who runs http://Eroticgiveaways.com?

[Ron]

This chris guy emailed me from eroticgiveaways, and i would like to speak with him over ICQ. If anyone knows him can you post his UIN here, or send mine to him?

my UIN: 41830788

Tell him it is in regards to Top50.org, he'll know what you are talking about. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif


Ryan

[N.A]

That guy emailed me too
He was asking for a 40-50k trade but if you go to his site he has no other link trades. He just sells video's or something like that. I also talked to him on the phone and the whole thing looked like a scam so i just ignored him, even though he kept emailing me.
here's the url
http://www.eroticgiveaways.com

[N.A]

oh yeah, i forgot..he said he doesn't use icq to me http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Ron]

yeah it sounded sketchy to me.

i'll just ignor it.

[Jimbo]

I found it a lil suspicious here too when I got his e-mail a month ago... he asked for 40k exit traffic trade to me too

be carefull

Jimbo

[Zyber]

This guy also emailed me for a 40k trade. For me he looks much like an experienced hustler. Be carefull with him.

/Zyber

[Ride]

He is a known big time spammer.. Be careful.

Ride

[CC]

Who do you guys think you are? I haven't done business with any of you. Most of you guys have told me that YOU CAN'T TRACK EXIT TRAFFIC. Or you can't send exit traffic, and then when I say We can't do the trade with you.... you go on webmaster boards? Thats pathetic. You guys spend ample amount of time trying to put down other webmasters, that you don't focus on your own shit. Every once in a while I am directed to this webmaster board and you are the same guys complaining about some other webmaster.

This is even worse, cause you don't know a damn thing about me, our site, what we do.... you haven't gone to that level cause we haven't done any business with any of you.

You guys are known as HATERS! You can't do the trade yourself and get pissed, so you have to come up with excuses and spread bullshit about other webmasters. Its funny how all the webmasters you can do the trade the way we trade traffic don't have a problem. Only those you can't track exit or aren't able to trade the traffic waist their time on such a board.

Ron, I would gladly like to start a trade with you.... if it doesn't work to your liking then fine. To the rest of you who I have NEVER DONE BUSINESS WITH, yet you have all this crap to say about us.... Get a life!

[playa]

if you been in the CJ business for awhile you see that things sound very wierd when you say that you wanna trade 40k to a site with only like 10 links to other sites,,
no script just hard linked,,,

plus the wierdest thing is you want to trade exit hits,,,very suspecious

[N.A]

i don't know you personally, but i do know a scam when i see one.

Organization:
Erotic Giveaways
xxxxx xxxxx
Lust st.
Porn Ave., F4U 4C4
NL
Phone: 555-555-5555
Fax..: 555-555-5555
Email: Larryd@apexmail.com

Registrar Name....: Register.com
Registrar Whois...: whois.register.com
Registrar Homepage: http://www.register.com

Domain Name: EROTICGIVEAWAYS.COM

Created on..............: Tue, Apr 18, 2000
Expires on..............: Thu, Apr 18, 2002
Record last updated on..: Wed, May 09, 2001

Administrative Contact:
Erotic Giveaways
xxxxx xxxxx
Lust st.
Porn Ave., F4U 4C4
NL
Phone: 555-555-5555
Fax..: 555-555-5555
Email: Larryd@apexmail.com

Technical Contact:
Erotic Giveaways
xxxxx xxxxx
Lust st.
Porn Ave., F4U 4C4
NL
Phone: 555-555-5555
Fax..: 555-555-5555
Email: Larryd@apexmail.com

[CC]

First thing is first.... Playa, that is your nickname? Give me a break.

You had your chance to voice your opinion to me directly like a real man, or like a true PLAYA you HATER, but I guess you save your big talk only on message boards. Bottom line is, You didn't address ANY of your crap to me directly when you had the chance, and you did have your chance. Address me like a man when doing business or STEP OFF! As for trading exit hits, I know at least 23 other webmasters that trade exit hits.... trading exit hits is a surprise to you?? If so, you certainly haven't been trading traffic for long... at least not big traffic.
Secondly, it doesn't matter how the traffic is sent, but MOST sites like to use their exit hits because they don't lose traffic that way and they can't send large amounts of clickthrough hits.


