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cyb
10-28-2001, 03:54 AM
What you think about it?

"Xwebhosting only redirects certain garbage forgein traffic. Traffic that wouldn't make you money either way, unless you are using some very serious multi-lingual sponsors"

ProgGod

Due
10-28-2001, 04:12 AM
Why is it cheating when they write it in their terms? :confused:

Pinhead
10-28-2001, 06:29 AM
I agree, it isn't cheating, but IMHO they should tell exactly what kind of traffic they redirect.

cyb
10-28-2001, 07:09 AM
They changed terms few days ago.

One day you'll see in terms.
"We reserve right to steal all your traffic.
Thank you for using our service."
And that wont be cheating?

Atention to all gallery makers.Use xwebhosting.Whey will steal half of your traffic,but use them it and help them to make money.

Trax
10-28-2001, 09:13 AM
well... if you want your traffic to be stolen or redirected go with freehosts.. if not buy a payhost. its sad but it is that easy to say!!!!!!

Priest
10-28-2001, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by cyb:
<STRONG>What you think about it?

"Xwebhosting only redirects certain garbage forgein traffic. Traffic that wouldn't make you money either way, unless you are using some very serious multi-lingual sponsors"

ProgGod</STRONG>

If it does not make you any money, then why does Xwebhosting want to redirect it?

:confused:

Rui
10-28-2001, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Priest:
<STRONG>

If it does not make you any money, then why does Xwebhosting want to redirect it?

:confused:</STRONG>

Maybe because they don't want those visitors to eat thier bandwidth, but anyway i'm sure they are able to make $$ with that traffic!

candidpublishinginc
10-28-2001, 01:16 PM
You guys should STOP your whining.

Pretty much all free hosts redirect your traffic one way or another, even the biggest out there.

ProgGod
10-28-2001, 01:23 PM
All freehosts redirect traffic. Its simple when you are getting tons of bandwidth eaten by someone who only speaks chinese, and doesn't even own a credit card. Its not worth it. You most likely wouldn't make any money from them regardless. its more about saving money then making it.

Would you prefer xwebhosting just goes down the tubes b/c it loses so much money it can't afford to stay up.

I can assure xwebhosting isn't even breaking even yet. You guys should be damn thankful of royaltee and his freehost instead of acting like complete assholes.

I don't understand why people think freehosts are completely free. Do you think they are run by rich ecentric crazy people who do nothing to make sure they make a dime?

Due
10-28-2001, 01:49 PM
Originally posted by ProgGod:
<STRONG>Do you think they are run by rich ecentric crazy people who do nothing to make sure they make a dime?</STRONG>

You mean they are not? :confused:

tukhman
10-28-2001, 03:28 PM
Not like I care, but ProgGod, this statement needs a little revision
"All freehosts redirect traffic."

Maybe, all the freehosts that YOU know redirect traffic. But WhoaHosts.com network of freehost NEVER stole a single hit from a user, no matter what country they are from, and never will.

candidpublishinginc
10-28-2001, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by tukhman:
<STRONG>Not like I care, but ProgGod, this statement needs a little revision
"All freehosts redirect traffic."

Maybe, all the freehosts that YOU know redirect traffic. But WhoaHosts.com network of freehost NEVER stole a single hit from a user, no matter what country they are from, and never will.</STRONG>

How do you know? Some free host skimming systems aren't based on country blocking systems.

tukhman
10-28-2001, 03:37 PM
Because my company runs them, that's how I know =)

HQ
10-28-2001, 03:59 PM
actually, cheating implies deception, so it's not cheating! :)
http://www.dictionary.com/cgi-bin/dict.pl?term=cheating

toker
10-28-2001, 07:39 PM
Ouch that had to hurt.. :D

But what you guys dont realize is without TGPs these free hosts would be gone with the wind.. Far as i know bizland.com terra.com geocities.com and most any other "Non-Adult" free host does not redirect traffic.

You can argue that porn uses more bandwidth but why dont hosts just find programs that better cater to foreign traffic. Sure .jp guys wont but many paysite memberships but maybe there are things they will buy like toys. I noticed a few smart free hosts are now catering to niche and using targeted ads which is what all of them need to start doing.

If microsoft only made windows for the english language do you think they would be on more that half the home PCs in thew world?

What ticks me off is not so much redirecting by country but these guys who pull random redirection and use mode rewrite scripts to sneak consoles on the gallerys. I know many are starting to pull this crap of deleting pages for file size when it would be more fair to simply reject the upload instead of using it an an excuse to steal a few hits from TGPs.

Another thing if you cant make money with the free host biz then its time to find a new business..

shane94
10-28-2001, 09:47 PM
If you do not want to any traffic redirected/site removed or any kinda shit from a free host I got your answer...PAY FOR IT. It just really pisses me off to see someone bitch about something that is free. Next you will bitch about the headers and want none. So what if the free host don't make shit....who cares right..thier are pleasty of others to leach off of.Fucking A

Shane

Dot Banner
10-28-2001, 09:54 PM
shane,
That's where you are wrong. Yes, it's true that freehosting is not the easiest market out there; that just means it's not for everybody.

If you are not prepared financially and marketing-wise to launch and maintain a free host, then there is no reason to start one!

If you do plan to redirect, then state it clearly.

It has nothing to do with a lame excuse of getting a PAID hosting or "there is nothing you can do with that traffic anyway".

Over and out.

shane94
10-28-2001, 10:21 PM
But you get what you pay for. If I get a free car from my friend and I buy a 20k dollar car and the free one brakes down do I have the right to bitch at my frind. I would say no. Even if he told me it was the best car on the road. :D Yeah that is kinda of a lame comparison but if better states my point.

Shane

ProgGod
10-28-2001, 10:44 PM
Here is the deal guys, when you launch a freehost and see you aren't making enough money, you try different things. You look at what is causing you to lose the money and change it. If terms don't change every 3 minutes then so be it. Using a freehost you should expect such things.

I hardly think redirecting some chinese traffic is really going to affect the outcome of your site. Its really just like everything else you guys find a new thing to bitch. All you guys talking out your ass obviously have no clue. There is basically NO profit in freehosts. Most of them make only a few bucks in comparision to every hundred they spend.

If it is so easy to make money from freehosts, then why not use a pay host? B/c obviously you complaining experts have advertising down to such a science you can make money easily without doing anything but using a pretty header.

akko
10-28-2001, 11:14 PM
Not all freehosts redirect traffic, we never have and we never will.

Thats why i made my freehost, i was sick of all the others ripping off its members.

akko

shunga
10-29-2001, 12:49 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>Sure .jp guys wont but many paysite memberships</STRONG>

Japanese surfers do have credit cards, and they do buy memberships, but I think they're less likely to join Teen sites, and maybe that's the problem with most freehosts. ;)