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snow
10-08-2001, 08:54 PM
All the resellers and dialer platforms want to know why you charge so much?? I have asked you this question many times and you seem to change the subject...

Make your little childish accusations the fact is why do you charge so much??

I'm speaking for all the dialer companies..

Jon
10-08-2001, 08:57 PM
I think I can answer this one...

Because its so expensive keeping other dialer companys from using his trademark crown...All those lawyer costs add up ;)

Jon

snow
10-08-2001, 09:00 PM
Since he has nothing to do with my business and he insists on making trouble i will hit all the radio shows and destroy him... Np king you want to play NP...

unconnected
10-08-2001, 09:02 PM
I second that one, as I have asked it before..
You are going to have the FTC come down on all of us like a bat out of hell because of those high rates.. Varadox is in the same boat, even though it is only 4.99 per minute... It is reason why all of this shit is hitting the fan, starting all with Nitelines nice 10.99/min dialer...
You brag constantly about your high rates and how 'low' my rates are..
You forget to mention that you are going to be shutdown in a few months when the FTC shoves a huge monstrous fine up your ass...
So please do tell us, because a Telco reseller can pay out to 50 cents or so for US minutes to webmasters on a 2.99 per minute route and you are only paying 50% more for a route that costs the surfer 300% more..
So please, in your upmost professional manner, do tell me how you call yourself the king when you keep so much of it in your pocket
:cool:

snow
10-08-2001, 09:03 PM
I wan't to see how he's gonna awnser this

Platinum Dave
10-08-2001, 09:10 PM
Wow thanks for bringing this to my attention Snow, this is utter rip off to the surfer which will bring the FTC, the media, the government, the phone companies all the attention towards Dialers, not only dialers but Porn on the net in general. The more the word gets out that Porn is a rip off the more people that stay away, the more people that stay away the less money everyone makes.

How can Dialer King, charge that type of money to the surfers and look himself in the mirror in the morning and say ya, I am the shit. I think that is bull shit you are nothing if you want to rip off the poor surfer and put a bad name on the entire industry I have no, none, zero respect for you at all.

I dont normally rant like this, but this bothers me cause it affect everyone, maybe not right away, but it trickles down the chain, then everyone pays for your rip off tactics.

Enough said, I hope you get shut down sooner then later with those rip off rates.

Good bye :o

snow
10-08-2001, 09:13 PM
I'm in a bit of a jam with all this stuff that happened and it will work out,but i'm also here to inform my people as well that this guy is a crook... He is alos Tied in with SEXHOUND...

There are pleanty of other dialers out there who dont rip the surfer

snow
10-08-2001, 09:15 PM
I'm off to the gym cant wait to see what dialercunt has to say....

dialerking
10-08-2001, 09:18 PM
the reason is quite simple....because you can't rofl.

snow say what you want, do what you want (with all of your ass wipes) it dont bother us.

snow
I want to thankyou for sending so many webmasters to us over the last few weeks. :)

heres an idea for your next excuse for not paying webmasters with jet dialer....

"somebody hijacked jetdialer, so i am unable to pay"

Once again thankyou for sending those webmasters.



good luck
dialerking.com

run
10-08-2001, 09:19 PM
easy way to get somebody out of bussiness: (copyrighted by snow i believe)

post on board and hit 100 icq numbers to post replies.

:)

Jon
10-08-2001, 09:21 PM
Dialerking...$7.99 a min is a rip off...

Dialers will be hit hard soon because of companys like you...

Jon

shane94
10-08-2001, 09:26 PM
Damn DK that is a pretty shitty answer...I am not friends with Snow or nothing but I really did want to see the answer the question...oh I forgot you only answer questions and make spam comments. I know I have asked several questions that have gone unanswered so I will proabably see the same thing here.

Shane

mr man
10-08-2001, 09:56 PM
I think it's a fair question. Why are you charging the surfer $7.99 per minute, when the other big companies are either charging $2.99, $3.99, or $4.99 per minute? And just because you can do it, does not mean you should be doing it. I really like dialers, and make good money from them, and I'm afraid your ruining it for everyone. Rape and Pillage, great fucking business model.

mr man
10-08-2001, 09:58 PM
for that matter, $4.99 is really stupid too, it's greed pure and simple. Talk about ruining a good thing.

Dcorp
10-08-2001, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by qualitythumbs:
<STRONG>I think I can answer this one...

