on his way to a trade or a sponsor. You don't want the surfer sitting at your site looking at free pics all day. That's useless. Sure, get a few clicks out of him, show him a little content to tease him and move him along, that way he'll be productive when he gets to your trade partner's site, or in a buying mood when he sees your sponsor because he's horny.

What guys like this guy are doing, however, is teaching the surfer that he can get everything for free. That just makes life harder for everyone. The surfer is not horny when he sees your sponsor because he just blew a few loads at Pichunter. The whole concept of "pre-selling" is lost on these people and their killing business for the rest of us.

[addrian]

even a textlink like:

PAMELA ANDERSON hardcore!
MADONNA cum-shot!
CINDY CRAWFORD blow-job!
GILLIAN ANDERSON'S pussy!

sending hits to babilon-x make me 1 ... 1.2 $ / every 10k trafic ...
and this is my smaller income from a sponsor ...

I also try an ideea (is an old one, but never tried myself), making some galleries of my own, with my sponsors on it, and place it on top spots. Some tgp2 style galleries, and converts great. And without even hosting those galleries ... I have like 1 sign-up to 20..25 k trafic on main page.

[gotys]

Manga, You have a point. Hmm...maybe I should higher by bullshit ratio instead of 75 I should make it like 60. I think

[shane94]

I personally would not go below P=70 because it seems like when you get below that the quality of traffic decreases and your productivity lowers and you have to send more hits to get few back =) Just keep that in mind.

Shane

[shunga]

You will make more money, and have greater traffic, in the long run by not annoying surfers, but if you give too much away for free your site won't survive that long. A free site on paid hosting can only exist if it pays for itself, at the very least, and healthy profits give you the incentive to continue with it when the fascination with building traffic has gone. ;)

[exitmoney]

sell some or all of youe exit traffic. is a waste anyways so better get some money for it. If you have big volumes with poor quality it could be your main source of income.

Octav M. http://www.exitmoney.com

[magnatique]

most tgps don't allow exits... that could be a problem for him, no?

[gotys]

Yeah, I hate exists, no exists on my site ever. But I am going to sell some traffic to other webmasters, I think is the only way of making money. Anyone wants to buy traffic? Cheap? ;)

[quotealex]

What about selling your 404s? With that many traffic you must have quite a few!

[donger]

hahaha. man! if you've got 90k hits a day, and are making $3/day, how are you staying financially solvent? bandwidth has got to be more than $3/day.
Advise to everybody: the surfer is NOT your friend. Each and every surfer wants to drain YOUR wallet by leeching your bandwidth. If you regard the surfer like an adversary instead of trying to coax them back to COST YOUR MONEY each and every day, you'll be a lot better. This is why TGPs are retarded. What is this biz coming to, anyways? All the cj2 sites around any more are so full of "lolita" and other thinly veiled child porn references, it makes me want to puke. And all the traffic is going to sites like this! arrrrrrrghghgh! kill me now!

[remmie]

hey petr, urchint counts total hits per day on the whole server bro.
but sexcounter shows real hits.
but if you do get 250k a day i got ways to make you around $400 dollars a day either off dialers or someting else.
such as signup sponsers :-)