Charge backs?For dialers?Webmastercommerce

[cashrat]

Chagebacks for dialers i thought we wouldn't have to worry about that as far as dialers are corcern after all weren't we told the phone companies would be responable for that.
so that was the reason there were charging $7.99 a minute,looks like the phone companies and the builders of these dialers are laughing all the way to the bank!When is someone going to come out with a reasonable price dialer?

Webmastercommerce
RE: charge backs/rate reduction

Effective November 16, 2000:
As you know, charge backs are part of this business and must be dealt with
accordingly. Webmastercommerce Co. will continue to make guaranteed timely
payments and look forward to finding new solutions to increase your traffic
overall.

Having said that, we have to reduce payment on a few of our countries. We,
here at Webmastercommerce Co. strongly believe in keep our webmasters
abreast of any and all changes we go through as a company. As a result of
these changes, we have spent the last several days running numbers to make
sure we are able to make this as smooth as possible.

You will notice that a few changes have been made. WE have taken a decrease
in some countries and are forced to decrease some areas for you to maintain
our business. We hope you will try and understand, this is about keeping us
all in business so that we can stick around for you for a long time.

See the chart for a better idea of the pay out rates as of November 16th,
2000 on our website. We are sorry for the decrease in pay outs to some
countries, but feel that we have to take a cut in some areas to stay in
business!! We try hard to let you know of any changes as we know them and
we only found out about the pay rate change this morning.

USA$0.30
Netherlands$0.25
Norway$0.25
United Kingdom (Domestic only)$0.25
United Kingdom (Mobile only)$0.20
Sweden$0.25
Germany$0.25
Japan$0.25
Australia $0.25
Austria $0.25
Denmark $0.25
Ireland $0.25
Belgium $0.25
Finland $0.25
Greece $0.25
Italy $0.25
Jamaica $0.25
Hong Kong$0.25
Canada $0.25
All others$0.01
Webmaster commerce Inc.

[sandman]

not really suprised that payouts are going down more and more people are not paying thier dialer bills this will continue i think. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

[diesel]

I am paying all bills and on time....

just might help ya


diesel
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[Tam]

cashrat.... ummm... the phone company is responsible for chargebacks..... but have ya ever heard of shit rolls down hill? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif The way I see it, at least you were told instead of hearing about it from someone else. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks,
Tam

[shane]

yea, it was allready rediculus that they were charging $7 and paying us only 30c....

[Tam]

hey..... if I knew how, I'd start building dialers myself.......... I'd like to be getting $7 a minute myself......... but since I am not too much in the brains dept...... ok.... or beauty...... I am stuck just working for the companies that build them....... LOL

Sorry, it's early and I am delirious!! http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

[Thomsen]

These rates are now a fucking joke!!!

If you look at the UK, German or Australian domestic market for example, 25 US cents is a laughable. I contacted other dialer companies long ago and nearly twice as much, even though I was just a random person off the street. There is some serious fleecing going on here.

Wow. Webmastercommerce must be getting huge margins on all of this traffic that webmasters run. They are laughing all the way to the bank.

Why haven't the other Ron Tan re-sellers lowered their rates? If chargebacks are such a huge problem now, why is webmaster commerce the only one who has lowered rates without warning?

Does anyone know any other re-sellers that have lowered rates? I have a few big friends shopping for dialers and need to know beofre I point them in the right direction.......

Snow, you seem to be the in house expert, any insights on this?

[Gudlaugur]

This is bad Joke?
I go to other dialer websites and see much higher rates.

I am not needing to put wc's children through university.

Me + my minutes - WC = new dialer or no dialer
:0(

[khavnus]

I know not Gudlaugur. I tink no dialers from Iceland eh? hah ha

Greedy americans webmastercommerce steal from the world sounds to me. They kontrol the dialers and rape webmasters.

Not professional when rates lowered and no warning. They tink webmasters are stupid who dont know european dialer market.

fuck you webmastercommerce. I will not run anythign with you, you are thiefs.

Fuck dej!!!!

[Due]

How can they send a mail saying new rates
Effective November 16, 2000
when they send it November 21, 2000 ?? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/confused.gif
They could at least notice their webmasters a few days before they deside to change the payouts if it is not possible to give a notice before they could at least send out a notice when they change the payouts.
What do you think happend next time they have problems paying webmasters?
Next time they will send you invoices for using their dialer on your sites

[Tam]

After careful consideration of our rates, and feedback from you, our webmasters we have decided to leave the USA minutes as they were at $0.35 per minute. We realize that the notice we gave you was short and we apologize for this. We were given no notice so we were unable to give you any more notice than we did. So to make up for the error on our part, we are going to leave the USA minutes as they are. The following is the revised chart.

Again, we apologize for the short notice. Please be advised and let this stand as testiment that we DO listen to you and do our best to act on your feedback. If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us immediately.