As for N.A. I do, and I dont understand your concern. I don't because I can give you 8 of some of the TOP Paysites in the USA who do the exact same thing on their registration. The fact that you posted ours on this message board is a perfect example why we did that... THERE ARE CRAZY NUTS LIKE YOU OUT THERE. When we had our own info up, I had people wanting to view videos, wanting to know if we could film a video for them to use on their site. Asking about certain pornstars, etc. They would even go as far as calling constantly as well. It got crazy. But I understandto a certain degree (small degree), My webmaster should not have made the contact info the way he did.... sometimes he acts like to much of a character. That I will apologize for.

As for you NA, if you wanted to know who runs eroticgiveaways all you had to do was ask us. Mostly everyone else does, we have been to most of the adult trade shows too.... Don't believe I have seen you at any of them.... Or have I??

Bottomline is you don't know me, never asked, NEVER DID BUSINESS OR TRADED TRAFFIC WITH US and NEVER will. I can have my webmaster change the info so that it doesn't come off as goofy as it is... Will that make you feel better N.A? (NOT THAT I CARE).

[CC]

And as for trading 40k per day way back when. We struck a deal with a company in the adult industry and they sent us a SHIT LOAD of traffic for a couple of months. I won't get into the specifics of the deal, I am not about to divulge sound marketing tactics with HATERS who go on message boards to villify other webmasters they have NEVER done business with.

[CC]

Basically, that is why we were able to trade that much then.

[toker]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CC:
First thing is first.... MOST sites like to use their exit hits because they don't lose traffic that way and they can't send large amounts of clickthrough hits. </font>

So with those words you mean the traffic is shit i take it?

They cant send click thru hits because their sites suck ass i take it?


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">When we had our own info up, I had people wanting to view videos

Asking about certain pornstars, etc. They would even go as far as calling constantly as well.</font>

So what are your videos for to be stuffed in a big box in the back of your closet?

Why not make custom films is there no money in it or you dont really make the films?

Let me hit the site and see what else i can find...

Ah..
SHIPPING AND HANDLING CHARGES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE.

WE ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR VIDEO TAPES SEIZED AT INTERNATIONAL CUSTOMS.

Interesting statement never seen that one before http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

"Booby Trapped" - FREE! (plus $6.50 US shipping & handling)
Yes! I'd like 2 XXX videos - FREE! (plus $9.50 US shipping & handling)

I thought you said the videos were free?

You cant really think im that stupid to give some jackass my credit card for a video 1 im not able to preview and 2 does not even have image clips of these so called videos.

Hmm also thats a pretty cheezy supposed video cover on your main page and if you made so much from it i would think you could actually provide a clean image.

Also your fuckin site is tacky as shit for being some big porn film maker with tons of traffic. Then you actually claim to have "Porn Stars" just because somone does some nude shots or a video does not make them a proclaimed star.


With only 2 videos you obviously dont have much free time with all them vid replications to make new ones so i think its time you outsource becase you sound so biggg!!

Your webmaster designed that site?
Hahaha ROFLMFAO Hahahahahahaha...I would have canned his ass ages ago.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">But I understandto a certain degree (small degree), My webmaster should not have made the contact info the way he did.... sometimes he acts like to much of a character. That I will apologize for.</font>

Ok smart guy ever hear of domain hijacking?
What about unfair trade acts?

Boy if people start bitching the FTC will really thing you have somthing to hide and have a field day with your ass. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">As for you NA, if you wanted to know who runs eroticgiveaways all you had to do was ask us. Mostly everyone else does, we have been to most of the adult trade shows too.... Don't believe I have seen you at any of them.... Or have I??

Bottomline is you don't know me</font>

Nor do i think we want to by the way this post is headed http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Lets see if i find a peeping tom or a possible burgler peering into my window do i take the time to ask who he is or should i just whoop his ass?

Who says you would tell the truth anyway?

Fact is you are the one contacting them not them all swarming over to you begging to trade with you.

Last but not least my big time movie producer i dont ever recal seeing your hugh video company in klixxx magazine. I have every issue ever printed and most every real content producing company has some form of print ad.

I would love to meet you and your porn stars at the next convention in florida because frankly NV is a bit far for me to travel just to expose your ass. I will bring some of my girls (not porn stars) and we see who gots the better goods http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Frankly i dont care who you are but im not one to be blinded by smoke. Fog maybe but never smoke http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[toker]

Ow yea im not on here just to villify other webmasters.. Matter fact i have met some really great people on here who play a very fair game.

