Two more Dialer resellers I wouldn't trust... [Archive]

euphamon

10-07-2001, 07:18 PM

dialermaster.com
ultimatedialers.com

As you may remember, I asked to be spammed with dialers...These two I bothered signing up to.

dialermaster.com - Didn't recieve any correspondence 3 days after signing up; contacted via ICQ about hosting the dialer - no response.
"...I signup up like 3 days ago to your dialer company, no email no nothin..."
Explained that he'd had a problem, I accepted that and asked if I would ever recieve it - no response.
Told him I'd go to the boards - "Man I pay everyone..You won't here bad things about me!"
I wanted courtesy though, not cash...

Ultimatedialers.com - Signed up, recieved dialer timely to my surprize, but to the wrong name, I contact the guy via ICQ - no replies after several polite msg's, then goes on N/A, which started me thinking.
Then I send him this msg - "oi dikhed? you gonna reply, prob with my account havin the wrong name."
So he finally replies with "Howdy doody"

Just stay away from them, particularly ultimatedialers.com

Now is it just me or is there something about dialer sellers only replying after they assertain that they aren't being contacted about money?

unconnected

10-07-2001, 07:29 PM

HA!
Yea, this guy decides to contact my while in meetings with Lawyers and bankers all day, and then starts a great message with oi dikhed.. an insult not only to me but to his gramatical skills, which doesn't surprise me.. But of course being the bigshot player that he is, he of course assumes I am a crook and will only reply about money, instead of perhaps the fact that managing the kind of accounts #'s I do might require time out of the office..
The Truth is, as everyone knows, we offer the most selection of niches, pay on time, and pay the most overall compared to most other companies.. Unfortunately running a business with 2100 dialer webmasters and resellers doesn't exactly afford you 24 hours a day to support rude ignorant and arrogant webmasters..
My apologies ;)

You want amazing hold times, 7 awesome niches to support, and to be paid on time all the time, then http:/www.ultimatedialers.com is your program
for guys like this, who needs his hand held 24 hours a day and will throw a fit if you aren't there I would recommend http://www.allamericannanny.com/
They will take care of your and teach you some well needed manners

Due

10-07-2001, 07:31 PM

There could be a dozen of reasons. One of them might actually be that it is sunday evening :)

Dawgy

10-07-2001, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by euphamon:
no replies after several polite msg's, then goes on N/A

um... did it ever occur to u that people leave their ICQ on when theyre gone? i know i do. i also know that after a certain period of inactivity it automatically goes n/a. the fact that it did this while you were sending a message is coincidence i think.

and, in my opinion, icq does not replace email as the preferred form of "documented communication".

give someone 24 hours at LEAST before u start bashing them. we dont all sit in front of ICQ 24/7.

woof.

freekie

10-07-2001, 07:36 PM

Stay away from ultimatedialers.com????
No way!!

I have lots of minutes with them and he always answer quick to my icq and e-mail messages. And they always pay on time.

jazzmaster

10-07-2001, 07:44 PM

Yo everybody,

I know the guy that runs ultimatedialers.com
and I get more money from him in a month than you're probably make in a year with the
other shitty dialers out there.

Maybe sign up with a really high techie respectable company like sextracker's dialer,
wait a month and buy a pound of beans with the money you'll be getting from them.

Ultimate pays top $ for your minutes and their cheques are in the mail right on time,
twice a month.

So catch their webmaster (icq-9530782) and say please, let me be a part of your program.
The fact that you signed up with a sponsorship program doesn't allow you to open your mouth if you think they didn't give
you the right attitude.. Nobody owes you nothing here

I just hate when decent webmasters get flamed by demanding newbies,

Cheers,
Jazzmaster

porsche

10-07-2001, 07:47 PM

It is a shame when people get into this business and not treat for what it is,
a real business!
Many Webmasters depend on not only getting their money but getting it on time !
Fortunatly www.customdialer.com (http://www.customdialer.com) doesn't
have those problems.

donger

10-07-2001, 07:49 PM

You're fucking retarded:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by euphamon:
I wanted courtesy though, not cash...

You're messaging somebody "oi dickhed," and complaining about others being discourteous in the same breath?

You've really outed yourself as an idiot with this post. Surprisingly, it took 57 posts to do it. :D

Dawgy

10-07-2001, 07:54 PM

euphamon

10-07-2001, 07:55 PM

Firstly ill say it again, I recommend you stay away from ultimatedialers.

I don't care if he pays like gates
and just in
"Well I am glad people agree with you on this one..
thanks for the exposure and attempt at slander, this should grab me a few more signups..
please go and post at the other boards too, it is free advertising"

That's a plain admission to spamming in itself. On top of the rest of the wayward conversation.

and concerning the fact that ICQ automatically changes status to N/A, I'm aware of that, however I explained that also.