USA$0.35
Netherlands$0.25
Norway$0.25
United Kingdom (Domestic only)$0.25
United Kingdom (Mobile only)$0.20
Sweden$0.25
Germany$0.25
Japan$0.25
Australia $0.25
Austria $0.25
Denmark $0.25
Ireland $0.24
Belgium $0.25
Finland $0.25
Greece $0.25
Italy $0.25
Jamaica $0.25
Hong Kong$0.25
Canada $0.25
All others$0.01

Thank you for your business. If you have any questions please contact us via email at staff@webmasterwommerce.com . We are always here to answer any question or concern you may have. NO question in unimportant with us!!

This is not a copout or anything, this is just a way of letting you know that we do listen... and for the record WE do not make $7.00 a minute.... we are RESELLERS, plain and simple and our cut is not as high as some would like to think it is. SOMEONE is getting rich, I know, but it sure as shit ain't me!!!

Thanks,
Tam

P.S. All of our webmasters will be getting this in their email.... http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[diesel]

i offer almost same rates...my UK rates low then webcommerce...but most 0.25c countries i offer for 0.35c...


diesel
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[xApster]

Guy guys get mad at the dialer companies but per min they make a lot less then you do. They only have a certain price they can go to and the other 5 or whatever bucks goes to the phone companies!

[Gudlaugur]

aught oh...
...the backpeddle http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Can you raised the other rates now too.

[Tam]

Gudlaugur,.......... ummm......... NO!!! LOL

Sorry, we did listen and we did bend a bit.... but I can't bend all the way over.. I like a kiss with my bending over babe...... http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif We gave you back the 5c for the USA. But we did get a reduction so we have to make it up somewhere. Sorry, babe, I can't help it.

Are you even a member of webmastercommerce? Just for my own info.

[snow]

Hello Everyone, I am not feeling very well at this moment. I am in bed with nemonia to the lower lungs. I was told to come here to post about this. Webmastercommerce came to the board straight out and told you what happened they had to lower there rates,thats what they had to do. This will also affect other dialer companies using this same dialer that WC uses.

As far as a dialer goes i'm not gonna sit here and plug my dialer,Everyone knows what dialer company i run,but these things do happen.There are always little tremmers and shakers. Maybe this router went down or that router went down,Minutes are up one day down the next.
I do know for a fact with studying dialer min for us people sunday and monday are the worst.Take advantage of the min you earn,Get as many as you can.

The Dialer lives
vipdialer
Snow

[Gudlaugur]

Tam
have been thinking of doing the dialer for long time now and have talked to many company including wc. many have higher rate on most country.

what does WC have to give to me beside falling rate? LOL

[snow]

ok my website will be on the spam board,cause i promised people no spamming,so go there.
Going to bed now.

[Tam]

Gudlaugur, well you get ME, of course.... I thought everyone knew that. DAMN!! I am losing my grip, I suppose. LOL You get damn near 24/7 icq support, you get to bitch at me if I let you down, which so far, I have only done once... and I just tried to fix some of that and meet our webmasters 1/2 way with the cuts......... hmmm........ did I mention you get me for webmaster support? You get a referral program......

Ok, did I mention you get me for your Happy Support Girl? I have nicer tits than snow and diesel....... http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Tam

[Tam]

feel better snow...... http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif I knew you were sick so I was going to spam for you... but I have been too damn busy. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[BrianWC]

Actually, I have seen Tam's tits and I have to agree about them being nicer than Snow's and Diesel's.

http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[khavnus]

Nice tits I tink not. Can you post pic ..........I tell you if so, i bet not so nice as Viking woman ....hehe

Rates that go down and no warning yes.

Now webmasters gets anry and rates go up again.

In Norge we say in our language "papa caught
you wit hand in cookie jar" hehe

If webmaster still complain, maybe all rates go up again.....hehehe

[Due]

Tam>
I thought you where Kimmy's bitch? ;-)

[Gudlaugur]

I like the using of the womens angle. your tits must make good moneys for wc.

i am gay though http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif can i have a nice big man help with my dialers and the late nite supports when i am lonely.

[Tam]

khav... no it's called compromise.... ever hear of it? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Gudlaugur, ok, so you got me there....... I can go buy a great big strapon if ya like? LOL.. I am playing with ya babe...... not trying to offend you. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Due... I AM kimmy's bitch....... but I have enough to spread it out. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif Creful, you are going to make me start having to answer THOSE questions again. LMAO

Tam

[Gudlaugur]

Wait one times

a womens with the rubber penis is NOT a man http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

I not look for the penis or the tits. I look for the way to make the moneys and not works so hards on the fishings i have to do.

I not need jokes, I needs the moneys and not the moneys that change as the tides do. you change rate and I can run the minutes make the moneys and get paid less when you tell me the moneys are now lower rate...

...why not new rate start tomorrow and we make our moneys for the old rate up to today....

... is only fair!

[snow]

Gud How many min do you make a day? And where do those min come from?