TGP2 Sites

[Oliveira]

hi Guys

Does the TGP2 Sites keep growing?

Anyone here getting success posting the tgp2 galleries or having a tgp2 site?

Better conversions but with too little traffic...

[Ride]

Haven't heard much about it lately. I think it is still a great idea, but the traffic numbers just aren't there.

Ride

[kodek]

I use to submit to tgp2 earlier.
But now most of tgp2 sites I've had in my base are closed or changed to plain tgp.
However some big ones are still out there.
So I ended posting to 5 big ones and two tgp2 gallery pools.
That's it. I agree, the idea is still good.

[Oliveira]

Hi KODEK

How much traffic did you get postgin to these 5 big tgp2 sites?

[kodek]

I don't know the exact numbers. Not much.
But I mainly submit to plain tgp sites, tgp2 is just an option.
Can't rely on tgp2 as a main money source.
What I see is that tgp2 sites don't have enough traffic.

[hybridea]

I dont know how a tgp2 could get big when the surfer has the choice of 10,000 other tgps with 20 pics instead of 5 :(

[Mikey]

this is about the one year anniversary of the tgp2. too bad it dies about 6 months ago, though.

tgp2 isn't worth it.

[Oliveira]

Originally posted by hybridea
I dont know how a tgp2 could get big when the surfer has the choice of 10,000 other tgps with 20 pics instead of 5 :(

Really hard to make them get big with tons of new tgps everyday and the galleries more and more clean...

[Mikey]

the main reason tgp2 dies is because there was no traffic to support it. there were only a few established webmasters that were sending it any decent traffic, the rest were newbie webmasters who had no traffic to grow the whole idea. 80% of the tgp2 that were out there probably had less than 400 hits a day each.

[Ride]

Yep, but it migth come back. Especially if conversions continue to suck ass.

Ride

[Mikey]

tgp2 will still be around, just like the pic post. maybe its just dormant now. but the other problem with it is it is supposed to be more about creativity with the galleries, yet i know myself and many others were getting rejected by guys with 300 hit (yep that's 300 hits a day to the tgp2, not 300k or 30k or even 3k tgp2's - 300 hits) saying there was too much selling on the page or something to that effect. even though you are allowed to put a link on the html page, some allowed the link anywhere on the apge, some only above the picture, some only below the picture, some on the right side, some on the left. little things like that didn't help the movement.

[pornodoggy]

Put your forks away, folks, 'cause there's nothing to stick them in. TGP2 ain't dead yet. It did not live up to some of the promises and claims made about it last year. It couldn't have. People were promoting it as some kind of movement or revolution that was going to save the webmasters, the whales, and life on the planet as we know it, or other such poppycock, when all it was, is, and ever will be is another porn marketing model. There were some folks out there promoting TGP2 - or themselves through TGP2 - that raised some pretty unreasonable expectations among some people, and a lot of them are still bitter about it. A whole lot of people who tried it quit. There are still folks working on it.

Some of the problems that Mikey outlined are still around, but they are fewer now. Traffic is still the problem - but that's true for everyone. There are some folks working find ways of getting the surfers into the system. There are more and more hybird TGPs out there that aren't strictly TGP2 but will take the 5-picture galleries.

It's kinda strange. You can go to any board where tgp webmasters are and you will find the wail "There's too much free porn." Bring up a solution - any solution - and there will be dozens of people ready to tell you why it won't work.

Is TGP2 a success? I may be considered a heritic among my TGP2 friends when I say "Not yet." But the game ain't over yet. Like Mr. Clemens once said, "reports of my demise have been greatly exaggerated."

[OzKaNoz]

Very well said PornoDoggy

Things are being changed and modified to make Tgp2 into what it was meant to be. More relaxed advertising rules. Most sites will share the same set of rules which will be automatically updated on all site if there is a rules change.

There were many problems and a lot of BS that popped up because of greed and ego. Well that is gone for the most part.
We are 95% fat free. And hope to turn Tgp2 into a lean mean green money machine.

So no Tgp2 is not dead by far.

Oz

[STEVEN]

If a few more TGP guys had opened up TGP2 sites, and the traffic base built up - TGP2 would be a much stronger option today.

Two weaknesses of TGP2 IMHO
1) TRAFFIC - lack of traffic, lack of guys who have a lot of traffic trading experience, lack of high grade scripts to track traffic. Lack of traffic going out to galleries.

2)Quality - You'd figure using 5 pics would make life easy, but I saw a lot of total crap. The guys that make nice galleries do TGP because they expect more than 2000 hits to a gallery if they are going to be bothered building/submitting. This would change if more experienced TGP webmasters were to/had gone into TGP2. Also, accepting pics on HTML pages is fine, until you start to generate some nice outgoing numbers. It won't take long before you will fall prey to gallery redirect cheaters who'll be sending hits to offshore clicks in no time.

[OzKaNoz]

Steve
I agree

I don't know what the traffic is like at Hi Octane TGP nowdays but it seems to me a great resource to test your idea. On the side of coarse.
If your up to the idea hit me on ICQ at 147189963

Thanks
Oz

[Ride]

Just curious, do you get better conversions/more clicks to sponsors with pics on html and a link above or below pic? The reason that I ask, is because I list a lot of mine own galleries on my TGPs and I might start putting the pics on html pages if it can generate more income. It might take a couple extra minutes per gallery, but in the long run it might be worth it. :D

Any feedback?

Ride

[OzKaNoz]

Yes click thrus and conversion are much better with the large pics on HTML pages. However some tgps won't list them because of it.

Oz

[STEVEN]

Ride, if you are going to list your own galleries, put the pics on HTML pages and add some kind of link to the sponsor. This really does increase the click thrus to your sponsors.

I think you are better off just using a good text link above or below. Linking the actual full size pic will send a lot of hits to the sponsor, but that is just blind linked hits, and not that effective.

This is actually a really, REALLY old TGP thing. Back when I first opened, a TGP gallery with 5 pics, and pics on HTML pages was accepted. But it became harder and harder to police galleries like this, especially once auto submitters bacame popular.


Oz, I am all for TGP2. I gave it a shot early on, but I just ran out of feeder traffic to power my sites. I might jump back into it again, as I think it is a smart way to go. Just a matter of having the time and extra traffic to make it a success for myself, as well as submitters.