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Doctor Dre
05-22-2001, 08:16 PM
Hi ! I will help you newbees and maybe some advanced people to trade better ... And explain why its better to do that http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Aiight first tons of webmasters are saying : Get 10 good trades running ... Big ones . Don't keep the others they don't worth it .
This is totally false !!! On your site, the small trades stay small cauz the prod of their site is bad on your site . But on the other site, they may give your site a better productivity... For sure don't keep a mature trade if you are a teen tgp ... But Use of your common sense . Keep all the ones that are acceptables ! The unique ratio will get better with more trades too . Due's site do that and he's pretty big ... I do that too and I'm in the sextracker Top 50 . So if you say you will loose traffic doing that, think twice http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

About forcing to trades :
A lot of webmasters force to 4-5 trades in one time ... Just make them bigger one by one . If youre enough big to be in the top 15 trades of the other webmaster, contact him and ask him to force hits too ... U wil get big and good trades running fast . I usually work on 1-3 trades per day http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I have no ideas of what ever I can say ... But I think that could help some of you http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Post your trading tips here too ...

Doctor Dre
05-22-2001, 10:41 PM
Ok... I was asked for more info by somes of my friends . I will make a resume and post it on the new Cyclejerk when its gonna open http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I will start with the script and trading :

Ok for UCJ, right now its raw ... Theres not to much to do with setting ... It runs the trade itself . I work with 10 sites on my outdoing list and I set some big trades like JJJ on ratio . So no matter whats their prod look on my site, I return well . Thats good for other kind of traffic that don't click a lot but buy more http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I will let you know with the new UCJ 4.1 how it will work the best for me . Its comming up in few weeks but please don't send messages to Tim for this he will not have the time to finish it on time ... he will post on the board when it will be the time for everybody to know about this script ... Oh and the new feature is : Unique out !!! WAHOOOOOOO

For R&B 2 : I had the chance many times to work with this script . Right now UCJ is way better ... But wait for the next version (R&B 4 cauz the 3 were never finished) . So the best setup for me is :

Return at 120 and + 80 for prod

For the setting, it depends with wich script youre trading :
R&B --- UCJ = Raw - Uniques
You send out uniques so you get a good productivity on the other site . And you count all the in the other site send you . Thats the only advantage R&B 2 have on UCJ right now and ucj 4.1 will have the unique out feature too !

R&B --- R&B = Uniques - Uniques
The script is the best to trade with other sites ...

For the other scripts, you ask the webmaster if he trades in raw or uniques . I think cjultra and Cj pro are trading uniques but I'm not sure ....


Now about forcing hits :
Never force more than 10 % of your site size ... A trade should never be bigger than 10 % of your site except if you have tons of bookmarks and you don't have to worry about the site prod .

On ucj :
to start a trade, I usually set from 20 to 200 an hour to start the site depending of the other site's size I trade with ...

On R&B 2 : Start forcing 50 ... If you know you can trade big with the other tgp, force 500

For CJ Pro . I used it once . I'm used to force 500 on the start to the other site but I never found the way to get big with this script tough

I will post more infos later http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

The Badgurl
05-22-2001, 11:24 PM
This is a gold mine! Wow! thanks very much Dr. Dre!

nic
05-22-2001, 11:30 PM
Dre, you are the man! Others should follow in your footsteps, thanks for the advise!

Doctor Dre
05-22-2001, 11:30 PM
Some other things :
When u force, don't do it too fast with UCJ and especially R&B 2 ... If you force 500 in 2 mins, Ucj will freak the next cronjob and sometimes it returns nothing . That happened to me sometimes :P

Oh and all the info here was with sites that have content on it

xApster
05-22-2001, 11:35 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Doctor Dre:
Now about forcing hits :
Never force more than 10 % of your site size ...
</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Doctor Dre:
On ucj :
to start a trade, I usually set from 20 to 200 an hour to start the site depending of the other site's size I trade with ... </font>

If you set someone on 200 then u send 20% :P

God i am board... but good post...

If I was not so lazy maybe i would add a few tips as well =)

Doctor Dre
05-22-2001, 11:37 PM
I've just seen the lane's script admin ... This script will kick UCJ stats soon ! fuck its too good . The only handicap it haves : Its wrote in php ... webmasters are looking for C . In fact, php is as fast as C but webmasters look for C =p

ok another tip is to use the events on UCJ with X3's sites ... Each morning, I force a lot the first 15 mins to Mr.Zilla ... the rest of the day, my trade drop slowly and go down ... But that keep our trade up .

Doctor Dre
05-22-2001, 11:38 PM
lol xapster I don't need to force 10 % to get trades working .. only 1-2 % max .

but when u start, you need to pull more on new trades .