I also get much knowledge and expose cheating fucks if thats what you mean by villify.

I also reserve my right to slander anyone who cheats me or i feel to be full of shit. Regardless of their threats or how much money they have. Fact is im only scared of 1 man in this world and thats bill gates so fuckin sue me...!! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[macrodx]

CC you need web design?

www.vir2alweb.com (http://www.vir2alweb.com)

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[CC]

Where do you assholes come from? Toker, are you the same as NA, or are you his lil bitch?
This will be one of the last messages I send out, I have a few webmasters we have been doing business with that tell me they will get into the discussion a little later. See they have sites to run and build, they don't really have time to talk crap on message boards. It will be interesting though, I hear a few of them have had negative run ins with some of you guys as well..... SURPRISE, SURPRISE!

I won't even go through every point toker cause I don't have the time and you aren't worth it.

1. The videos are free(plus shipping and handling). Surfers understand that, maybe I should have them explain it to you. See, we aren't charging for the videos if we were then it would be $29.999 pluus $6.50 shipping and handling.

I already explained the exit traffic thing, I guess you missed it. As for most of the other stuff, you totally got off topic. Started talking about some movie producer, comparing your girls to ours, being scared of Bill Gates (I figured your for a panzy).

Everything else you said is nonsense. I see that you aint got shit to say, you are full of hot air, and you sound very angry over nothing so I think we can say that you are sexually repressed.

I am close with some of the people affiliated with organizing the Adultdex shows, so if you have the grapefruits to talk your crap then so that all of us can have a good laugh, then please show up. I don't know why you are talking you shit, I already received an apology from one of the people who posted here. I respect that cause it was big of him to do. So to NA, Toker or who ever the hell you are, shove your comments up your ass..... I am sure it iis the most action you will get all year.

[CC]

macrodx, You think you can create a design that will appeal to us. Let me know. I M being serious, not sarcastic... I would be willing to see what you have. Mind you, you have missed the point I think to what our site is all about, and what our surfers want. But if you are serious and can produce something interesting, I might have my webmaster and you talk. You can just show us some of the stuff you have done in the past, and we will judge the quality. Like I said.... let me know.

[CC]

Oh yes one more thing Toker, you called us cheaters.... FUCK YOU. You haven't traded with us, and if you are who I and some other webmasters I know think you are.... Then your ass has been on enough webmaster boards as an abuser. You don't have a leg to stand on asshole.... All you have is time to waste. I think other webmasters will see that. Later loser, you won't really be hearing much from me anymore cause I have better things to do, but I have friends and other webmasters I know who are tired of assholes like you and they told me they would be posting soon to give you an ear full. Later HATER!!

[toker]

Naw pal i have never had anything bad said about me nor will i ever. I dont cheat im not into ripping off sponsors and matter fact have defended quite a few of them.

You got me all wrong pal and where your buddies to back up your claims?

Ok heres why i jumped on your boat asshole and point proven after the staement about having your webmaster talk to macrodox its apparent you realize how bad your site sux. I do all my own webmastering just so you know I have designed sites adult ad non adult related for about 6+ years.

Now can you say im a cheater when you wont even find one bad word about my anywhere?

I never hide nor cover up my tracks for anything i do all my info is on all my domains. I have had people call me from all over the states including hacker wannabees who have spoofed their number but hey that shit happens in this biz. This adult stuf is not the only thing im invloved in down here and there are a few people who can tell you that know how much shit im currently and have been involved in.

I have assoiaciates from florida all the way to canada working on producing underground music and some of the crew makes more from underground CD sales then you will probably make in this lifetime. I have been running club productions for about a year and a half and hooking shit up from miami to fort lauderdale.

I have worked in the protection field for over 3 years and worked with big names in hollywood all the way down to the music recording industry. Also a bit over a year working in investigations field and have provided assistance to law enforcmenet
such as the Broward Sherifs Office in survelance of drug activity and burglary
in district 5, to state police with survelance to assist apprehension of a most wanted felon.

I have provided protction services and worked with people such as DMX and Eve on tour for def jams 2000 at the Blue Moon Hotel on south beach, Mystical performing live at Club Crystal on south beach, Karl Kani did fasion show on south beach and after party at Club Marlin, How about LL Cool J, Cameron Diaz, james woods, Jamie Foxx, and more big names on the set of any given sunday filmed accross dade and broward county.

