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PornoWill
05-28-2001, 10:24 AM
I have sent FlashCash site's 560 uniques so far this pay period and haven't generated one single sign up. Last pay period I only used some simple blind links and got 1:500 ratio. Any ideas on what I can do to improve?

Axel
05-28-2001, 10:28 AM
You should try everything...
i have tried many sponsors, and had the same problem. (still have actually) http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
just try every method 1 week, then you will see what makes the best conversions for your site.

Regards,

Axel
www.thumbserious.com (http://www.thumbserious.com)

mshah
05-28-2001, 11:19 AM
They can be pretty slow sometimes...

I sent their lolita teen site pure search
traffic (mostly google) and still does not convert much.

Shah.

bigdog
05-28-2001, 11:32 AM
560 uniqes is not enough hits to judge how a sites converts at.

Doctor Dre
05-28-2001, 11:46 AM
When you juge a site, you must send over 20 000 hits to it to see the real conversion ratio ... It's just bad luck you didn't got a signup .

Dan S
05-28-2001, 11:54 AM
You are sending a sponsor 20k banner clicks before you see if its good or not?

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 12:16 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by bigdog:
560 uniqes is not enough hits to judge how a sites converts at.</font>

560 uniques is just so far this pay period with the unique program, I have tried all their other programs too aswell as used different banner and links to see what is best and still bad ratios.

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 12:19 PM
I really should finish up my own pay sites soon and promote them instead. LOL http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

The Badgurl
05-28-2001, 12:20 PM
Hey, soon as you're done Will..let me know, and we can do cross promotion...exit consoles and all that fun stuff!

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 12:23 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by The Badgurl:
Hey, soon as you're done Will..let me know, and we can do cross promotion...exit consoles and all that fun stuff!</font>

Sure. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I will see if I can get my act together and finish up those member sections tonight. I have to spend atleast some hours categorizing the content... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

I.R.Dean
05-28-2001, 12:24 PM
For me anyway FlashCash has gone downhill the last six months

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 12:26 PM
BadGurl; I need your advise here... How much content should each pay site have? Will 1000 images and some feeds do for each or...?

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 12:29 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PornoWill:
BadGurl; I need your advise here... How much content should each pay site have? Will 1000 images and some feeds do for each or...?</font>

I don't want to have too little content nor have too much, I must find a line between customer satisfaction/bandwidth/work.

The Badgurl
05-28-2001, 12:34 PM
Sorry..no...

need around 10,000 pics..

Okay, well, wait on that. Depends on what niche you're doing.

If you are going to carve out some territory in seldom seen places...then the surfers can't expect a whole lot...as there just isn't a whole lot..of certain types of content..

But, if you are going more toward mainstream....hardcore, les..etc..then, you have to have so many pics they could never possibly look at them all. Lots of live feeds too..at least 30...more if you can get them! Videos...are really nice..but they are a huge pain..if you host them yourself...you need another huge hard drive just for that. And the bandwith is murder, you get some of the people zipping in at lunch from work on the T1's...and just watch your bandwith burn baby burn...

So, best bet...pay for the plug in video's...

And lots of pics..

mshah
05-28-2001, 12:40 PM
Agrees with da gurl http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

1000 images with feeds would do if your site specialize in a specific niche. Also think about the price per month that you're going to charge your members.

The more specific the niche is, the more signups ya gonna get! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Shah.

basschick
05-28-2001, 12:49 PM
PornoWill - first off, if those are 550 tgp hits, that isn't that high. if it's avs traffic, it's outrageous! perhaps changing banners or textlinks will help.

second, our best-recurring sponsor has a LOT of content - over 10,000 original and rarely seen pics, another 5-10,000 filler pics, several niched pieces of lease content, and they update with a FULL set (36+ pics) every other day. that is a very niche gay site.

we had a shemale site with over 7000 pics, a couple hundred shemale stories, shemale chat and 3 live shemale feeds and almost every shemale plugin known, plus some hardcore. it wasn't enough - i heard from members when they cancelled. they wanted original stuff.

if you're going to have original content, you can get away with less. i know which of our sponsors recur, and it's the ones with the most content or original content. sites with higher res pics also hold longer.

PornoWill
05-28-2001, 01:30 PM
Ok... PornoWill got himself a mass file renamer and have written a PHP gallery script, so this will go easier than he thought. LOL. I will try to get some work done with the member sections soon and follow your advices. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

What are your thoughts of pay sites with very litle content BTW? I have visited many pay sites with those hacked passwords and most pay sites are *really* shitty! Most I have seen is 100 or so galleries, but that is rare.

I feel sorry for people that buy access to that shit, they get ripped off. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

kong
05-28-2001, 01:39 PM
500 hits is too early too tell.

I've had a ratio of 0:7000 before so 0:500 doesnt seem too bad, http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Kong

mshah
05-28-2001, 01:41 PM
You might not believe it but there are
some webmasters who put up fake "pay sites"
that seems to be "hacked" in order to be listed on password sites. Guess that kinda traffic also works eh?

On a different note, little content won't get any member to stay for long.

Shah.

shunga
05-28-2001, 01:45 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by PornoWill:
I feel sorry for people that buy access to that shit, they get ripped off. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif</font>

Amen to that. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif Provide good quality content and good service, however, and watch those recurrings grow. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Darrell
05-28-2001, 02:10 PM
I have a hardcore amateur paysite with 4000 photos and an amateur foot fetish site with 1500 photos. That's not many photos, but both convert well and retain members. The first site has members who joined over two years.

If you have original content and up-date weekly, you should do ok.

richard
05-28-2001, 02:46 PM
i heard from members when they cancelled. they wanted original stuff.

Yep, original content rocks, but something else that is vital, is the navigation. I've seen sites with plugins that give you a fullsized 100k pic with each click, no thumbs.

I've also seen a site that splits a shoot into 5 sections, but does not link the 1st, with the 2nd, etc, you have to go back to the main page to find the links again.

Im not 100% up to speed with the latest paysites, buy does anyone employ some database driven stuff? It would be rocking to have a site where you have an "options" panel, where you specify the size of the pics you prefer, how many thumbs on one page of a gallery, what type of porn turns you on more (if its not too niche already) etc.

Something like that could work really really well, it is the way alot of mainstream portals are going - personalised.

Hell, some sites even let you write in and suggest shoots - what you gotta do is say its your birthday and .... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Dan S
05-28-2001, 02:52 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by richard:
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Hell, some sites even let you write in and suggest shoots - what you gotta do is say its your birthday and .... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif
</font>

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
so you enjoyed your anal ripping session?

The Badgurl
05-28-2001, 05:13 PM
Ooooooh...nasty!

Ouch!