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Big_Ray
11-01-2001, 05:19 PM
Hello,
Any questions concerning www.3apop.com (http://www.3apop.com) should be directed to: adam@getspace.com
He is GetSpace's Marketing Assistant.

I use them. I don't cheat. They pay me.

Here are the Terms of www.3apop.com (http://www.3apop.com)

Terms of Service



GetSpace, Inc ("we", "us" or "our") owns 3apop and licenses Webmasters the rights to utilize the 3apop program on Webmasters' website(s) as long as the Webmaster and their website(s) conform in every respect with our policies and guidelines. We reserve the right to change or amend these policies at any time without notice. We also reserve the right to revoke our license at any time without notice. Our major policies are listed below and are subject to change without prior notification.

Webmaster
Webmaster means the individual and/or entity that owns or controls a Website or Web pages that comprise a Website. Webmasters affirm they are at least 18 years of age, and will submit proof of age upon request by Geektech, Inc.

Website
A Website is defined as a Web Page or a collection of Web pages organized into an identifiable Internet Publication.

Payments
Payments are sent 10 business days after the end of the calendar month for the previous months sales. For example sales earned from 1/1/01 - 1/31/01 will be mail on 2/14/01

Applicants
An applicant to be a 3apop Webmaster must be at least eighteen (18) years of age and submit proof upon request. No applications will be accepted from Webmasters from countries with which we lack bilateral treaties, or from countries which otherwise lack certain commercial safeguards necessary to ensure the consistent implementation of our 3apop program, including Romania, Indonesia, Belarus, Malaysia, Russia, Turkey, Lebanon, Armenia, and Pakistan.

Webmaster IDs
A 3apop Webmaster ID may not be transferred or assigned to any other person or entity. The posting, publication, transfer, assignment, sharing or dissemination of a 3apop Webmaster ID or any other 3apop ID is strictly prohibited.

Unlawful Activities
Fraud, illegal activities, unfair or deceptive trade practices or violation of the 3apop Policies (as amended) will result in immediate termination of your account. No commissions will be paid on fraudulent transactions and payments may be withheld if fraud is suspected. Any unlawful activities or activities that, within our sole and absolute discretion, may be or are harmful to its reputation, image, goodwill (including but not limited to inappropriate usenet postings or spamming) will result in immediate termination. Illegal content is strictly prohibited.

Limited Use License
If you are in full compliance with our Policies and guidelines, we may, at our sole discretion, grant to you a limited use license for our 3apop System. Violation of the 3apop limited use license of trademarks and copyrighted materials is prohibited. Use of 3apop trademarks and copyrighted materials to obtain any personal information of a 3apop customer is strictly prohibited.

Miscellaneous
Any failure or delay in enforcement of the General policies by 3apop shall not be deemed a waiver or modification of any terms hereof. Interpretation, modification, termination and enforcement of these General Policies shall, at all times, be within the sole and absolute discretion and control of 3apop. By submitting an application to become a 3apop Webmaster, the applicant agrees to be bound by these General Policies which shall be construed under the Laws of the State of Minnesota. Jurisdiction and venue for any dispute arising hereunder shall be in Hennepin County, Minnesota. Each 3apop Webmaster shall indemnify and hold 3apop harmless from any and all liabilities, claims, damages (including attorney's fees) threatened or incurred as a result of the Webmaster's activities. 3apop is a trademark of GetSpace, Inc.; All rights and benefits, including but not limited to the indemnity provisions, shall inure to the benefit of GetSpace, Inc., its officers, directors, shareholders, employees and agents.

Prohibitions
A 3apop Participating Site may not display, publish, link to, or provide access to any images, pictures, stories, video clips or any other media portraying any content that is deemed illegal in the United States. Any site containing content deemed illegal in the United States will have their 3apop account de-activated.

Additional Requirements
Participating Site Webmasters are responsible for providing all content, material, products, and/or services on the site. We are not responsible for any content provided on Participating Sites.

GetSpace, Inc. reserves the right to terminate the account of any affiliate who publicly posts derogatory and or slanderous statements about 3apop.com, Getspace, Inc., its subsidiaries or officers. Getspace, Inc. vigorously defends itself against false and slanderous statements.

We reserve the right, at our request, to see all referring pages and server logs to your 3apop.com account's referring pages. If this information is not provided to 3apop, Inc at our request your account will be terminated and all monies owed will be forfeited.

Non-compliance with these terms and conditions will result in the forfeiture of all monies owed and the possible prosecution of the violating Webmaster.

Seems pretty straight forward to me.

Big_Ray www.dirtymessages.com (http://www.dirtymessages.com)

I like them. That's why I post this. The flames are from most likely existing pay per click and pop up sponsors who can't use one pop up. That's my guess anyway.