"why didnt you reply?
guilty concience?"

"LOL, please tell me what I have to be guilty about and perhaps I can see if I feel guilty about it"

"Abolsutely nothing as far as I would have known.

But you wouldnt reply until I told you that I was just contacting you about a simple mistake

An email for confirmation saying I was michael, when I'm simon"

"HA!
yea, either that or I wasn't at the computer..
instead of pinning me to be a crook or an asshole try some logic in it first, it might save you from offending people in the future"

"I've used some logic

I contacted you with a message asking if you were from ultimatedialers, note: ICQ status online - no reply *starts thinkin*
Then you come off away when I return, no replies to msg recieved whilst away, if in fact you were away

You reply when I alert you to that fact that I'm contacting you about a mishap, as opposed to what I couldve been contacting you about - you owe me a million, where is it.

I gotta start thinking don't I?"

And Unconnected, I've been in the porn biz for approx. two monthes, not even long enough to form any opinions about anyone, and I definetly don't constitute a bigshot, and so your talking to someone totally unbiased towards anything related. I take things as they appear.

Just don't use em any newbies out there, just take my word for it, he ain't a nice person, and may or may not be honest, but my personal estimation is that he isn't.

euph

toker

10-07-2001, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by porsche:
It is a shame when people get into this business and not treat for what it is,
a real business!
Many Webmasters depend on not only getting their money but getting it on time !
Fortunatly www.customdialer.com (http://www.customdialer.com) doesn't
have those problems.

I guess you think its ok to start spamming eveyone with you i havent made a signle payment but i always pay bullshit on every dialer shit huh?

Fuck this dialer stuff is getting out of hand and i hope the FTC shuts down all dialers pretty soon. If you get screwed by some lame ass who needs to spam and lie then you only ask to get ripped in my view.

teaser

10-07-2001, 08:09 PM

:eek:

Well considering that its :

A. Sunday
B. World issues are very tedious right now with the U.S. declaring war...everyones dealing with that alot of webmasters are perched over T.V's watching the news, and such so ICQ's are left unwatched for long mins/hours of time.

Its safe to assume that he wasn't ignorning you and then adding fuel to the fire..If you don't know someone opening up with a razz is not going to get you on the top of their "happy to know you" list.

Yes, you mentioned that you icq'd twice before did you perhaps think maybe hes looking into this before sending me a Q back? Checking my acct so he knows who I am?

The first thing I do when someone "new" icq's me is check their details. Do i know this person? Is this a fundie gonna flame me for pushing <gasp> porn? Then I go on from there I'm sure alot of other webmasters do the same thing only in a different manner.

If someone icq'd me with the message oi-dickhead...I'd ignore there butt and then cut them off from any progam I might have...

Some people need to realize this is a biz. That we all need to act professional and treat each other as we would any other co-worker. I think thats what makes the difference now in the flash in the pan newbies and those that slowly move up the ladder of success..

Just my 2cents :p

On a personal note, yeah he is normally so damn busy that I know if I send him an icq it might be a day before its answered shooting him an e*mail always gets me a faster response.

He has also been one of the most HELPFUL people I've met in getting me up and running on sites that I needed an experts advice never asking for anything but my friendship..

Teaser :)

strife

10-07-2001, 08:11 PM

unconnected

10-07-2001, 08:14 PM

"not even long enough to form any opinions about anyone, "

"Just don't use em any newbies out there, just take my word for it, he ain't a nice person, and may or may not be honest, but my personal estimation is that he isn't"

You know what I love ? Consistency..
Way too funny

Tokolosh

10-07-2001, 08:16 PM

Ultimatediallers ALWAYS has paid me on time, the minutes are better than any other dialler I have used.
Listen, Unconnected, don't worry about morons like this Euphamon - let him screw up and go back to pumping gas. And Euphamon 'Better to be quiet and thought an idiot, than to open your mouth and be proved right!'

Keep rockin' with the minutes Brotha!!!!

euphamon

10-07-2001, 08:31 PM

These really sound like unbiased replies.

How sad are you? But what you don't seem to understand is that the apt will see what's going on, they'll also be aware of selective perusing - I gave several polite messages before resorting to the oi dikhed - No rep.

lol this' funny stuff, so many people lying en masse, I could draw parallels with the media.

Sorry fellas, no cigar, nice try - I know whats gone on, and I'm not the oversensitive type, especially when dealing with webmasters Take it easy guys and better luck convincing others of falsehoods :)

Goodluck ultimatedialers, I'm sure your fantastic for a select few.

Keep the replies commin' too, it's fun arguing with reality on side, and when it's so obvious who the ones are "speakin a lil'...". :)
Give me some new stuff to reply to also, feel free to get as creative as you choose.

euph

kmanrox

10-07-2001, 08:36 PM

Ultimate Dialers has paid me for my 1100 minutes per day for over 8 months without missing a payment... That is all I have to say on this matter, I get great response time and great service too...

shane94

10-07-2001, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by JazzMaster:
Yo everybody,

I know the guy that runs ultimatedialers.com
and I get more money from him in a month than you're probably make in a year with the
other shitty dialers out there.



