Could someone look at this site and give me an opinion?

[mortanius]

When i check my refferer log in my tsp script this site sends the majority of its hits from Unknown-pornography4all

Now what does that mean? I also notice that when this guy sends hits, my out percentage goes way down... help guys?

[mortanius]

http://www.pornography4all.com is the url btw

[Anthony]

Morty,

Yer best bet with any trade, is to lower the percentage down and see how it reacts. If your outclicks goes up, you have your answer.

Also, ask that webmaster as well.

Or, you can go for broke, buy Rimmer's New UCJ-C that does productivity tracking and be able to tell who is cheating.

Re's



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Anthony
anthony@freesmutpics.com
<Hit me up for real clean trades, ICQ 21239908>

[reyes]

Hi,im the webmaster of pornography4all.com . First of all, im not unknown. I'm getting over 80k a day so i'm able to send lots of hits to my partners. I don't know what makes you think that your pourcentage goes way down when I send you hits, but from what I remember we had an average trade. I would appreciate if you would ask me first before posting such a message because i'm an honest guy and I do everythging possible to make sure my trades are fair. I don't open you in a console and you got hits from people clicking on my links. What made you think I cheated you??? you didnt even post any proof!!! Did you check you counter stats at least? did you check if I had sent the hits? does not sound like you did...
Mathieu

[Due]

Hi
I'm also trading with pornography4all. And I'm very happy for the trade. We have a pretty fair trade and he sends very productive traffic. So check your trades before you start accusing people for cheating. That can ruin even the biggest site :-/


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[bpn]

And you copied the gif I made in PSP.
You could at least make just a tiny little change to it. You didnīt even rename it.

[donger]

yeah, i think this shit is getting fairly out of hand. It seems like anytime anybody notices anything slightly askew, they start hollering "CHEATER" before they even take time to figure it out. Why don't we just have some kind of cheater list that people can contribute to that's maintained by some of the moderators on this board? that way somebody like nick could receive emails and just post a list of cheating domains here for all of us to look at? that would save people's names getting needlessly dragged through the mud like this, plus it would be a pretty handy resource. You could maybe even have 2 lists, one for people with stuff that kind of sucks, like fullscreen consoles, opens outscript in exit console, etc; something like a 'warning' list, in addition to a list of actual cheaters.

my 2 cents http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
donger

[mortanius]

okay guys, first of all i never called this guy a cheater at all, i was simply asking for an opinion. I'm not about starting drama or problems with anyone. Sorry if im just gonnnna get flamed for asking simple questions, im not gonna even bother contributing to your boards.

[Dje]

Hi Mortanius,
don't take these replies the wrong way. This board is something great and the more people come here and post, the greater it gets. The replies were just to remind you that this particular board is for reporting cheaters, so by posting here a web site, you are assuming that he is a cheater. Even if it is not what you wanted to mean, there will be people reading this board and deleting every "suspected" webmaster without even looking if he really is cheating anyone. People get mean because it is not the first time this kind of things happen, and each time we remind people to contact the webmaster of the other web site before posting here.

I hope you understand that all we got in this business is a name, and that it is really easy to destroy one's reputation.

So this is for anyone: if you ever have any quaestions about a trade, the way your script works, your referer logs work, or anything else. first contact the webmaster implied. If you can't get to him, feel free to contact me, NickD, or any other moderator of this board. We will walk through the problem with you, and if we really face a cheater, we will be happy to post his name here to help other webmasters out.

I think that should end this thread http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

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DJE
jmalouin@videotron.ca
#15576399

[Dan]

Hi,

lemme introduce myself, I'm Dan and I'm working with Mathieu on pornography4all and I'm also developping with him the script that we are currently using.

I'm reading this message board for some time now and I realize that it's really easy to start rumors. I agree with NickD and other webmasters with the fact that we should talk to each other when we have a problem with someone, instead of publically exposing everything that seems suspicious. I think this board should be used only to denounce confirmed cheaters.

Now, for the allegations of mortanius, please consider the following fact:

We were trading 300 hits/day with his site, which makes me think that if your out percentage goes way down when trading 300 hits with a site (even if he's cheating, which we obviously didn't do), you have a problem.

Now, since our site is relativly new (running for a month) and that we are receiving a great amount of traffic (near 100k as of today), I understand that some of you may think it's anormal. But, as Mathieu said, we are honest webmasters that try to do our best to get a profitable business. We may got where we are now by trading uniques instead raws like the majority do, but I'm not here to sell our script http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anyway, it's clear that anyone trying to cheat in the CJ industry will see his site die in the next days, so who would be stupid enough to try it? Not us.

Finally, at the opposite of mortanius, I'll try to contribute more often to this board.

[arjay2]

well, I trade lots of traffic with porn4all. I know they have very good productive traffic that actually gives me more outclicks than many other sites.

My script told he so. you can cheat on the in clicks, but you can't cheat the productivity tracking

[Juggler]

Mortanius the only thing you did wrong was put a sites name the question who ever is a good one if you see unknown for a site a lot I would suggest you check it out I have found over 10 sites that where IMHO cheating by open trades on exit.

However it does NOT mean a site is cheating because there is a lot of hits from unknown one of the biggest senders of unknown URL is one of my other site and trust me I checked it out and I am happy to say I do not cheat my self.

This is how I see the referrer stats being useful if someone opens trades on exit they will have a lot of unknown URL and it makes it easier to find them but just because someone has a lot of Unknown it does NOT mean they are cheating

Mortanius do not take the post personal they are not aimed just at you but at all of us there has been a lot of FALSE accusations made and we ALL have to be careful if you suspect someone of cheating get someone else to look as well this board should be the last result not the first call sure ask question but if you put a site/traders name here make sure they are cheats

Happy trading

[mb]

Well, well, well. Not only does this lolitatop guy not understand how to keep things private between him and the accused webmaster, he goes and completely rips off my site, http://www.hoes.com/

How hard is it to put together a simple web page with a few pics? Ok, maybe you don't know html, that's ok, alot of people don't, but you even went as far as to steal my pics.

You MUST immediately remove those pics from your site (the top row of pics) or I will see to it that every script site webmaster that I talk to removes you from their database. Trust me, it wouldn't take long to convince them to do it.

I figure it would be cool to just talk between the two of us about this, but since this is blatant stealing and you should be punished for your actions, I am letting everyone know.

Good luck to you and your (my) site.

[mortanius]

Sure thing mb.