Because its so expensive keeping other dialer companys from using his trademark crown...All those lawyer costs add up ;)

Jon</STRONG>

you're right
:D :D :D

snow
10-08-2001, 11:21 PM
Once again this dialerking guy doesnt awnser the question..Thats funny i get most of the dialer king people who said your dialer sucks.

Shane i'm your friend,I'm everyones friend.. Nice to meet you..

AWNSER THE QUESTION ??? WHY DO YOU CHARGE 7.99 a minute????

Were all waiting..Cant wait to hit the radio shows..

shane94
10-08-2001, 11:30 PM
And the board grows quiet...................as usual

snow
10-08-2001, 11:33 PM
cmon dialerking??? Were allhere waiting??? Maybe i should start hitting all the other boards... HEY whatever happened to Wolfshade and dialerclopedia.. Remember he used to talk bad about me&gt;&gt;&gt;???

Cmon Bruce lets go,put your money where your mouth is??

unconnected
10-08-2001, 11:34 PM
It is most definitely a short term business model, and he is unwilling to change..
The profits are probably huge right now, as well as the chargebacks mind you, but how much profit does a shutdown company make..
And he has too many webmasters with him that expect those higher rates and to lower from 7.99 per minute would mean lowering the rates..
and if you take away those rates then you are left with an absolutely mickey mouse dialer company...
So kind of screwed here, it is like the game of chess, you know you are going to lose as you see the checkmate coming, there isn't anything to do about it, so you put up as good of a fight until that inevitable end comes.. Bitch all you want, and blow your own horn all you want, the end will come for you, and snow and I and every other reseller will be right there to scoop up your insignificant market share..

snow
10-08-2001, 11:51 PM
What a little baby... You know he's reading all this... Ryan i already get dialerking people... GIB and Telco RULE PERIOD....


CMON dialercunt still waiting??
WHY 7.99 a minute

snow
10-08-2001, 11:54 PM
Why don't you send over Mike and Dan proctor from sexhound to talk shit again...

Still waiting??? 7.99 a minute
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toker
10-09-2001, 01:09 AM
HaHa yes all he knows how to do is try to knock people down in this biz..

Just goes to show what a lame SOB he is when he cant answer the most simple question..

unconnected
10-09-2001, 01:13 AM
No worries there, we will be getting a whole fuckload of DK people when at&t goes in there and looks at the chargebacks and does something about it..

Vegemite and Cheese
10-09-2001, 01:14 AM
Think about it this way.....when tam charges her users $4.99 a min at least your getting quality shit...man....ive seen some of the members areas and they suck ass!!

tam gets awesome hold times becuase there is a reason. Well worth the 4.99 a min i think. Sure $2.99 a min is cool...but fuck what are you getting for that $2.99...end user ppl....end user...not u!

toker
10-09-2001, 01:39 AM
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WiredGuy
10-09-2001, 01:40 AM
It's really that high? My god, that's just robbery to clients. I would have to say, that if telco and gib dialers are making a profit at 4.99 (or maybe its less), then your making a killing. But I doubt you'd get a single recurring minute from anyone who gets their phone bill before calling again, let alone the chargeback rate must be awful. Honestly, there should be caps on per minute charges and I tend to draw the line at $5.99 per minute. Anything over this and your abusing your clients really.

I would like to see an explanation as well as to why your prices are inflated compared to the competition. What are hold times like for this dialer btw?

WG

toker
10-09-2001, 01:42 AM
Whats that you say DialerScum?

Trademark ow sheit!!

I dont run a dialer company so therefore shove my crown up your arse im sure it will fit.. :D

magnatique
10-09-2001, 01:44 AM
nice crown :)

snow
10-09-2001, 02:06 AM
Still waiting for an awnser?

toker
10-09-2001, 02:34 AM
Hes busy scrubbing everyones sites to find another plan of attack.. :p

XP
10-09-2001, 02:38 AM
I think charging customer 8$/minute is terrible thing! I know dialers trying to give maximum revenue to webmasters (for being widely used) but this way is not good, no honor!

I remember a dialer (unfortunately I don't remember it name) charging 2.99$/minute only. 3$/minute is acceptable, but 8 is not!

Trax
10-09-2001, 02:49 AM
snow let me answer the question for dialerking:

i want to become fucking rich by ripping off the surfers... thats why i charge 8 bucks per min. i also don´t care if that might be dangerous for the whole dialerbiz because i earn more fucking money. that way í´m able to buy the same ferrari hun bought weeks ago too.. isn´t that nice... yes it is.. hope that answered your question


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Trax

snow
10-09-2001, 03:06 AM
Sure looks like that traxy boy... I would never say things about him ,but he chooses to start things with me a say shit so hey i'm asking a simple ??? And he can't awnser it...

This dialerking guy loves to bury bridges.

snow
10-09-2001, 03:56 AM
I really think alot of people want to know including me??? Your looking really stupid right now...

Bill-
10-09-2001, 04:15 AM
Dialers charging $8 a min just sucks. Anyone using DK dialer should get off them now especially since this lamer is chargin the surfers so much. He will definetlly fuck the dialer biz if he continues to charge this much for his own personal profits. $3 dialers is as far as it should go no more!

toker
10-09-2001, 06:22 AM
Not to mention if you say anything negitive he will go over your site and look for any shit he can talk. He has done the same shit twice when i said anything negative towards him in the past.

Now im even getting viruses all of a sudden from .au what a concidence...

Time to knock this fucker off his wannabe throne.......!

Tann
10-09-2001, 06:27 AM
I still remember these times when webmasters that made 1000 mins/day, only made 25 mins/day with DK version BS dialer :D

Beaver
10-09-2001, 06:33 AM
He couldn't charge so much if there weren't so many cock sucking webmasters willing to sign up with his piece of shite if I had my way I would throw the fucker in prison and anybody who put the crap on their website I would throw them to the mob of suckers that they prayed on to do what they liked with.
ALL dialers suck ass and the sooner you cunts are barred FOREVER the better, half the descent websites and forums spend half their time explaining to newbies how to remove the SHIT from their systems.
CUNTS the lot of you.

shane94
10-09-2001, 06:49 AM
WoW what support DK! Where are you at?? Oh I see.....a tough question has been asked and you run and hide. I guess we are just a bunch of jellous resellers who have it in for you...yeah right. Sufer wants to spend 50.00 he gets 6 minutes from your dialer...lets see that is 6.00 a call for webmaster. On a Telco he would get 17.
Lets see 17@.50 a minute for the seller is 8.33 per call for the webmaster....do the math dick head.

Shane

Zyber [SharkSkills.com]
10-09-2001, 09:35 AM
Is there an easy way of determing whether a webmaster promotes a DK dialer or not?
What should I scan the HTML for?
Or is there something in the .exe file that tells me it is a DK dialer?
I am considering to make some automated detection software.

snow
10-09-2001, 11:28 AM
Thats a great idea... If you come up with some kind of software let me know..

theo
10-09-2001, 01:13 PM
Charging a surfer $8/min is a fraud. We all want to have high rates,that's acceptable, but charging $8/min is unacceptable and this is happening for a long time. Dialers have created many problems and such situations make things even worse. What will be next? Are we gonna see a dialer charging $20/min?? The corresponding authorities should give an end ASAP.

harvey
10-09-2001, 01:21 PM
well, to tell you the truth 7.99 a min is a scam. But 3.99 is a scam, 2.99 is a scam and even 0.99 is a scam too (we're talking per minute, remember). So why are you so "concerned" about the surfer? Some kind of new fashion?

harvey
10-09-2001, 01:24 PM
what I mean is this: you Snow, DK and everybody do your own biz and stop the bullshitting in the board, most of us are really bored

theo
10-09-2001, 02:39 PM
the charge is based on an internation call that is made on a long-distance area. When we deal with $8/min we don't talk about a long distance area inside earth, but probably from moon! Anyone familiar where the phone centers are located? The charge is extreme, i haven't see such longdistance charges on simple phonecalls. Anyway, harvey is right, the board this time became for good a dialerboard.

MissMew
10-09-2001, 02:42 PM
Dialer bashing are we?

snow
10-09-2001, 04:19 PM
Awnser the Question DK???

Rui
10-09-2001, 04:54 PM
*bump* ;)

nic
10-09-2001, 05:02 PM
Didn't GIBs dialer used to be $8/min?

snow
10-09-2001, 05:32 PM
Past and current is irrelevant.

nic
10-09-2001, 08:59 PM
snow, i do recall asking you why my gib dialer said last week $4.99/min and you told me, "why does it matter? shut up and make money!"