Tell you what I will show you the wires for a month that i get off my dialer and I bet you shut your mouth. It really pisses me off when people come on this board with one post and say shit. You have no info in your profile so as far as i know you are NOBODY. One thing resellers or any sponcer needs to understand is that cust service is pirioty #1 and of course payment. Treat them all like gold (the webmaster). I think some people forget this...

Shane

euphamon

10-07-2001, 08:42 PM

Err? So can you not read or are you dyslexic with the old mouse? :)

Member Status:
Little Jerk
Member Number:
3445
Registered:
08 August 2001
Posts:
59
Location:
Melbourne, Australia
Occupation:
Webmaster
Homepage: http://movies.teen-house.com/razormoviepost/
Interests:
porn
ICQ ID:
22735354

nothin to hide.

That's what you've got going against you.

toker

10-07-2001, 09:06 PM

HaHa now i get a message on ICQ from the owner SPAMMER of customdialer.com porsche..

Webmaster: Please read what i write I said we have been in the "ONLINE" biz since that long not the dialer biz !

look at your history ! please

Toker: So whats the point i been online for 11 years and ive never heard of any program you ran..

Webmaster: Great and I never said you are a scam or anything but we are not as well
I do not think that all dialer companies are the same that's why my
example about the butcher.

I need to go but will be back soon !

Webmaster: IC

so you must work for a dialer company ?

Toker: nope i dont work for one i dont use one and never will again..

Webmaster: that's fine .

I would like you o take off/edit your post about our personal info please, i am sure most ppl on AWI are able to do a whois themself
but we do not want our personal info advertised by other for no reason. Hope you understand.

Toker: naw thats ok like you said you dont have anything to hide so its no big deal..

Webmaster: so i guess you don't mind just anyone posting all your info all over boards ?
intresting.

( i will not ask again after this. but mostly when ppl post whois on boards its about companies that owe money) we have done nothing wrong. why should we be publicist as if we have ?

Toker: I dont care about my info pretty much everyone knows who i am and my info is not hidden anyone is free to contact me and i have never screwed people to need to worry about it..

although i just posted a little part of this convo but plain and simple this is not a webmaster giving a good word. This is a dialer reseller pushing his spam tring to get users and my advice thats why i posted his shit..

This make post #2 of his spam crusade so you can judge it how you see it..

Jimbo

10-07-2001, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by euphamon:
dialermaster.com - Didn't recieve any correspondence 3 days after signing up; contacted via ICQ about hosting the dialer - no response.
"...I signup up like 3 days ago to your dialer company, no email no nothin..."
Explained that he'd had a problem, I accepted that and asked if I would ever recieve it - no response.
Told him I'd go to the boards - "Man I pay everyone..You won't here bad things about me!"
I wanted courtesy though, not cash...

as for the first time, I didn't get your ICQ msg or you didn't get my answer.... and how could you have done that if you added me to your ICQ list 3 days ago (app.)?

the second time is right... I explained you the problem and all you found doing is go spam board....

Jimbo
dialermaster.com

minerva

10-07-2001, 09:17 PM

I've received payment from Ultimate Dialers every 2 weeks for the past 6 months since the first day I signed up with them. I have no problem contacting the guy who owns UD anytime on ICQ or e-mail. Maybe you contacted him while he was away for a few days? This sounds more like a personal problem.

euphamon

10-07-2001, 09:36 PM

Jimbo, I only contacted you once, 3 days after not recieving the dialer, and I accepted your explanation for that, but unfortunately, I'd already signed up to Ultimate in between that time, hence the reference to time constraints in ICQ.

Anyway, 'pologies for mentioning you in the same breath as unconnected...there really is no comparison - imho. But after not sleeping, and then having to deal with that, I just through you in the post.

ehe ironic nick too unconnected...packet by packet.
noodles? negative...
enjoy figuring

euph

Hamlet

10-07-2001, 09:51 PM

It appears that, when not completely contradicting himself, Euphamon’s only argument for Ultimate Dialers being an illegitimate company to do business with is that their representative didn’t answer his icq right away even though it was presumably on “online” status. Well, as Dawgy mentioned, and should have ended this thread there and then, ICQ can be left, as i leave mine frequently, on “online” mode and switched to “N/A” mode automatically without assistance from the user. (For 99% I realize this explanation is like explaining why breathing is necessary for survival, but as the initiator of this thread has clearly demonstrated, some people need to be walked through even the basics in life). As this was Euphamon’s only major concern with Ultimate Dialers (since such an error as a needed name change could easily be corrected by the company), and since it has been argued more than should be needed, I would ask for Euphamon to retract his complaint in the name of logic which he proclaims to have some grasp of. However, that being said, I also would ask for World Peace, but then again, I certainly don’t see that happening any time soon.

shane94

10-07-2001, 10:08 PM

Originally posted by euphamon:
Err? So can you not read or are you dyslexic with the old mouse? :)

Member Status:
Little Jerk
Member Number:
3445
Registered:
08 August 2001
Posts:
59
Location:
Melbourne, Australia
Occupation:
Webmaster
Homepage: http://movies.teen-house.com/razormoviepost/
Interests:
porn
ICQ ID:
22735354

nothin to hide.

