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unconnected

07-31-2002, 06:04 PM

Yea, something is up..
I mean there is no way that they can't see something is wrong on their end with all of us having these horrible ratios..
The fact that they haven't issued a statement or sent out emails
kind of indicates that something is up, perhaps they just arne't making enough to payout 1.00 per email and need to do this.. who knows

Breaker

07-31-2002, 06:13 PM

Probably just oversaturnated, when it was new people pushed it like mad and now every regular pornsurfer has seen it.

I don't push it that much anymore just some so i can get past the $200 payout limit ;)

viper2K1

07-31-2002, 06:49 PM

hehe, oversaturNated" :)

I have a wooping 1:174 for this period, seems pretty good compared to other people.

I'll just keep them up until I reach my next payout, and at this rate it might take a while hehe

Undutchable

07-31-2002, 06:51 PM

Im currently at 1:9 :p

basschick

07-31-2002, 07:14 PM

i'm at 1:32... but i don't send a lotta hits that way.

maybe if you're not happy you can try cemags.com which is cybererotica's free ezines. they don't have as many niches, though - although i think the designs are pretty niche.

bigdog

07-31-2002, 08:42 PM

hawg said everything is fine but my stats tell a different story

Mikey

07-31-2002, 09:58 PM

I've seen a little drop off. I have gone from 1:15 to 1:19 the past two days. I don't understand how anyone can be 1:100+

AgentCash

07-31-2002, 10:01 PM

1:95 here. I link them at the end of a pop-up hell, so I'm not too surprised, but I do see wild fluctuations with all email programs. It depends on so many factors, it's bound to change day-to-day. Mail servers down, or slow, confirm emails going out in batches with some, there are a lot of reasons.

Jake01

07-31-2002, 11:06 PM

F.E.B SUCKS !!!:cussing:

:finger:

Mathew

08-01-2002, 12:42 AM

Jake01 - no, you're wrong. They're good, responsible company, paying on time - ask anybody around besides yourself :D

I bet you never used them anyways.. :rolleyes:

mr leno

08-01-2002, 01:14 AM

14267 13541 244 1:55 $244.00
this suck :o( anyone want me to sign up to cemag using there referral id. heres your chance to make some easy money :)

SexyJo

08-01-2002, 01:19 AM

my ratio with free ezine
is a consistant 1:85

mr leno

08-01-2002, 01:21 AM

Bollo

08-01-2002, 01:23 AM

Sometimes it is so odd. Sometimes 1:17 and 1:435. The avarege is about 1:42 on mine. But I am doing the ass ezine much better than teen or others. I got alot of teens traffic to my site but they join ass ezine more than teens.

kodek

08-01-2002, 01:25 AM

I was using FEB for three month.
Not bad at all, paid me on time, can't complain.
But their ratio was constantly flowing from 1:10 to 1:250

I've switched back to good old Wegcash
For the last month I'm at 1:23 and ratio is much more stable.
So I decided to stay for a while :)

So FEB is good.
But if you feel your ratio is higher then should be, I suggest to try Wegcash for a month.
Then compare and decide yourself =)
http://www.wegcash.com/?wm=kodek

oil

08-01-2002, 03:50 AM

I realized a big drop here too

but everyone has it so I wans´t wondering about that

evilc

08-01-2002, 05:19 AM

My ratio dropped a little bit to 1:44 now..

I started at 1:13 but taht was a long time agao and my volume was a lot smaller then!

Anyways.. FEb is comin up with some new programs..so lets see how they go!

:cool:

Mikey

08-01-2002, 09:54 AM

So far today, aug. 1, my stats read:
321 298 21 1:14 $21.00
for the first 9 hours of the day.

Looks fine to me.

BossHawg

08-01-2002, 10:48 AM

First off, as everyone knows you can always contact me on ICQ at 945580

We also have a full time support guy that can assist you and you can reach him at:
JerseyPuma - 161457085

He'll be there to help anyone having problems with ratios and how to better maximize sales.

The past couple of days have been down a little from the previous weeks in terms of overall signups but ratios have been steady throughout. Some people are having better ratios while some are having worse.. It's the law of averages. We did have problems for about 1 hour on the 22nd and 23rd to take care of MySql Problems but besides that everything seems to be running fine.

As I said, ICQ either one of us and BE SURE to list your Traffic Sources (CJ, 404, etc..) and the page you are sending traffic from and we'll be more then happy to help out.