I think per min charges are a fucking huge scam! I mean, per min, geez!

harvey
10-09-2001, 09:51 PM
Dear admins:
please, please, PLEASE!!!!! Could you close this and all Snow/DK wars? why don't you better make an special board for both of them and their armies of first time posters?

snow
10-09-2001, 11:28 PM
I have been here over 2 years first time posters lol naaaaa...

Nice to meet you Harvey..

harvey
10-10-2001, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by snow:
<STRONG>I have been here over 2 years first time posters lol naaaaa...

Nice to meet you Harvey..</STRONG>

You know what I mean and you know I wasn't talking bout you

snow
10-10-2001, 03:03 AM
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Marco
10-10-2001, 12:45 PM
I agree with Harvey as I really don't see the point of this discussion.
What does it matter if DK charges $7.99 a minute, if his dialer is ICSTIS compliant the surfer would see what he's paying per minute so he can decide how long he stays online our not, it's his own decision.

The problems in the past (and present) were caused by breaking the rules from either the FTC and/or ICSTIS.

And SNOW don't you have better things to do with your time :)

Marco

candidpublishinginc
10-10-2001, 01:09 PM
ICSTIS only applies to the UK. So only a UK surfer would see the nice little timer that shows how much they are paying for each minute. :p

shane
10-10-2001, 08:39 PM
SNOW, REALLY YOU SHOULD BE PAYING ME MY FUCKING MONEY. RATHER THAT WORRYING ABOUT THIS CHILDISH BULLSHIT....

thadog
10-10-2001, 10:58 PM
FUCKING SNOW WHAT A COCKSMOKER

YOU WERE CHARGING LDD CALLS $7.50 FOR YEARS

NOW U CANT SO UR TRYNA TAKE MORAL HIGHGROND AND SLAG OTHERS? YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITICAL FUCK

PLAYERHATING RETARD PIECE OF SHIT

WHATS YOUR IQ BUDDY? ABOUT FUCKING 40 I BET

snow
10-10-2001, 11:59 PM
Oh look it's another person with a hidden identity... WHats your url and name??

thadog
10-11-2001, 01:36 AM
NO HIDDEN IDENTITY HERE DICKHEAD

IVE POSTED AS ANDYROLLA AS LONG AS 10+ MONTHS AGO

IM NOT INTERESTED IN THESE BOARDS BECAUSE THEYRE JUST TOOLS FOR FUCKHEADS LIKE YOU

DEAL WIT THE MATTA - DEAL WIT IT PROPA SEEN

HeLiS
10-11-2001, 02:46 AM
snow is this true you use to charge $7.50/min ??? if so i'd suggest you answer your own question to DK about why you charged so high or ask for this string to be closed...

i think DK is a dickless loser but dont go at him with things you have done your self it makes you look as bad as him

Vegemite and Cheese
10-11-2001, 03:12 AM
Snow...that dude is Saddam Hussein man...look at his style of writing...if you do a search...almost similar...

snow
10-11-2001, 04:22 PM
helis that was eons ago when we all ran international lines.. Today it's law that we uses 900.. I mean i have seen a max of 4.99

Hes charging 3 more bucks why?? He runs the platform.. He can afford to pay like 4 bucks a minute to the webmasters at that rate...

He's a complete Moron.....

thadog
10-11-2001, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by snow:
<STRONG>helis that was eons ago when we all ran international lines.. </STRONG>

YOU ARE TOO FUCKING EZ SNOW

WHAT A COMPLETE FUCKING COCKSMOKER HYPOCRITE

BTW IF YOU SEARCH FOR ANDYROLLA YOULL SEE THAT IVE BEEN REGISTERED FOR ALMOST AS LONG AS SNOW

richard
10-11-2001, 09:39 PM
cocksmoker?

Fossil
10-11-2001, 10:26 PM
Originally posted by richard:
<STRONG>cocksmoker?</STRONG>

hmm...sounds like a new niche :), could be a bit painful for the guys tho :D

snow
10-11-2001, 11:19 PM
Got some news about Dalerkings dialer today.. You guys better be careful.. I also talked to smutcash today and things are looking up...Hang in there everyone will get paid..

Later Snow

HeLiS
10-11-2001, 11:46 PM
fair enough :)


Originally posted by snow:
<STRONG>helis that was eons ago when we all ran international lines.. Today it's law that we uses 900.. I mean i have seen a max of 4.99

Hes charging 3 more bucks why?? He runs the platform.. He can afford to pay like 4 bucks a minute to the webmasters at that rate...

He's a complete Moron.....</STRONG>