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ZnoZ
06-03-2001, 04:13 PM
Hi again people!
Im about to buy a dedicated hosting package:
Pentium 3 650
256MB RAM
20GB ATA-100 HD

about 125GB of transfer included ( 0.5mb/s cap ) :
$199.95 setup
$379.95 + $20.00 = $399.95 monthly
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Anyone have any experience with these guys ?, they seem ok, the support guy is nice, answers e-mails quick, if no one have anything bad to say about them iŽll go for it, but i tought a post couldŽnt hurt.. so please, anyone who have had any good or bad experiences with them, please reply :)

Best Regards,
ZnoZ

Due
06-03-2001, 04:24 PM
I would never recommend using a server that is not using SCSI HD

Energy Hosting
06-03-2001, 04:29 PM
Due, I would like to point you to some interesting reading.
http://energyhosting.com/ide.html

ZnoZ, 321host-it is a good host, but having a capped line can give you problems.

sandman
06-03-2001, 04:43 PM
Nothing wrong with a capped line but you will never pull 125 gigs from .5 capped if you did your site would be slow as hell.

Your more likely to pull 100 gigs tops depending on what kind of sites you have.

Duke
06-03-2001, 04:45 PM
they are good
and I think that they are working on a not capped version

Due
06-03-2001, 04:51 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Energy Hosting:
Due, I would like to point you to some interesting reading.
http://energyhosting.com/ide.html

ZnoZ, 321host-it is a good host, but having a capped line can give you problems.</font>

Yes but the main difference between SCSI and IDE is that SCSI uses its own CPU power while IDE uses the main CPU. That can be a lot of extra work for the CPU.
The server he was talking about was not with RAID neither. You can also get SCSI raid http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif
I think it is stupid trying to save a few bucks comprising on the CPU load since that is often a critical point with webservers.
That's just my 2 cents... could be wrong though http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Due
06-03-2001, 04:53 PM
comprising = compromising.
damn keyboard http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Iceman
06-03-2001, 04:55 PM
Hi
I would prefer Dynamic Hosting, they have great Servers and are very cheap, u should check them out.
They also have a great support.
http://www.dynamichosting.com/

Iceman

basschick
06-03-2001, 04:56 PM
$399.95 monthly may sound like a deal, but you will be paying $3.99 a gig, which is NOT a deal at all!!!!

Coke
06-03-2001, 05:08 PM
$3.99 per GB?

You need to remember that the server costs are included there. Additional 0.5mb/s is available at $225 per month so I think that's the price you should look at.

Anyway, Znoz, if you would like to add me ( Gernot from 321host-it ) to your ICQ list, feel free to do so please http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif 17021242

Due, there are different servers for different needs and budgets. An IDE server won't run you into that many troubles as long as you don't try to pull 5mb/s with it http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks,
Gernot

Due
06-03-2001, 05:52 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Coke:
An IDE server won't run you into that many troubles as long as you don't try to pull 5mb/s with it http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Thanks,
Gernot</font>

Why do all webhosts say this server can handle 3 mb/s, 8 mb/s 10mb/s or whatever.
Isn't it more the amount of hits the server get than the actual transfers?

Much0S
06-03-2001, 05:55 PM
Yes it is (Due).

I personally think it's foolish to put IDE discs (especially 7200 RPM (heat problems)) in servers, way better to pay a little extra and go for SCSI.

Why? IDE are targetted for HOME computing -&gt; thus are not build for high stress working.

SCSI's are build from day one for servers (in the old days for bbs's) and they are build to last (and also be fast ofcourse).

Coke
06-03-2001, 06:10 PM
Due, these numbers are related closely to each other and the bandwidth usage is easier to imagine, in my opinion.

But in fact, it's pretty much the same whether you say x mb/s or y hits as x will logically increase if y increases http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Coke
06-03-2001, 06:14 PM
Muchos, you're right, IDE HDs used to be only for home computing but the world has moved on and now they're a very good alternative to SCSI for entry-level servers.

Due
06-03-2001, 06:17 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Coke:
Due, these numbers are related closely to each other and the bandwidth usage is easier to imagine, in my opinion.