Undutchable

08-01-2002, 10:51 AM

BossHawg,

What i'd like to know, and many other webmasters like me i think, is why you also spam the resellers? After i signed up with F.E.B. ive received quite some spam already. I understand you guys need to make cash, but u should make it on the surfers and not on the people you are doing business with (not by spamming them i mean).

So why?

BossHawg

08-01-2002, 10:57 AM

Funkmaster - Not sure what you are referring to here?? We have NEVER sent any spam promoting any other resellers. The only mailings we EVER send to our webmasters is FreeEzineBucks program news and when we release anything new like the POTD, New Sites, Free Content (coming soon), etc..

If you are getting spam claiming its from FreeEzineBucks webmaster list, I'd like to find out more about it.. Let me know..

Mikey

08-01-2002, 11:02 AM

i know i am curious to know what kind of traffic you guys that get ratios over 1:100 are sending it. is it 404? cj? what?

Undutchable

08-01-2002, 11:03 AM

Hi Hawg

I've seen an increase in spam after signing up with FEB, and i spoke to some other webmasters and they told me they were experiencing the same. I do use the mail adress for other sponsors (not many but still), so that might be it, but its still kind of vague to me... If you say you dont sell or use the mail addy's for anything else, ill take your word for it, but i cant think of any other place it could come from. Any other webmasters with the same experience or was my case just a coincidence?

Regards
Funkmaster

BossHawg

08-01-2002, 11:07 AM

Funkmaster - Thanks for the reply... I can be 100% positive it is not coming from our webmaster list... I know AdultPlex sells their list and sends out webmaster mailings for resellers, but this is something we do not do.

If your a surfer thats a different story :)

Jake01

08-01-2002, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by mr leno
14267 13541 244 1:55 $244.00
this suck :o( anyone want me to sign up to cemag using there referral id. heres your chance to make some easy money :)

did you use wegcash ?

can you signup under me ?

evilc

08-01-2002, 11:22 AM

Originally posted by Funkmaster

Any other webmasters with the same experience or was my case just a coincidence?

Regards
Funkmaster

Hey funk,

I prmote FEB and i don't get no spam from them. And if Boss says so, liek you i'd believe him.

I guess its someone else!

:cool:

stonedteens

08-01-2002, 12:03 PM

well im not gonna give up on freeezine yet..some days i get 2 signups then some days i get 20...my overall ratio last period 1:48 and its getting better since i just started paying $ for better traffic...dont bother with FEB if you get all your traffic from trades...cuz think about it...

first the visitor goes to search engine..then finds a link to a tgp..then clicks on a gallery and it goes to some tgp...then that tgp is the one your trading with..well by the time the visitor gets to your site they have seen the freeezine bucks ad about 10 times...whats so special about them signing up for yours?

try trading with sites that dont use freeezinebucks as a sponsor...try making your ad stick out to the visitors

well whatever.. good luck with whatever sponsor you pick

desipapa

08-01-2002, 12:11 PM

well i am stuck at some point never goes down never goes up but i am happy witht he current ratio

Nelis

08-01-2002, 01:34 PM

I'm using freeezines too, and the ratio is really poor to say the least..I'm also using Join4Free it's a free e-mail sponsor. Does a lot better then freeezine:

Average Income Per Click : 7.5¢ Average Signup Ratio : 1 in 14.7

I've got a small site but I can pay my hosting of of this and have some cash left over

Try for yourself, they've got alot of other great stuff too
http://www.Join4Free.com (http://www.wegcash.com/signup.html?wm=theneax)

mr leno

08-01-2002, 03:46 PM

guys wegcash suck i mean they used to be good i was one of the first to use them i used to have 1:3 ratios but now its like 1:20 and about half of that in deductions and they dont count as much hits as ezine do. maybe they are shaving now i dont know but their deductions will kill ya they spam like 3-7 emails daily.

stonedteens

08-01-2002, 04:39 PM

what about CE Mags? I hardly ever hear talk on this board about them...they seem like they could get good conversions..anyone here use them?

Jake01

08-02-2002, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Mathew
Jake01 - no, you're wrong. They're good, responsible company, paying on time - ask anybody around besides yourself :D

I bet you never used them anyways.. :rolleyes:

YOU ARE WRONG !!!

:rotflmao:

fishov

08-02-2002, 07:55 PM

It had been 6 days with no sign ups. Finally got a couple today. Now with their free content i'm sure everyone will be flogging them... If they weren't already!

fishov

08-02-2002, 07:57 PM

As for the Ce mags... I've had a opt in banner on my site for 6 days and i've only registered 1 click! I'm not convinced they work yet

AgentCash

08-02-2002, 09:36 PM

The FPA's work better fishov. I like the all text one myself, but I've heard the 'focus' one does very good, as well.

stonedteens

08-02-2002, 09:56 PM

ive been searching for weeks for a new sponsor..and im still with FEB..whats do you guys think is better..the pay per cc signup sponsor programs or the pay per email signup sponsor programs

and which sponsor do you recommend for that type of program?

and im talking about for a TGP website..

fishov

08-02-2002, 10:26 PM

Originally posted by Jake01

YOU ARE WRONG !!!

:rotflmao:

Very impressive stats Jake!! What kind of traffic is that from?

fishov

08-02-2002, 10:30 PM

Originally posted by Jake01
F.E.B SUCKS !!!:cussing:

:finger:

Hey Jake, Looks like You've got the numbers so why does F.E.B suck?

Mikey

08-02-2002, 10:35 PM

I like FEB, but then again I am able to convert my traffic with it. Here are my stats for today so far:

829 778 44 1:17 $44.00

I am dumbfounded when people say they are converting 1:100+ or even getting no signups from over 300+ hits.

Jake01

08-02-2002, 10:36 PM

Originally posted by fishov

Very impressive stats Jake!! What kind of traffic is that from?

child porn :cool:

AgentCash

08-02-2002, 10:56 PM

So Jake, you're a spammer, cp pusher, idiot... what are you shooting for next?

Jake01

08-02-2002, 11:06 PM

Originally posted by AgentCash
So Jake, you're a spammer, cp pusher, idiot... what are you shooting for next?

scammer,cheater

:D

stonedteens

08-03-2002, 10:49 AM

Mikey, im dumbfounded on how you can get such good ratio's!!

You must have great traffic man..be proud lol im at 1:147 :mad:

Mikey

08-03-2002, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by stonedteens
Mikey, im dumbfounded on how you can get such good ratio's!!

You must have great traffic man..be proud lol im at 1:147 :mad:

he..he
here's my stats for the first 10 hours of today:
357 337 21 1:16 $21

on their webmaster rankings, i generally rank about anywhere between 40-60. so people are doing better than me.

strangely, my worst converting traffic comes from my se pages! go figure.

stonedteens

08-03-2002, 11:33 AM

08-01-2002 320 316 10 1:31 $10
08-02-2002 600 591 4 1:147 $4
08-03-2002 272 271 3 1:90 $3

thats how my traffic goes :confused:

mr leno

08-03-2002, 02:16 PM

who wants some of my traffic?
im sending less traffic to them now but if there ratios picks up i might starting sending them more!

08-01-2002 714 706 16 1:44 $16
08-02-2002 634 625 15 1:41 $15
08-03-2002 385 361 7 1:51 $7

Breaker

08-03-2002, 02:30 PM

805 794 3 1:264 $3.00
590 478 4 1:119 $4.00
1251 960 4 1:240 $4.00

Damn i convert good hahah

This was some weeks ago then i lost faith in it.. on that traffic i could get signups instead.

unconnected

08-03-2002, 07:59 PM

Yea they have been sucking for me ever since August started..
and when a sponser's conversion ratios go from 1:45 with 12000 hits to 1:98 overnight you know something is up..
if it was from over promotion you would see a gradual slide, but this was instantaneous, and that means something is wrong

bestpornhost

08-03-2002, 08:28 PM

Yea they have been sucking for me ever since August started..

agree:confused:

High Roller

08-03-2002, 09:32 PM

free ezine bucks is a great program and bosshawg is great, 2 of my sources remain converting good, but most have gone from 1:7 to 1:15 they got bad about the beginning of August maybe July 31st, but I have faith in this great program.

Jake01

08-03-2002, 09:39 PM

how much u making a day from F.E.B ?

High Roller

08-03-2002, 09:50 PM

I was doing 300-400 with FEB up to 300-400 with pink4free
up to 30 per day with wegcash
and a few with others.

right now I promote 205 4free sites, you can check my signature to see them :-)

mr leno

08-04-2002, 01:04 AM

quit it with the spam already, newbie! who cares about your shitty site and stop acting like your an expert. jack your an idiot to believe him. i make 1 million signup a day now sign up for all my sponsors maybe i'll be lucky i make a couple of dimes from your sorry ass.

