View Full Version : Hiendmedia 2 times DOWN in 24h
Sexyland
10-30-2001, 11:54 AM
Hi i got question to all what can i do if a sever is going 2 times down in 24h and killing all my trades i had?
I really worked hard for this traffic and lost all in 24h.
Sexyland
when comes to hardware you get what you pay for. Can't cheat this rule
Captain
10-30-2001, 12:16 PM
Hardware is very important part of good hosting company. I suggest going with a dell PoewerEdge servers. Their hardware and same day warranty is second to none.
Sexyland
10-30-2001, 12:17 PM
I thought every time they have very good hardware????
there's no such thing as "same day warranty", no matter what they say
good hosting company should keep spare parts for everything
Much0S
10-30-2001, 12:28 PM
Actually Dell does offer a 2 hour replacement guarantuee. But i doubt anyone here would be willing to pay that fee. That's why i've thought of some handy dandy stuff for my own servers...
dell is expensive like hell
$tandaman
10-30-2001, 12:48 PM
gse, every1 who uses dell knows they get what they pay for, surely some companies and sometimes webmasters themselves select non-dell servers, but they get to suffer in the end.
Much0S
10-30-2001, 12:51 PM
Originally posted by $tandaman:
<STRONG>gse, every1 who uses dell knows they get what they pay for, surely some companies and sometimes webmasters themselves select non-dell servers, but they get to suffer in the end.</STRONG>
Actually I like to build my servers myself, instead of buying out of the box servers like Compaq or Dell, because frankly, I know how they are built ;)
Dells are fine if you dont know much about hardware though.
Dells are especially good if you want to use Windows NT...
true, you buy dell or compaq if you know nothing about hardware - this way you are covered by good warranty.
I build my servers and desktops myself also now, I guess it's just a matter of choice isn't it?
Much0S,
I thought NT was a thing of the past :D
Much0S
10-30-2001, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>Much0S,
I thought NT was a thing of the past :D</STRONG>
Well there are some ppl that still use it... not my choice, but hey if a customer wants it, what's a guy to do :)
Originally posted by Much0S:
<STRONG>
Well there are some ppl that still use it... not my choice, but hey if a customer wants it, what's a guy to do :)</STRONG>
suggest him win2k advanced server
justsexxx
10-30-2001, 01:14 PM
too bad, have my server there too. I'm sure they will fix it....
Is http://www.justsexxx.com working for you?
Andre
Much0S
10-30-2001, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>
suggest him win2k advanced server</STRONG>
win2k = winnt!
Yep, justsexxx.com is working.
Originally posted by Much0S:
<STRONG>
win2k = winnt!</STRONG>
a bit better than NT
Much0S
10-30-2001, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>
a bit better than NT</STRONG>
nope win2k = winnt 5.0 same kernel as 4.0. less bugs than 4.0 :)
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>when comes to hardware you get what you pay for. Can't cheat this rule</STRONG>
Excactly. But build your own server instead of buying something from Dell or Scumpaq etc. You can get a far more powerfull server that way for the ½ price :) And you don't need to use ½ hour to scratch of that annoying Dell sticker :D
deniska
10-30-2001, 02:13 PM
Dell is the best equipment money can buy. Anyone who has ever dealt with dell equipment on this forum knows that. All of us where skeptics at one point also ;)
Originally posted by deniska:
<STRONG>Dell is the best equipment money can buy. Anyone who has ever dealt with dell equipment on this forum knows that. All of us where skeptics at one point also ;)</STRONG>
dell builds computers, servers, etc
they don't make cpu, raid controllers, memory, etc
They build computers with parts built by others. You can build it yourself if you have any clue what you're doing, that's the point.
Much0S
10-30-2001, 03:12 PM
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>
dell builds computers, servers, etc
they don't make cpu, raid controllers, memory, etc
They build computers with parts built by others. You can build it yourself if you have any clue what you're doing, that's the point.</STRONG>
exactly.
Plus as I said I know how dell assembles stuff so I rather do it myself :) In the end the only one i can trust is, well, .. me :)
the only advantage of having dell (or whatever) build your server over building this yorself is you get faster warranty.
Say P4 processor is the same if you buy it from dell or tigerdirect. But if you buy it from dell and it goes down - they will replace it fast cause they have all shit in stocks whilst others may fuck around forever.
Of course if you wish to pay their 'premium' price
Sexyland
10-30-2001, 04:51 PM
Now its third time offline and killed now the rest of my traffic
Much0S
10-30-2001, 05:23 PM
Originally posted by gse:
<STRONG>the only advantage of having dell (or whatever) build your server over building this yorself is you get faster warranty.
Say P4 processor is the same if you buy it from dell or tigerdirect. But if you buy it from dell and it goes down - they will replace it fast cause they have all shit in stocks whilst others may fuck around forever.
Of course if you wish to pay their 'premium' price</STRONG>
that's why i've plenty on stock :) and some other stuff, but hey that's secret :)
shane94
10-30-2001, 09:24 PM
When did thier service go down? I do not show any dips in traffic for the lst 24hrs. Can someone fill me in here =) I have been with these guys for quite some time now and have had little or no problems with them as far as downtime.