But in fact, it's pretty much the same whether you say x mb/s or y hits as x will logically increase if y increases http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif</font>

Hmmm not always.
Also depend on what you have. IE. Big pictures, small pictures, scripts, html pages etc. is the scripts in Perl, C, php etc.

Coke
06-03-2001, 06:21 PM
Yes, but you need to set a limit somewhere... Saying a server will hanlde 12 accesses to a 5k perl script and 50 to a 20k C script while handling 128 27.5k images is a little too complicated, I assume http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Much0S
06-03-2001, 06:22 PM
Problem of IDE is, next to heat problems, unstability of the hardware also that the unix/linux drivers for the new 7200 RPMS are new and as with all new open source stuff, you can't trust it unless it's been there for at least a year (certainly hardware shit). Another problem with IDE that is a logical consequence of it using CPU cycles is that it globbers up Interrupts and DMA's.

Much0S
06-03-2001, 06:23 PM
Coke: yes for entry level servers it's not bad (on the other hand: what other options are there besides IDE and SCSI http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif) i'm just trying to say that IMHO I'd never ever use IDE in servers http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif (although I know of some companies even putting them in virtual servers and actually claiming they're better than SCSI...)

ZnoZ
06-03-2001, 06:30 PM
Thanks alot for all your replys, i will now put every thing into serious consideration :)

Thanks Again.
Best Regards,
ZnoZ

Coke
06-03-2001, 06:34 PM
Muchos, the hardware is pretty much the same. The only difference that matters is that SCSI drives have a different controller than IDE drives. The hard disks themselves are the same, so you'll have the same heat (problems) with SCSI and IDE drives.

Much0S
06-03-2001, 06:57 PM
I don't believe you Coke http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif 100's of died IDE discs proof my point http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

My point: SCSI is better than IDE (more stable, more speed, more reliable) plain and simple.

Your point: IDE is good for entry level. Yes it is cheaper than SCSI I guess

Coke
06-03-2001, 07:14 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">SCSI drives are developed first for the high performance market (servers and high end workstations). After the drive technology matures, they slap an IDE controller card onto it and start shipping high volume. That's why IDE/ATA drives are mostly 5400 and 7200 RPM when SCSI drives are mostly 10k and 15k RPM.</font>

That's from www.scsifaq.org (http://www.scsifaq.org) It's a good resource answering some questions http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

jefrbord20
06-03-2001, 07:22 PM
Hello Gernot, my technician http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I just wanted to say that i'm pretty happy with 321host-it.com, good service, cool guys.

totalpics
06-03-2001, 07:42 PM
I suggest 321host it. I use them as my host. I have a dedicated server with them which I have had for about 8 months now.

I own www.totalpics.net (http://www.totalpics.net)

I am very happy with the speed and support.

I suggest you use them.

Captain
06-04-2001, 03:20 PM
I would recomend going with a SCSI Hd, check out http://www.isprime.com to match any deals you've been offered with customer support 2nd to none http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

xero
06-04-2001, 08:24 PM
I have used 321host-it for a few months now, and they are great. Their tech-support is fast and nice, and their service is fast, and profesional.

I would recomend them over any other hosting comapny, I have looked into a lot!

-Xero

TwinTone
06-04-2001, 09:23 PM
Totalpics..

Nice copy job of http://v1.nedstatbasic.net/s?tab=1&link=1&id=433633&name=totalpics

Even linked them on your site!!

jefrbord20
06-08-2001, 01:44 PM
i'm so pissed.. since 4 days.. my server at 321host-it.com is down for at least 1 hour per day .. It really cut off my traffic.

Brando
06-08-2001, 09:09 PM
AHHHHHHHHH it is Energy Hosting the resellers from hell hahahaha losers

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Energy Hosting:
Due, I would like to point you to some interesting reading.
http://energyhosting.com/ide.html

ZnoZ, 321host-it is a good host, but having a capped line can give you problems.</font>

Brandon
06-08-2001, 09:12 PM
So far i've had a pretty good experience with 321host-it but sometimes they're a bit slow.