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JewDoggyDogg
12-22-2000, 11:24 PM
nt

Ron
12-22-2000, 11:54 PM
a CJ site without KEY WORD "WITHOUT" The bullshit of a regular CJ.

These are the rules that govern a CJ2 site. You don't have to follow them. But if you don't you risk loosing your trades.

RULES:

Single Exit Console ONLY but must follow the following Rules:

Banned Console Practices
Exit must not go to trade traffic (including toplists)
Exit Must not go to a page on the same site that has trades
Exit Must not autodownload a dialer
Exit Must not have links going to non clean sites

Allowed Exit Consoles
Sponsor (Preferably without chained Exit)
Targeted Sales Page or Full Page Add
Feed of a CONSOLE FREE & CLEAN site of your own

Javascript Alert on entrance must follow these requirements: either a sponsor directly, another site of yours, a full page ad, anything that is not directed towards trading.




Banned Practices

No Entrance Console

No Chained Exit Consoles created by you (you can still exit a sponsor that has a chain)

No Layers or fake alerts or video players (Very low quality traffic methods) - All these methods do is send traffic that doesn't click very often on the target site.

No sending traffic via a right click

No timed windows or refreshes to the front or alerts

No Make your home page popups

No Make a bookmark popups

No AutoDownload of Dialer




Discouraged Practices
Trading with non clean CJ sites (Shit in Shit Out Philosophy)

Ron
12-22-2000, 11:56 PM
Why so many rules you ask??

Well it's very simple.

Quality over quantity!

richard
12-23-2000, 08:04 AM
Although there are CJ2 sites above 50k, and i think above 100k now.

I would say that you do have to follow the rules, the official CJ2 sites, complying with the rules can be seen at http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/cj2sites.html

If you want to be on the list, icq me with your site url, your webmaster page, and your nick and i'll add you as soon as i get the message.

Rich.

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 09:48 AM
what is it making more money for you guys the old cj or cj2 ?


Octav M
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 09:50 AM
you are right quality over quantity, but if you are to loose all your traffic and play with small numbers I am not sure what is better....


Octav M
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

richard
12-24-2000, 10:20 AM
Octav, is a surfer more likely to get out their credit card from a site with 2 enter pops, two exit pops, probably chained, with layers and all bullshit?

There are CJ2 sites that are doing good traffic and making alot more.

I know people for example, who are making on average 1c for their exit traffic.

Thats as much as x5 what the shittiest CJ site would make from an exit broker.

Plus i would assume there are more bookmarkers, as alot of sites have galleries on p=50 with ucj, and a few freebies of their own. This would make the traffic more stable.

Its not really anything new, its old skool CJing, where the good old days of 0.6c/impression were feasible.

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 10:30 AM
I agree but the problem is that you should not put on the rules a limit for the exit sponsor. I mean as long as the CJ2 site links on exit to 1 url (sponsor) even if it looks bad the webmaster should be accepted as CJ2. That will make sponors life much easyer and better payout could be made.

Octav M
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

richard
12-24-2000, 11:00 AM
Using "home made" exit pop ups, people are making 1c/raw hit.

NO CHAINS

I am sure that if the traffic is converting like that, you and other sponsors should be able to broker a higher price from big sponsors.

?

richard
12-24-2000, 11:06 AM
bah, not thinking straight.

What i meant was you could broker a higher price than current being paid for CJ1 exits, with no chains.

Ron
12-24-2000, 11:15 AM
Exitmoney: There is a rule regarding exit brokers cause you guys have a huge exit chain of bullshit! The point of CJ2 is QUALITY, if a surfer sees 6 bloody exits once he leaves my site, what do you think that chances are thet he/she will buy a membership at my trade partners site? Not very damn good!

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 12:26 PM
Richard,

That is completely hard to beleive. 1c a exit home made is impossible. Having it without chains it is more than dreaming. If that was the case I will just sell you all of my traffic. The truth is exits convert less than 1:40000. Dont ask me how the sponsors are making any money, It is a mistery for me as well. Just think of it if anybody was to make 1c of an exit first the big guys having all their bounch of programmers designers, etc will make more than that and could easily offer exit programs . Why nobody is doing that?

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 12:29 PM
Ron,

I dont get you....
If a surfer exits your site how will he make any signups on your trades sites? he is gone , he leaves the site and more than likely (80%-90% uniques) wont ever again come to your site again. So you dont care if exit sponsors open 50 exits or only one. Of course ethically it is not correct to have more than 1-2 with some chains, not flooding the surfers or crash their computers.
But the point is that yes you keep it as clean as possible to have quality , but for exits it is really useless to have such tough rules and make less money that you really deserve....

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

Ron
12-24-2000, 12:56 PM
There is nuthing wrong with an exit. All i am saying is that an exit with 6+ chained exits is bullshit. Nuthing agianst you, or other exit brokers. These are only my own humble thoughts.

Like rich said, i'd rather make my own exit console and sell my own sponsor.

The point of CJ2 is to try to instill some trust in our sites within the surfers, so they feel that they can click a link without getting 500 windows pushed in their face.

There are ways of making a sale without having to put the surfer through console hell.

magnatique
12-24-2000, 01:17 PM
dude... 1/40000, yah right :-)

exitmoney
12-24-2000, 03:01 PM
magnatique,

then what is the ratio if you seem to know them better ? and let us know as well how you know all that, by running an exit program for more than a year ? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Octav M.
http://www.exitmoney.com
http://www.junkexit.com

richard
12-25-2000, 09:19 AM
mag, 1/40,000 sounds about right.

Octav, i'm going on what a trusted friend told me, he made 1c/hit by exiting liveteen.

Perhaps not now, liveteen has been blasted hard.

If you want the CJ2 exit, then you need to play ball http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Merry Christmas.

Rich