I have provided services to companies such as Remington Productions which produces commercials for big named products. Such as Ford Motor Corp, aside many others.

Also many people from the Latin Recording Industry in Club Mellinnium in hialeah, Club Las Palmas in ives dairy, Some of the biggest being Ruby Perez, Kontrol, Son by Four and many others. Pics are floating around everywhere of me with big name people.

I have a reputation that has more weight then gold in the entertainment industry and take shit from no one. I can back up any of my claims if you need referances provided to you or anyone else.

Also have an uncle who owns a major film production company which produces commercials and private video shoots which i prefer to keep private for obvious reasons.

Now any other questions relating to my background or reputation?

I have no problem meeting with anyone on this board from the dade,broward area and no im not Mr Innocent when it comes to getting crunked up and partying. I love to get wasted and have a good time just like the next guy. Frankly i do what people pay me to do if the price is right im game and im a guy who loves action and adverture....

[toker]

Please be shure to list any posts related to me involving any wrong doing. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[macrodx]

Hey CC contact me, im sure I can help you take your web identity to new levels http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

icq: 82547926

[macrodx]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CC:
Mind you, you have missed the point I think to what our site is all about, and what our surfers want.</font>


Oh no, I did not miss the point at all, I know exactly what your surfers "should" want
but the way you are presenting you contents does not look effective at all, specially when people have to pull out their wallets.

This is just my opinion and I wouldn't buy anything from your site.

[RaiDeN]

this eroticegiveaways is 1 big fake thing to rip us off

i tried it before with my blindio.

i gave them a unique url so i could track the hits and productivity and got the hits for sure yes. they do send 40k

they had a productivity of 3% . hahaha

then he asked me why he only got a couple of k back. so i tled hime its was a fucking scam and their traffic is wothless.
they put my email on their blacklist on something. never got anything from them before.

those guys are looooosers bigtime

never deal with them guys. its one big scam

they work this way&gt;

you send you exit to that site (40k)

and that exit gets send back to someone they have the similar deal with.

they have no traffic at all theirselves

you just get 40k of exit of exit of exit of exit of cj.

thats productive right.... haha lol

btw toker is defenitly not a cheater so CC watch you mouth before youll end up on the blacklist. wich i think is a very good idea for there guys.

[toker]

Thanks for the input Raiden, and there you have it folks!!

Case closed exoticgivaways = BS scum

CC suck my cock http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Better be careful next time you call someone a cheater like myself. Unless however you had done your homework fist and found some evidence to back your claims.

BTW ask Mr-Cash if im a cheater been wit them since december 99 and never never never missed a payment or had an issue of not getting paid for cheating with any sponsor period.

[Arthur]

An entertaining critique, Toker.

I like the way your mind works http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[toker]

Thanks for the kind words http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I try my best to be somewhat entertaining and at the same time get down to the facts.

[CC]

Ha! Ha! Ha!

The question has been answered, Raiden is Tokers lil bitch!! I'll be brief, I had to come back just to make Raiden look dumber than he looks. Exit traffic doesn't respond to your script.... remember ASSHOLE! That is what YOU told me AFTER and only after we sent traffic to you, and you knew we were going to be sending exit traffic but failed to say the script wouldn't respond to the exit traffic until after we sent the traffic. You only picked up clickthrough traffic and their is nothing exciting about your site that is appealing for people to click on anything.

Also, many scripts dont respond to our as well as many other websites url linking info. It is only after failed attempts trying to trade within the script that it was brought to our attention. Many sites that use the same sort of script as Raiden know this and tell webmasters up front, they know that they can't program the url linking info in the script cause the script doesn't pick up exit traffic well if any at all. It is only assholes like Raiden who do the trade anyways just to get a little extra traffic anyways. Now that your pathetic ass has been shot down Raiden, I would suggest you stick to what you know and do best.... which aint a damn thing.

I didn't even read your response Toker, You aren't worth my time.

[RaiDeN]

Bullshit dude and you know it.
i gave you a /?site= url and tracked every singel hit. Wich was total crap as I can remember

[will76]

OLD bump, sorry about that, but.....


Anyone know if this CC character is still involved with adult and if he still posts on the boards under another name?