That's what you've got going against you.

I was talking to JazzMaster not you :D

Shane

euphamon

10-07-2001, 10:11 PM

Hamlet, that isn't happening, like I said.

I messaged him... "Hi there, do you run ultimate dialers?"...No rep - At this point he was online, not away, after about 20min of ignorance he had it set to away. At that point I went offline, returned, and he was online again, I gave him another 10, thinking maybe he'd reply, since he may well have been away - *still* no response.
UNTIL

"oi dikhed? you gonna reply, prob with my account havin the wrong name."

haha believe me, the most alarming part of that is the fact that I'd mentioned that I was contacting him for a simple acct foul up.
I wouldnt have got *any* reply if I'd left the matter undisclosed in my estimation - and that would have been more than acceptable on my behalf since I'd already inquired as to whether it was who I was supposed to talk to and got no reply, so as of that point I had no obligation of furtherance of the conversation - since he hadn't even replied, I had to go to the website to match the ICQ #'s

euph

dialerking

10-07-2001, 10:36 PM

Now the king will have he’s say:

first of all, ultimatedialers i would not trust with a 10 foot pole. They make up bullshit about other dialer companies when in actual fact they work for telco.
ONCE A LIER ALWAYS A LIER!!!

The bad mouthing that they gave our company was a sign of jealousy, We had no dealings with them and they go around bad mouthing and making up lies. No professional company would do such a thing.

Thats why we WILL retaliate with anyone badmouthing our company for no good reason. Whether it is legal wise or on this board.
We do not tolerate scum like ultimatedialers making false claims about us.

Be warned ultimatedialers, you continue and we will take all necessary steps to put a stop to you.

good luck
dialerking.com

gse

10-07-2001, 10:45 PM

hahaha, hahaha, hahaha

old, stale, boring.....

My wires, my minutes, my check, my.....

How about MY fist crushing YOUR skull?

hehe, people have fun while it lasts, the Apocalypse is near :D

candidpublishinginc

10-07-2001, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by dialerking:
Now the king will have he’s say:

first of all, ultimatedialers i would not trust with a 10 foot pole. They make up bullshit about other dialer companies when in actual fact they work for telco.
ONCE A LIER ALWAYS A LIER!!!

The bad mouthing that they gave our company was a sign of jealousy, We had no dealings with them and they go around bad mouthing and making up lies. No professional company would do such a thing.

Thats why we WILL retaliate with anyone badmouthing our company for no good reason. Whether it is legal wise or on this board.
We do not tolerate scum like ultimatedialers making false claims about us.

Be warned ultimatedialers, you continue and we will take all necessary steps to put a stop to you.

good luck
dialerking.com

Bruce,

No offense or anything, but weren't you the one that went on their spam post on the announcement board and said "Why go with them....their rates are lower than ours LOL"?

Maybe I'm missing something. Did they say something hostile to you before that?

dialerking

10-07-2001, 11:04 PM

hi michael,
yes that was part of our retaliation on the badmouthing they gave us. read the claims they have made about us prior to our retalition.

like i said we DO retaliate on anyone that fires the first shot.

also michael contact me about what we spoke about last week.

regards
dialerking.com

porsche

10-07-2001, 11:07 PM

I would like to apologize to "euphamon"
for spaming his thread.
It is not our intention to be known as spamers. To "toker" as well and everyone reading this thread. Both have been contacted by ICQ and I hope that this apology is accepted by the readers as well.

harvey

10-07-2001, 11:18 PM

As I always say: It's funny to see how many people signs only to say the truth they hidden until the moment when the truth has to be revealed :)

Welcome you all and thanx for sharing the truth with us!