High Roller

08-04-2002, 01:21 AM

Can I ask why you don't believe me?

High Roller

08-04-2002, 01:44 AM

anyways I can email anyone a picture of my stats from pink4free showing over 400 per day. I do well with 13 other 4free sites.

http://mytgp.org/pink4free.jpg

I can email it since that picture doesn't come in that great.

curtislc

08-04-2002, 05:30 AM

I signed up yesterday with my referal link. I got the confirmation email, and was able to enter the site. I didn't get credit for it. I haven't gotten any sence then.

I was around 1:20 when I first started. I was sending about 450 hits a day, and I'm still sending the same amount of traffic.
Then just a couple of weeks ago it just dropped off. Now I'm seeing days around 1:100 to 1:140.

Mikey

08-04-2002, 06:34 AM

i don't want to sound like a dick or anything, but if you want to make bank in this biz, you really gotta learn how to sell. for all you college guys, take a freaking marketing class or something. go to the library and read some books on marketing. sell sell sell. you have to be proactive, not reactive.

bigdog

08-04-2002, 08:28 AM

hey what is the point of this thread anyway

Jake01

08-04-2002, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by High Roller

http://mytgp.org/pink4free.jpg

where the fuck is traffic coming from ? :p

High Roller

08-04-2002, 04:06 PM

jake please don't doubt me
as you can see that month did over $10,000 with pink4free and I've done well with the other 13 4free's
there are always ways to get traffic.

I see too many people not believe people.
18 months ago I was getting 2-3 signups per day with pink4free
the 3 months later 10 signups per day
then 6 months later about 400 per day, you just grow and find more and more tricks. There was a time I wouldn't have believed someone could get 300-400 signups per day, but knowing what I know now 2-3 years later, I will believe people if they say they can make $50,000 per month, anything is possible in the business if you put your mind to it.

AgentCash

08-04-2002, 04:21 PM

High Roller, why do you care who believes you? Just go make your bank and forget about it, what's more important in the end, enjoying your earnings or getting upset because someone doesn't believe you?

SoDed

08-04-2002, 04:38 PM

Nice stats high roller, got any stats for the summer time?

mr leno

08-04-2002, 04:47 PM

well.. hes just trying to refer him to make a buck or two. does anyone wanna see my stats of 1,000,000 signups this month!! if so im gonna edit my stats with photoshop!! wooohoooo...

High Roller

08-04-2002, 04:59 PM

agentcash I don't care if anyone believes me, I'll keep working hard to get what I have.
It's obvious that Mr. Leno has put his foot in his mouth.
He is really reaching.

stonedteens

08-04-2002, 05:24 PM

Originally posted by curtislc
I signed up yesterday with my referal link. I got the confirmation email, and was able to enter the site. I didn't get credit for it. I haven't gotten any sence then.

i tried that with wegcash a few days ago and the same thing happond..still no credit for it..

i also tried CE Mags and I cant figure out where to view how many clicks i have..I hate their unorganized stats

i am still waiting for the pink4free confirm email

and feb is worse then ever for me

i think im gonna give paysite sponsors a try..or ill probably just stop using sponsors and try to get my traffic better...or something..bi

High Roller

08-04-2002, 05:52 PM

hey stoned login to cemags
and click on that small options link
you can get hits, referrers, and much more.

pink4free and join4free have the best tracking system
I must warn you all
pink4free and join4free will not count hits from about 40 small countries, so that can throw you off. It will make pink4free and join4free convert much much better over FEB because of that simple fact.

I had one traffic source getting me up to 100 pink4free signups per day and it would convert 1:7 and 1:8 everyday with pink4free, tha's awesome, except almost 1/2 of those hits were asian traffic and they did not count with pink4free at all meaning if I sent that traffic to FEB they would have counted the hits.
Please everyone keep that in mind.

stonedteens

08-04-2002, 05:58 PM

i dont see an options link bro

mr leno

08-04-2002, 06:07 PM

:finger:

Jake18

08-04-2002, 10:38 PM

High Roller,

from were do you sent traffic to pink4free ?