Shane
$tandaman
10-30-2001, 09:30 PM
gse, why dell is the best? because they spend millions of dollars in R & D, and you just CANNOT DO IT
thats why those servers perform how they are supposed to.
saying that you dont know shit about hardware is BS.
i thought the same way you do before i actually DEALT with dell, and looked at how their servers are built, did you ever see one personally? did you ever test it?
Like Whoa Hosting is powered by Dell! and those are the only servers we recommend!
HeLiS
10-30-2001, 10:38 PM
dells are good but our partner company has been making servers for over 5 years and has been supplying machines to places like HP and Compaq for years and i know one of our machines will beat any deal
our machines are built with the best hardware with out all the advertising costs built into the price like compaqs and dell's
i still cant see why an decent host doesnt make there own machines hell we even custome build our o/s none of that out of the box crap then again our team is made up of the best geeks in the world we have all been playing with unix and linux since we were ten so using something like dell is just against the geek laws lol
anyway peace out
Dot Banner
10-30-2001, 11:25 PM
gse,
I think you are hearing it from the big hosting companies and I believe they do know what they are talking about it.
It does not really matter who builds hard drivers, motherboards, etc... the whole point how it's built and how it's supported.
$tandaman
10-31-2001, 12:31 AM
gse, when you build them do you test how much power exactly does it take, take redundant power supplies, circuit boards, network cards, Raid cards, drives, ram.
there is a reason why every part is made by dell for a specific model, and yes different parts will work in it, but they are not as good, and will not perform as good.
Fact of the matter is, yes we can save money on our customers and charge them the same money for in-house made servers, but, it's the customers and US who will pay in the end when shit breaks, and you simply cannot find the reason why. And shit DOES break!
lets put it this way, if you had to pick for server to be hosted would you pick a certified DELL box, which was designed and tested in multi million dollar labs, by genious techs or would you take one made by your hosting provider's intern who gets paid 7$/hr and is not responsible for shit.
ProgGod
10-31-2001, 02:58 AM
Its not the hardware we did quite a few major upgrades today.. Routers, switches, new liens coming in etc.. There were small moments of downtime..
We will make an offical announcement about it tommorow.. but the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of new equipment was put in place to assure us of ZERO downtime int he future.
Originally posted by $tandaman:
<STRONG>gse, when you build them do you test how much power exactly does it take, take redundant power supplies, circuit boards, network cards, Raid cards, drives, ram.
there is a reason why every part is made by dell for a specific model, and yes different parts will work in it, but they are not as good, and will not perform as good.
Fact of the matter is, yes we can save money on our customers and charge them the same money for in-house made servers, but, it's the customers and US who will pay in the end when shit breaks, and you simply cannot find the reason why. And shit DOES break!
lets put it this way, if you had to pick for server to be hosted would you pick a certified DELL box, which was designed and tested in multi million dollar labs, by genious techs or would you take one made by your hosting provider's intern who gets paid 7$/hr and is not responsible for shit.</STRONG>
yes, shit does break. Damn true, and lot of people unfortunately don't get it.
basically when you build the box from scratch you need to know your suppliers. It's not that hard to assemble the box if you know the right combination. And it takes time and experience. It takes sometimes countless tries to figure out why some shit is not doing what is supposed to be doing. And I have no doubt that Dell has done that and knows what they assemble, that's why they are reliable. They spent millions for shit in stock and that's why they warranty kicks ass.
But if you think that Dell can get me better server than I can build myself using my hands and my own experience - think again.
when you assemble custom machine - it's not that you save, you save - but it's not the goal. Custom machine is to get you more horsepower.
For instance I wanted fast backup drive. I could go with cheap onstream, but I chose seagate DAT for $1,2k. I didn't save money but I got 80 mbps backup speed on the box.
I don't think Dell would bother with you if you want that much 'customization'
For webhosting companies - they need to spend less money and to get more reliability. Dell is a great choice. For overcloker-paranoids like myself who want speed and horsepower - Dell is not the choice. That's all
Originally posted by Dot Banner:
<STRONG>gse,
I think you are hearing it from the big hosting companies and I believe they do know what they are talking about it.
It does not really matter who builds hard drivers, motherboards, etc... the whole point how it's built and how it's supported.</STRONG>
the reason we left big hosting companies back in 99 is cause they don't always care what you need. I build, host and support my servers myself. Cause I want repeat what MuchOS said at the end I can only trust - myself.
;)
Originally posted by Dot Banner:
<STRONG>gse,
I think you are hearing it from the big hosting companies and I believe they do know what they are talking about it.
It does not really matter who builds hard drivers, motherboards, etc... the whole point how it's built and how it's supported.</STRONG>
the reason we left big hosting companies back in 99 is cause they don't always care what you need. I build, host and support my servers myself. Cause I want repeat what MuchOS said at the end I can only trust - myself.
;)
Dot Banner
11-01-2001, 03:23 AM
ProgGod-
I really look forward to that annoucement. Looks like you over-expanded that in such short period of time, already bought brand new harddware.
Also, this new hardware you put in there, that is supposingly going to ensure you to have 'ZERO' downtime is very interesting
Originally posted by ProgGod:
<STRONG>Its not the hardware we did quite a few major upgrades today.. Routers, switches, new liens coming in etc.. There were small moments of downtime..
We will make an offical announcement about it tommorow.. but the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of new equipment was put in place to assure us of ZERO downtime int he future.</STRONG>
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