Lane
05-22-2001, 11:40 PM
hi,
Since Dre didnt exactly know the features of my scripts he wanted me to post a reply here http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

first of all i have a free version called cjultra-free available at www.cjultra.com (http://www.cjultra.com) . if you cant install it, i will do it for you.
the features are:
it sends out uniques,
counts raw and unique hits,
productivity tracking,
shows all referrers in a graphical stats page,
hourly force option,
blacklist option,
link tracking,
trades mainly based on productivity,
it doesnt waste your hits, it keeps sending your extra hits to your trades. (so if you are sending more than the ratio dont get surprised).
written with PHP and uses mysql, a fast combination.


now here is the paid script:

sends out uniques,
counts raw/unique hits
hourly force option,
fast force option,
timed force option,
main page rotation,
link tracking,
perm links,
grouping links by categories to send targeted traffic,
toplist,
trades based on last 24 hour hits, the stats dont reset,
you can go back up to 7 days and see the stats for each single hour for each single trade,
auto ratio/flat ratio option so you trade based on prouctivity or based on raw hits,
incoming/outgoing ip stats and the links clicked by each ip address,
auto deactivation of unproductive or dead trades,
skimming: send a % of clicks to a gallery and the rest to trades,

written in PHP4 and uses Mysql Database, but very soon the script engine will be translated to C to improve speed.

$500 first copy, $300 each afterwards


You can contact me at icq 6757061, I provide full tech support for both scripts

cheers,
Lane

xApster
05-22-2001, 11:42 PM
I just cant wait for UCJ 4.01 .. its goign to be to sweet! I can't wait to send unqiues then the # u force wont matter =)

dreewwwwwwwwlll...

Doctor Dre
05-23-2001, 12:21 AM
I've seen the admin of Lane's script working ... And it's still going to kick Ucj's ass very soon if he continue to improve it like that

Doctor Dre
05-23-2001, 12:25 AM
Others tips :
Multi main page
This feature is not bad ... But if we could customize it a little that would be better ... I presonally tried . It can brings up your productivity or bring it down . If youre an expert at layout and you know how to build productive ones, go for it . But I've lost some hits using it ... cauz u don't know wich layout get the best prod etc.

That could be a feature to add in a new script .
And the possiblity like on Scorpion to change pages for each trade would be great too ...

Filipe
05-23-2001, 10:44 AM
You forgot to talk about the best script in the market right now: Blindio

When I used cjpro I usually forced about 50% of the size of the trade. I think it's the best way.

xApster
05-23-2001, 11:02 AM
Blindio was good but now its kind of outdated... when blindio 3 comes out tho I am sure it will kick some ass.

Swat
05-23-2001, 11:11 AM
Hey im just a little surfer who wants free porn , it sooooooooo cool to see all the mind jobs here to hit me like a tennis ball from one site to another !
LOL

Filipe
05-23-2001, 12:44 PM
Blindio is a little old, but it's still the best one, no doubt about that.

Can't wait for Blindio 3 though http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

xApster
05-23-2001, 01:05 PM
Depends on the kind of site.. i think for a pure script site ucj is the best and for perm link site blindio is better http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Hypo
05-23-2001, 01:10 PM
I give Blind IO a thumbs up too! And now its cheaper than UCJ.

My question - what do you do with trades with very low productivity? I have trades that send 200 a day of 130% productiviy and others sending 2K a day of 80% productivity and one sending a huge amount of traffic of 50% productivity. My script will handle it and adjust the returns, but I hear some people simply delete low productivity trades. Is that being silly or wise?

Cam
05-23-2001, 02:20 PM
Wow! great info Dr Dre,

I have a question on the outgoing settings in UCJ, have you tweaked them, or just left them with the default settings?

xxxpit
05-23-2001, 03:26 PM
can someone please elaborate more
about Lanes frees script..

what % does he take etc..
i trd getting a hold of him..
hes offline .

greatly appreciated
from a webmaster on a budget ...

Doctor Dre
05-23-2001, 03:40 PM
Filipe what are your experiences with blindio ? I tried it once but never got good results. I don't really like the admin page and all ... I personally preffer UCJ by far . S2 is not bad too ... but Ucj the best http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Cam:
Wow! great info Dr Dre,

I have a question on the outgoing settings in UCJ, have you tweaked them, or just left them with the default settings?</font>

I just let them default ...


xxxpit : The free script take 1 % of traffic .

xxxpit
05-23-2001, 03:45 PM
Dr Dre ..
thanx ..
Tam was just telling me 1% when your post came up?

Looks good..
Now just nee to get ahold of Lane..
Guess hes quite busy..

ICQ 115944211
please contact me Lane ..

Filipe
05-23-2001, 05:01 PM
Dr Dre, I can't remember of any good feature available on other scripts that Blindio doesn't have. And in my opinion, it does it better.

I don't think the admin layout is very important since you will always get used to it after some time. When I saw UCJ for the first time I hated the admin page, and now I like it.

I don't know what type of experiences with Blindio you are asking me, but today I opened a new site with that script, forced only a few hits to feed the first trades and I'm on 12k now, so I can't complain http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

And about the suport, I don't have much experince with Tim's suport. I supose he gives good suport. But I never saw anything like Dan and rEyes. They are amazing.

Filipe

Doctor Dre
05-23-2001, 05:03 PM
http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif I hated UCJ the first time I saw it ... It took me 3 hours to see what was the difference between outdoing and members !!! lol

QuietMike
05-23-2001, 06:01 PM
Dre, this is a great post and I think you are really helping a lot of us out. Just wanted to say thanx before my question.

Question: On UCJ, what do you set your min trade to on your trades (the ones you are not forcing to)?

Doctor Dre
05-23-2001, 08:58 PM
Some trades don't need to be forced a lot ... Some trades do . You just need to see ... Sometimes a trade is running at 500 an hour . Then boom . 0 an hour . I just set it to 50 at least for big trades to make sure some hits are trading http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif