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T-bone
01-10-2001, 12:54 PM
I have been reading this board for awhile hanging low but have to let you in on something.

These dialers you read about are a great way to make extra money. But you have to look at the big picture.

One of the biggest scams is a guy putting togther a web page, getting 100 dialers from a company and then telling everyone they will pay 45 cents or higher Flat.
I just recently saw a company 75 cents Flat.

What happens is most will look at this and say, "yes this is for me" I want that more money. Everyone runs to this guy and after he gets a ton of mintues the guy runs.
Most of these companies that offer this rate clean house in a Big way.
Dont be fooled by this,

The most any company will average out is 38 Cents, That is why you see alot of 35 cents around. The phone companies in all the countries have a standard rate they can pay out. Every company is the same.

Stick with the guys who pay, Its not worth it to run off and think that you will make $100 more with this other clown offering you more minutes. YOu will waste another month of wasted traffic.

The only difference between the guys who run these programs is the Ethics of one over the other. If one guys is running a clean program, there are 10 that are just telling you to get there dialers and then see ya.


So Dont fall for this Scam. 35 cents is the best they will pay. Anything over this you will not see the money.

khavnus
01-10-2001, 01:05 PM
I am in Norge so I cannot use the neiuw dialers. But I had my frend ins USA test this new dialer that says pays 70 cents flat.

He ran the dialer and connect to nothing. No browser launced and opened in a porno member area. But the $7.99 connection stayed however, so it charged a user for looking at no member area. If you think $8 a minute is a scam to look at porno, how about $8 a minute to look at NOTHING. That is fucked up.

Test this dialer. It does not work but still charges. I found it at www.sexmansion.com (http://www.sexmansion.com)

T-bone
01-10-2001, 01:07 PM
YOu have to say Focused on the Dialer that Pays and works for you.

To many people dont stop, step back, and look.

They see the $$$$$ and not the reality.

I hate to see people fall to this crap, Good webmasters just trying to make a buck.

moose
01-10-2001, 01:11 PM
Ya, i heard through the grapevine ;-) that GIB was worried about some of there resellers who are paying a flat rate getting into payment trouble in the next couple months because the flat rate is really risky way to pay,and most of these guys have no bankroll to back it

any truth to this?

T-bone
01-10-2001, 01:19 PM
Any more than 38 cents, no they cannot pay.
They are not telling the truth on this.

Gib is not worried, but if a guy tells everyone 40cents flat, then they will get concerned.

Gib is not letting everyone resell. Only the ones they know are running a clean program.
They dont want to get burned like last time.

shane
01-10-2001, 01:56 PM
If these fuckers are charging some dumb fuck $8 a min to look at porn, they surly make $6min profit and pay just a pothetic 35c. We are getting screwed much more than the surfer!

T-bone
01-10-2001, 02:11 PM
Shane
Att&t takes $6 min,

Look at this way. YOu are making more money then you had before. 35 cents adds up quickly.

Surfers will pay anything for there porn.
This has been going on for a long time.

neocorp
01-10-2001, 05:10 PM
Personnally, i m a second broker for GIB and niteline. Usually, site paying about 35 cents, are the one that are 3 rd or 4th broker depending if they give for referring other webmasters.
Also, I just learnt that for next week GIB is setting its payout for the 12 biggest countries to between 45-70 cents/minute... yes that look like incredible, but that's realy, i m working very closely with the number one broker and he will sign that contract with GIB next week, and i will sign with him a contract too.
However, even if they pay between45 and 70 cents for 12 countries, other countries are not paid, cause phone companies in that countries only pay them 1 cent... What i advise to all webmasters, is to look careffully at the broker scale. If you are on someone that pay 34 cents or 35 cents and that they need days to send you your dialer it means they are 4 th broker etc...
Last word is about payment. Personnally , and i think that many brokers posting in the spam board here, i m NOT paying webmasters, the first broker pay them. All i do is getting a commission for each members i bring him. The thing is the more webmasters he has, the more money he can get from GIB. Actually, he has 1400 webmasters...

Hope it was interesting for you

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basschick
01-10-2001, 06:02 PM
t-bone - if gib says they can pay such large amounts - even 35 cents for all countries - then they have someone billing for them that is running another scam.

consider this: calls from the western u.s. to a madagascar termination point are charged 7.99 a minute. calls from china to that same termination point are charged 15 cents a min.

the same applies to any termination point... it is going to be almost local for some countries and premium for others. there is NO termination point that charges all countries a premium rate - there will always be countries closer.

the reason gib was able to pay out a flat rate before was that verity was billing illegally after sprint split - and billing through a company that was not a long distance carrier, so people really noticed it on their phone bill.

i would be interested to know who is doing gib's billing now.

snow
01-10-2001, 06:16 PM
T-bone that was a very good statement. There are scams going on like mad,you have to be really careful. I had alot of people send me a certain amout of minutes and then they shut down to see if i paid.Well i did pay and now the minutes are coming again.Thats a very smart thing to do.

Its like everythihg you have to test test test.Before i went back to gib i must have tested 14 dialers and i want happy till i was back with gib.

Most important thing is being payed and being around for these people.
Snow

neocorp
01-10-2001, 06:22 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by snow:
T-bone that was a very good statement. There are scams going on like mad,you have to be really careful. I had alot of people send me a certain amout of minutes and then they shut down to see if i paid.Well i did pay and now the minutes are coming again.Thats a very smart thing to do.

Its like everythihg you have to test test test.Before i went back to gib i must have tested 14 dialers and i want happy till i was back with gib.

Most important thing is being payed and being around for these people.
Snow</font>


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