Peace
Harvey

unconnected

10-07-2001, 11:45 PM

Put a stop to us?
Hahahah, DK, you are living in a dream world aren't you?
You pay the money to have me extradited to whatever country you are in, and my lawyers will have a hayday with you as you have nothing to put a stop to...
Hey DK, tell me again how much your dialer charges the surfer... Yell and bitch and threated all you want, I can sleep at night knowing that I am not putting someone out of house and home with an 8.00/hour dialer thank you very much..
Point out one of my 'lies' and we will see what I have to say about that.
And Professionalism??!?! Got you are too much http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=004090

My man, you have completely forfeited your right to ever claim any association with or authority on professionalism.. Go crawl back to that little hole of yours and craddle your 5% market share, because we don't want to hear that buzzing eminating from your mouth any longer

dialerking

10-08-2001, 12:06 AM

ryan of ultimatedialers...
you are soooo dumb. we have our head office in NV USA. We have a branch very close to you in El Monte and we have a branches in australia and the uk. So get your facts straight again before you shoot your mouth off and make a total fool of yourself.

Your rates are that low i doubt you have more than 10 webmasters in your program :)
Those 10 webmasters are rally stupid and dont know any better than to deal with a lier.

Gaz

10-08-2001, 12:54 AM

I see euphamon has only been in this biz for two months! Boy, does he have a lot to learn.
As big as this internet might seem, it's a small world. Euphamon a word of advise. Before you start slagging off someone on message boards for something as trivial as waiting for a response, make sure you know who you are talking to/about, they just might be the same person you are going to try submitting your sites to in the future!
It's a MUCH smaller world than you think!
I signed up for Ultimate Dialers a few weeks back and have had all of my inquiries answered in a timely manner. I can't speak for anyone else, but I regularly can't reply to emails or icq as quickly as I'd like. Computers go down, servers go down, we have to go out or away from time to time. There are countless reasons a reply might be delayed but perhaps most relevent for you, I often don't receive icq messages that someone has told me they've sent! Why I don't know, but it happens!

unconnected

10-08-2001, 01:06 AM

None of those offices are anywhere near where I am.. I am soooo dumb eh? Hehe, speaking of professionalism..Well we have two sites for you..
that Americannannys.com and dictionary.com , go take your GED and get back to me would ya.. I would love to continue this lively discussion but unfortunately I can't make out anything your are attempting to spell...
And if you want to talk offices, then go ahead..
spend all the money you want on offices, but it isn't going to change who your are or your business...If it makes you feel better about yourself, well then kudos to you..I would rather spend the money on advertising, or a much needed support staff (aparrently)
HA! :D
Take care

euphamon

10-08-2001, 01:13 AM

No your not forgiven porche fuck off! :) JJ

I thought of a way to eliminate spam before sleep the other night. If I want an unbiased opinion ill ask people to give me a minimum of 2-3 companies which are good, that would eliminate spam.

Unconnected, he's right you know man, you are possibly a liar, well that maybe a bit harsh, but I mean you mislead all these people and tried to make me look bad when you know what went on, I'm not out to get you, I just took it as face value. And as I said to Porche, maybe I'm still to learn that it isn't protocol in this biz to complain or go to the boards about poor customer service and being obnoxious and ignorant.

But it still stands, your a fucken cunt imo
:)

lolol and it was so enjoyable dealing with all your buddies poor attempts at backing you up, one by one, and I'm on an off day, and I haven't slept. Alone and dismissing all your aguments with fact, not lies and trickieness, as you did.
It's a pitty you weren't in the right champ, I'd have had more of a challenge forming a premise founded on bullshit - though maybe only slightly more of a challenge.

euph

kmanrox

10-08-2001, 01:24 AM

hey DK -- you can't even spell, what makes us think that youcan connect phone lines to computers?

"ONCE A LIER ALWAYS A LIER!!!"

hehe just mt $.02

unconnected

10-08-2001, 01:25 AM

The thing is that I have people backing me up, friends, collegues and people that use my program.. But they are there backing me up..
Your opinion is one that belongs to you and you alone.. Well and DK, but he really doesn't count because no one listens to him anyways...
So one person yelling and screaming and 20 saying their opinion sort of points to you being in the wrong, not I...
Nice try though, and good luck with whoever you find to take your tantrums and to hold your hand..
imo of course, :D
Http://www.ultimatedialers.com
7 Great niches
Payouts on time all the time

euphamon

10-08-2001, 01:33 AM

And my friend, if spelling is your primary concern, you cannot be attentive to the idea that etymology and eloquent fluency is the means to a successful colloquial rhetoric and a successful social veneer.

run along dikhed. Logic isn't my low point as you may have led yourself to believe. Neither is trying to sense out my self conciousnous.

Come back soon

euph

kmanrox

10-08-2001, 01:36 AM

Oi! I'd be glad to come by... Ive been in this biz since 1995, son... How long havey ou been in it? Huh? 2 months? Sorry to hear that... How many minutes do you produce per day? Huh? Under 10? Mmmmm great..

Suckit up newbie, go to the Newbie section =-P
http://www.rawpussy.com http://www.plainlist.com/list.shtml http://www.nichebucks.com http://www.secret-galleries.com http://www.thickchicks.com http://www.knocked-up.com

Hahaha I love watchin newbies crash n burn! ;-)

euphamon

10-08-2001, 01:46 AM

hmm And your IQ is comparable to what diminutive quantity?

I'm gonna catch a nap, keep em comin, it's all good fun knowing you can't lose, especially when dealing with someone who's reached the pinnacle of they're life with sign-up's and a few internet scams. :)
This' just a fun hobby for me, you? hmm?

Admin, let me know when I've gone too far with this, ill stop.

G'night :)

euph

toker

10-08-2001, 01:52 AM

Hmm..

Dialerking were you abused as a child??

The hostile words of threats for lawsuits and all the other shit you talk sure makes me believe so. I think you feel a form of power because you have a few dollars in your pocket now. :rolleyes:

I would love to know the truth what is dialer king anyone in this biz ever seen his wonderous offices hes bragging about??

Real Kings dont need to fight with lawyers they have the power of loyalty to win their battles. I dont see anyone sticking their neck out to show loyalty to you thats for dam sure. I could care less myself you can sue me for slander or whatever you see it as but then again all you have is ego. I dont think you could even afford the legal fees to get a lawyer to call me collect let alone sue me.

I know unconnected is comming up in life and all with his success but dont be jealous your time will come eventually.. :)

Maybe for your birthday unconnected will have your aluminum crown gold plated for you as a peaceful gesture.

You want to attack me back sure id love everyone to see it like they say negitive publicity is better then no publicity.

You can go crawl back in your hole now.. ;)

Thor

10-08-2001, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by euphamon:
And my friend, if spelling is your primary concern, you cannot be attentive to the idea that etymology and eloquent fluency is the means to a successful colloquial rhetoric and a successful social veneer.

run along dikhed. Logic isn't my low point as you may have led yourself to believe. Neither is trying to sense out my self conciousnous.

Come back soon

euph

he wasnt talking to you, he was talking to DK

richard

10-08-2001, 05:22 AM

You can trust both UltimateDialers and dialermaster, i work with both these guys.

Sounds like another newbie shit stirring to me?

dialerking

10-08-2001, 05:35 AM

Funny how toker defends ultimate dialers.
maybe because toker made ultimate dialers website http://www.bizfrontier.net/portfolio/

rofl at all these little resellers!!! No clue on how to run a business.

Toker when you have a few million in your bank account then say something...for the mean time you better crawl back under your little rock.

Let us set something straight. There are various people at the dialerking offices are taking turns on this chat board. It isn’t one individual.
:D :cool: : :confused: :p :) :( :cool:

Dcorp

10-08-2001, 07:35 AM

Originally posted by JazzMaster:
Yo everybody,

I know the guy that runs ultimatedialers.com
and I get more money from him in a month than you're probably make in a year with the
other shitty dialers out there.

Maybe sign up with a really high techie respectable company like sextracker's dialer,
wait a month and buy a pound of beans with the money you'll be getting from them.

Ultimate pays top $ for your minutes and their cheques are in the mail right on time,
twice a month.

So catch their webmaster (icq-9530782) and say please, let me be a part of your program.
The fact that you signed up with a sponsorship program doesn't allow you to open your mouth if you think they didn't give
you the right attitude.. Nobody owes you nothing here

I just hate when decent webmasters get flamed by demanding newbies,

Cheers,
Jazzmaster

Post: 1

this seems you are from ultimatedialers.com

:D aren't you :confused:

euphamon

10-08-2001, 09:19 AM

Thor, he mentioned it to me earlier in the post aswell.

And Richard, exactly, you work with him, so wtf would I or any other hold your opinion in any regard?
pfft newbie stirring...for WHAT?? he owes me nothing.

As I've said the onlookers who aren't replying are the ones I'm proud of, not the village bum chumbs. This guy from ultimatedialers is a prick imo, and ill stand by that till the end.

I don't care about your business relations, nor do I have any invested interest in anything of any importance to anyone here - so keep your tricky advertising and interests to yourself and don't impose them on me.

euph

intelliweb

10-08-2001, 11:21 AM

Hi, I host ultimate dialers, along with 30 other sites for unconnected and have never had a problem with him paying me. I myself would recommend ultimate dialers to any of my hundreds of hosting customers. Unconnected is a great guy!

Ben Wilcox
Intelliweb Adult Hosting (http://adult.intelliwebplus.com) ben@esyr.net

richard

10-08-2001, 01:04 PM

I can't comment about support or the relationship with the reseller (i dont use them as my "sponsor"), but from a financial point of view, both these resellers in question are going to pay you.

Sure, i'm not going to say "dont trust these guys", why? because my company does business with them- being trustworthy is a pre-requisite.

Trust them, make money (like the other people backing them both up), and be happy...

..or come to me and get better rates :D

j/k ;).

unconnected

10-08-2001, 03:14 PM

No, but what your incredible grammatical mistakes, paired with your irrational and self-centered attitude does tell me is that you are a 16 year old with a Thesaurus.. So go on spouting out all of these extranious and redundant words, it matters not to anyone here... A monkey dressed up in a suite and tie is still a monkey, no matter what you put him in or how you show him off..

aquitaine

10-08-2001, 03:42 PM

I wouldnt want to diss you Euph, but all so many people saying that ultimate pays on time everytime cant be wrong.

I'm sure that the time difference in Australia and Canada has a lot to do with it. Perhaps unconnected was just about ready to hit the sack when you messaged him ?

I never ever had a problem with him. In fact the way i know him he's a great guy and the one thing that you really feel when you work with him is honesty.

Thats something really important to me, might not make a difference to you. But its pretty important to me, when you really plan to build a long relationship with a company it does count.

Now a fly by night, see my cool website guy might think otherwise. But hey im sure you plan to stick around and make the most of this scene.

So give it a shot, try ultimate out. you really dont have anything to lose out on. There is no way that ultimate is going to give you any problems..

I personally never have any problems with him and am really surprised to find even a single person saying otherwise.. He is honestly a great guy to deal with. I do some CGI work for him and he allways pays on time and is really supportive.

Im sure you'll see the same..

Cheers.

unconnected

10-08-2001, 04:53 PM

Hehe, Toker didn't make the website you baffoon, ask him yourself, he cannot claim credit for that as it isn't his work..
If you want the designer then I am more than happy to connect you with him...
But once again nice try..

basschick

10-08-2001, 04:57 PM

euphamon, icq is often a problem - i tried to get a dialogue going with a couple people, they never answered, i found out they weren't receiving my messages at all.

perhaps you are jumping to conclusions. for all you knew, his house was burning down. not receiving an answer on icq for a few minutes seems like a very poor reason for this thread.

ryan has paid me - my checks are small, but he hasn't missed one - twice a month.

courtesy is nice, but ryan and i didn't even know each other the first time we spoke. he has always been considerate and timely.

toker

10-08-2001, 05:11 PM

Yep its true Hamlet made the site as he also stated that in another post regarding ultimatedialers..

So now you can try another one because i made $0 off Unconnected and have nothing to gain for defending him. Yes me and Hamlet work on some projects and Hamlet is a GREAT guy never screwed anyone. :)

Now GFY DialerCunt you talk as if you had millions HAHA What a fuckin ididot... You have so much cash that you have to charge surfers almost 3x what other dialers charge yea i believe that one..

I know Unconnected for anyone who wants the truth.. I know him as a person who i would say is trust worthy. Matter fact i almost decided to use his dialer but the way things are going not on his part just the dialer biz i choose not to right now. I have a dialer from him ill give you the fuckin ID to verify with telco but you wont find one on my site from him nor anyone else.

So maybe DialerCunt can come up with another reason possibly??

Matter fact DialerCunt how bout some pictures of your great offices??

Love to see how you can shoot yourself in the foot over and over and over man it just gives me a good laugh.

BTW Keep shootin my URLs god knows i could always use a free plug.. :)

unconnected

10-08-2001, 05:47 PM

Yeppers, that is for sure..
can't complain too much about the exposure :)
Take notice of two things, DK and this Euph fellow have demonstrated their 'professionalism' and have reduced themselves to calling me names(very nice), a great sign of a victory for them close at hand, secondly DK has yet to confirm how much he is charging the US surfers that use his dialers.. When the shit hits the fan about that we will see who is putting a stop to me, and who is being stopped...

Ultimatedialers.com
Up to 42 Cents per minute flat

10-08-2001, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by shane94:


Tell you what I will show you the wires for a month that i get off my dialer and I bet you shut your mouth. It really pisses me off when people come on this board with one post and say shit. You have no info in your profile so as far as i know you are NOBODY. One thing resellers or any sponcer needs to understand is that cust service is pirioty #1 and of course payment. Treat them all like gold (the webmaster). I think some people forget this...

Shane

Could not agree more..

euphamon

10-09-2001, 07:08 PM

"No, but what your incredible grammatical mistakes, paired with your irrational and self-centered attitude does tell me is that you are a 16 year old with a Thesaurus.. So go on spouting out all of these extranious and redundant words, it matters not to anyone here... A monkey dressed up in a suite and tie is still a monkey, no matter what you put him in or how you show him off.."

Your wrong all accounts.
I think I've already shown that I can deal with you with ease; at any point in time I choose. So fly fly away harlequin, your boring me - I can see your one of those who is built on a set of standard replies, you'll go on and on at a sustainable mediocre level, to try cover for inferiority.