You Run TGP ? :confused:

AgentCash

08-04-2002, 10:52 PM

Hmm... Those are a helluva lotta hits you got there (http://www.mytgp.org/rankpages/index.html) High Roller. Noticed you redirect 404's to pink4free... thought their TOS forbade that.

evilc

08-05-2002, 02:03 AM

You knwo when i first saw High Roller's post anbout 25k a month, my first thoght was, NO WAY - he's fibbing.

But then i realised that the only reason i did think that way is because i was not making that kind of money myself. SO i thght taht it was impossible for anyone else to do so too.

Now that is bullshit.

So i do think we need to give high roller a little credit. I've read some of his posts, he knows what he's talking about..

:cool:

High Roller

08-05-2002, 02:29 AM

Evil thanks alot someone finally said the right thing, and just for that private message me and I'll tell you all kinds of good secrets
:-)

by the way mytgp.org I don't use that site, so no I maybe send 10-15 404 hits to pink4free per month.

UKDan

08-05-2002, 04:48 AM

Why do some ppl have to doubt it whenever someone is making good money? It's pretty pathetic. I'm only a small time TGP guy but earlier this year I was doing 50-100 FEB signups a day without even trying too hard, so I have no problem believing those stats.

BTW, LOL, could I PM you about some getting some advice too, man? ;-))

High Roller

08-05-2002, 04:50 AM

sure UK

Mikey

08-05-2002, 09:11 AM

I just don't understand how it is so difficult for you guys to basically give away porn? if you can't give it away, how do you expect to sell it?

these are my FEB stats for the first 8 hours of today:
252 243 15 1:16 $15.00

Breaker

08-05-2002, 10:08 AM

I have a easier time selling signup memberships than free ezines :)

on 200-400clicks i usually get atleast one membership sold for $35.
on the same to FEB i get 2-3signups maybe ;)

STEVEN

08-05-2002, 10:38 AM

Originally posted by Breaker
I have a easier time selling signup memberships than free ezines :)

on 200-400clicks i usually get atleast one membership sold for $35.
on the same to FEB i get 2-3signups maybe ;)

Then keep sending them to a full membership sponsor. FEB is a very good program for what it does. And that is - convert nothing into something. They are great for CJ/CJ2/TGP traffic when you aren't getting joins to your regular sponsor. And they are a nice exit sponsor for AVS site tours. Or a 3rd/4th exit console LOL

Threads like these are a joke. The only way to know if a sponsor is going to work is to try them yourself. And then, look at how you are trying them. If I blind link a sponsor, I might get ratios of 1:6000 - 1:10,000. Does that mean they suck? No. It means I am just being lazy, and not marketing them. Even with FEB or other 4Free e-mail sponsors, blind linking is not the way to go.

High Roller, I do ok with FEB, but if you are talking about giving some tips, be sure to hit me up. I'm all for learning new tricks. I picked up some decent reminders in this thread, actually.

sexhussy

08-06-2002, 01:17 AM

Hey High Roller, if yo are giving away some info, I sure could use some. ! PLEASE ! ?

High Roller

08-06-2002, 05:21 AM

msn:
grxdesignr@aol.com

:)

Breaker

08-06-2002, 05:29 AM

I could need a lesson or two in selling free stuff ;)..

Sticks

08-06-2002, 05:33 AM

I'm doing 1:6, not on big traffic though - I warn them that they have to confirm their email and that they will be spammed silly ;)

High Roller

08-06-2002, 05:35 AM

stick that is a great idea to convert well if you are paying for your traffic, but if get free traffic, you won't need to be that harsh on warning them that much, get as many people to see it with free traffic.

Sticks

08-06-2002, 05:52 AM

Originally posted by High Roller
stick that is a great idea to convert well if you are paying for your traffic, but if get free traffic, you won't need to be that harsh on warning them that much, get as many people to see it with free traffic.

Good point. However, I am comming around to the opinion that all traffic is valuable - no matter the source. For me, perfect honesty does best - I'm completely hopeless at selling "free" memberships to Sexkey etc - sites that wham you for $40 if you don't cancel in the first month. Those sort of sites specifically preclude you from warning the surfer about the sting in the "free" membership.

The other point about being completely honest, is that surfers will trust your other links :)

stipe

01-16-2003, 02:47 PM

have any of you used non adult sites to promote free ezine? I wonder if it converts better than Adult because the user isnt used to seeing adult stuff..and hey if its free they might want to sign up and most guys like the idea of free porn. or on the other hand they might get annoyed that they dont find the whatever they are looking for and close the browser and give you a bad signup ratio please comment.