http://www.hourly-pics.com/ opening 2 trades on exit

[Juggler]

http://www.hourly-pics.com/ is open 2 trades plus 2 redirect scripts on exit I refreshed a few times and this site is trading with a lot of big trades just had to laugh when I read the webmaster page:

Are there any rules?
Yes. DON'T CHEAT! Anyone found sending traffic via SRC tags or zero frames or [ hit bot ] or IFrame or mini consoles will be removed and blacklisted ! We know almost every serious webmaster on the net so everybody will know you're cheater and you will finish your business very soon.

Good to see that the owner hates cheats well when they are cheat there site anyway ((-:

Happy trading

[Juggler]

Just thought I would add that the page source has been saved

[Anth0ny]

GOD DAMMIT!

Why won't ppl learn not to fucking cheat?!

Juggler, you are always on top of the problems.

[chimp]

OK, not that I think that this is an alright thing to do...but I have to say that hourly-pics is one of the most productive trades I have. I have more people clicking something on my two sites that come from there than most (95%) of my other trades. In this case opening links in not as harmful as I would have imagined it to be.
This isn't a smart thing to do though (even if for no other reason that someone will jump on your ass about it). In this case it just seems to have worked out in my favor (and another other person I talked to). He IS opening three trades at once though and I'd be interested to hear from other people who have a productivity check in their script to see what their traffic from hourly-pics looks like.

[Frankie]

Hello.
I'm webmaster of hourly-pics.com

I would like to explain the situation:
I open 2 trades, because I can - I don't cheat and person who pays me for exit popups allowed to show 2 consoles.
So - Mr.Juggler - First check your informations and then call people chaters. I'm not chating. If anyone thinks I do - I'll give him my contract copy where's written how many click-trade-consoles can I open.

And now second thing - script consoles:
Yesterday (5.01.2000) my traffic fall down rapidly. I did not know what is happening, if anybody cheats me or sth. So I added exit script consoles to check out if it will help or not. If it will - my page is pure and people do not click. If not - somebody cheats me.
After 5 hours (yes - only 5 hours).
If you don't belive me - I can contact you with my ISP and he will tell you about upload logs on my server - I have nothing to hide.
I removed this 2 popups and you know what? It did not help, so somebody probably cheated me -guess who. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif) I don't what to say it loudly, because I'm not the person like Mr.Juggler who shout loudly before checking what is what....

I'm sorry if anybody lost anything, beause of my 5-hours consoles. I hope our trades will be as good as they are now.

If you have any questions or comments, please let me know - I'll gladly explain.

Best Regards
Frankie
webmaster@hourly-pics.com
ICQ#30513772

[Dan S]

What are you talking about?
Nobody was complaining about you poping up 2 sponsors.
But you opened 3 trades on exit, and I didnt allow you that, or show me the written contract.

You know what? Opening 3 trades on exit resulted in almost 20 consoles poping up with entrance and exit consoles on your trading partners. I wondered that my browser didnt crash.

I have seen your code and it didnt look like the 3 trade popups have been there by fault.

Sorry man, I completely agree to Juggler.

I did contact you also on ICQ, that I stoped our trades because of that. And if you remove that code we can get a new trade going.

The code simply sucked, opening trades on exit are NOT standard agreements. So you cant do it with your out.cgi

And since it have been 3 its really very close to cheating.

Dan

[Frankie]

As I said I removed it after 5 hours.
Read my posting and you'll know why I made popups. I'm not cheating.

[hp]

Popping up trades is always cheating, or is it first after 5½ hour its considered cheating ?? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

anyways Frankie, I love your traffic, so please dont cheat http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Frankie]

I don't, and I ever won't...

[Juggler]

Frankie yes I shouted loud and I will shout as loud as I can every time I see someone opening thier trades on exit. I do not know how long you have been doing this but this but if you where doing this a few months ago you would have been around when a lot of webmasters lost there site because of people doing things like opening trades on exit. I do not know you and I do not have anything against you personally but I will shout loud every time I see someone opening on exit Img Scr'ing or anything else that is consider cheating.

If you are being cheated you should know how much damage it can do your site but the answer is not to cheat other sites but to find the cheat and stop them if we all deciede to cheat because we where being cheated it would be a right mess

As I say I do not know and this is not personal I have spoken to a few people who are trading with you and they have all said the same thing your trade is one of thier better trades but open trades on exit (unless arranged with the sites first) can not be exceptable I know your view of me is a loud mouth but I will do the same every time that is just the way I am

Happy trading

[WEJERKUHARD]

I agree! i trade with this guy and it looks
as he is IMG srcing ?? but i cant find the code.. so i go to his site and get 10 pop
ups on entrance , that was enough..

Just my 1/2 CENT....