You have my opinion on this guy AWI, treat it however you like but it isn't as innocent as the lies may have led you to believe - I have no invested in anything related :)
Remember - Ultimatedialers.com = a HUGE ? - your better off choosing another just to cut the risk factor associated with all his nonsense.

euph

AnthonyO

10-09-2001, 10:44 PM

jesus christ.. .43 cents per minute for over 1000 fucking minutes? Thats crazy.. ICQ me and i'll tell u a place that will give you 65 cents for having over 1000 minutes daily13281574

Mole

10-10-2001, 12:49 AM

After following this thread awhile I've made some observations.

Sure, there has been a great deal of posts from people who back up both dialers.

However, the number of total posts for these people are like 2-3. Doesn't give you much credibility here. You could have 100 people with 1-2 posts posting for all I care, but it wouldn't weight up against 1 single long time poster telling the same.

If the people praising where long time posters with at least a few hundred posts behind them, that would make it much more credible.

On the other hand, all those old timers who have posted in this thread so far has revealed either that they they use other dialers, don't use dialers at all, or hate dialers with a passion.

Lemme do a summarize:
(The numbers are no. of posts)
Ultimate dialer praisers:

freekie 23
JazzMaster 1
teaser 2
Tokolosh 3
kmanrox 35
minerva 13
Gaz 1
intelliweb 3
aquitaine 8
basschick 1358 (finally a long time poster)
But she admit that her checks are small...

Use other dialers:

shane94 822

Hate dialers:

toker 1318

richard (2288) did have good words for both the dialers, however he says he only "works" with them and do not use them. Hmmm???

I'll quote what shane94 wrote earlier which basicly hits the nail straight on the head:

"It really pisses me off when people come on this board with one post and say shit. You have no info in your profile so as far as i know you are NOBODY. One thing resellers or any sponcer needs to understand is that cust service is pirioty #1 and of course payment. Treat them all like gold (the webmaster). I think some people forget this..."

sandman

10-10-2001, 01:30 AM

dialermaster.com pays go stir some shit somewhere else people

unconnected

10-10-2001, 02:27 AM

Anthony: 65 cents FLAT rate for over 1000 minutes a day(1000 minutes = 650.00 USD)
Which countries minutes are counted?
How much are you charging the surfer?
and which dialer company are you using?

unconnected

10-10-2001, 02:33 AM

Wrong on all accounts am I? Your mediocre grammer in even this post proves at least one of my points, and it seems as if the kettle is calling the pot black in this case, as all you have done is pull big words out of your ass in a meager attempt to sound intelligent, and this mind you is all you have done.. So if you want to start talking about standard replies, perhaps you should come up with something more original than your own standard set of replies yes?

Ultimatedialers.com
Great Rates, Great Niches, GREAT DIALERS!
Your wrong all accounts.
I think I've already shown that I can deal with you with ease; at any point in time I choose. So fly fly away harlequin, your boring me - I can see your one of those who is built on a set of standard replies, you'll go on and on at a sustainable mediocre level, to try cover for inferiority.

donger

10-10-2001, 02:50 AM

Originally posted by euphamon:

"So fly fly away harlequin, your boring me - I can see your one of those who is built on a set of standard replies, you'll go on and on at a sustainable mediocre level, to try cover for inferiority."


Man, i hate to contribute to a huge, flaming, thread like this, but
are you fucking retarded? This is the most stilted, stupid sounding prose I've ever read. You seem to get more and more foolish with every post, and that's saying a lot, considering how this thread got started ;).

10-10-2001, 03:02 AM

dialermaster.com owed me 300$ before 3-4 months ago. and he never paid.
that was my first dialer experience, and I don't get my dialer revenue fuck!

snow

10-10-2001, 03:38 AM

Cmon man this post is pathetic... You actually started a post cause you signed up and didnt get an awnser JESUS.... See all you dialer guys are gonna see all the bullshit IWent through starting out...

Ryan is a good guy and does alot of busines.. Anyone who does alot of business is doing something right.. People can always talk shit and say this and that but everyone knows Ido a ton of minutes as well.

Why does snow do a ton of minutes i hear people say hes an asshole.I hear people say hes cool,The bottom line is PROPAGANDA doesnt do anything... The more people that knock me the more signups i get....

For all the negative comments,Iget Just as many positive.. Business is a numbers game YOU CAN NEVER make everyone happy and ryan has to realise this is is one of those guys..

I'm backing him cause i have known him and he does a great job SO FUCK OFF.

The real TOPIC is DIALERKING.. Do you now this guy crank called me last nite faking a russian female accent. You guys have no idea how proffessional this monkey is...

DIALERS are a huge topic guys cause it's massive source of income for people.. The old school guys always bitch cause they have there years of recurring signups.. People who just started rely on dialers.. Many peope cant make a cent without a dialer,that is why its a huge topic.

You may have been 1 guy he forgot to respond to or a human mistake for gods sakes man.
SNOW

snow

10-10-2001, 03:41 AM