Big_Ray
11-01-2001, 05:58 PM
P.S.
They do not have a webmaster referral program... so I'm not making any extra money by vouching for them. I use them and they pay me. That's a good relationship to me.

Big_Ray
DirtyMessages.com

Jon
11-01-2001, 06:22 PM
It still belongs in the annoucement board like you posted previously

Jon

Big_Ray
11-01-2001, 06:30 PM
I understand. I hope you let me slide this time. I was clarifying all of the post below... but you are right.

Big_Ray

Dan S
11-01-2001, 06:39 PM
Something makes me wondering :D

So they do not accept applications from countries lacking bilateral treaties. But they allow only US, UK + CAN to join?


Does CPM necessarily mean its raw? Or is it uniques? Could`t find info...

Jon
11-01-2001, 06:46 PM
Originally posted by Big_Ray:
<STRONG>P.S.
They do not have a webmaster referral program... so I'm not making any extra money by vouching for them. I use them and they pay me. That's a good relationship to me.

Big_Ray
DirtyMessages.com</STRONG>

Ummmm Umm...

I was a bit bored and did a whois on the domains as I felt something a bit fishy...

My thoughts were correct...

Whois on dirtymessages.com

RAYMONDWILLIAMS
5390 BOULDER HWY
LAS VEGAS, NV, 89122
United States

DFORUMS@HOTMAIL.COM
7024566844


Whois on 3apop.com

ADAMRILEY
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
MINNESOTA, MN, 77577
United States
GET SPACE, INC
ADAM@GETSPACE.COM
7024566844

Same phone number?

Also both domains were updated on the same day...

Am I reading into this too much?

Jon

Backov
11-01-2001, 08:31 PM
Good detective work there. Spammer exposed, job well done.

Cheers,
Backov

Big_Ray
11-01-2001, 08:58 PM
GetSpace took over the site from me when I was unable to make it work. If I were a spammer 3apop.com would be all over the message boards...but it's not.

That's my old phone number... guess he forgot to change it... but I'll leave it up so you won't think I'm doing anything underhanded.

It's a good program and I hope you will try it so it can prove me right... they pay and they have one pop up. What else could you ask for?

Question above...answer...
The pay on uniques per 24 hours. That means they pay on your daily unique visitors.

I have 2apop, 4apop and 5apop.com registered too if anyone is interested. Those are still in my name along with many, many more.

You can continue to use your programs... I'm just saying that 3apop.com is the best one so far. One pop up... you can't beat that.

Big_Ray
DirtyMessages.com

toker
11-02-2001, 12:25 PM
Hmm interesting..

"You can continue to use your programs... I'm just saying that 3apop.com is the best one so far. One pop up... you can't beat that."

Nuff Said guilty by affiliation!

Mods you know the drill.. :)

Big_Ray
11-02-2001, 01:49 PM
Hello,
I have posted a follow up to my original announcement in the Announcement Board. Feel free to go there and flame me. I should not have posted this thread in this forum...as I stated above.

I like this website. I like seeing competitors bash each other. It keeps the programs that they offer fresh and updated.

Competition helped build America.

Doesn't Toker run an exit program? I'd be worried if I were him too. I'm surprised more of the click programs haven't bashed www.3apop.com (http://www.3apop.com) yet. It's going to hurt alot of peoples customer base and sales... but that's what competition is all about.

The veteran webmasters will appreciate the one exit pop up... the competitors will not...which one are you?

I'll consider this thread closed and will gladly respond to your positive and negative comments in the Announcement Board where it belongs.

Have a Great Weekend,
Big_Ray

Backov
11-02-2001, 02:29 PM
It sounds like a good deal for people wanting to sell their exits - but what's the count like? How fast does this pop load?

Cheers,
Backov

qpabani
11-02-2001, 04:19 PM
3apopup SUCKS. when you look at their sample, theres one popup. when u put it on your site, theres the dreaded "found404" page that loads popup after popup after popup. the exit itself spawns 3 popups, and then those go an reproduce also..

i highly recommend offshore.. love them. EXCELLENT tech support, and they are lineant too :). Plus they pay $1CPM more than 3apopup

Big_Ray
11-02-2001, 05:45 PM
Does anyone else get more than the 1 pop up on www.3apop.com (http://www.3apop.com) ?

I use IE6 and Windows 98. My security settings are normal...

Here's my pop up code:
http://63.66.136.61/valid.asp?id=4

I only get one pop up and when I close it no more pop ups appear? I even let the page set there for 10 minutes to see if it spawned anymore. It did not.


Big_Ray

Here's the HTML code for the page... can any techies tell anything by it?

The page that loads in the GetSpace Servers Page:
http://www.found404.com/affiliate2/3apop/pcpop.html?id=4

&lt;html&gt;
&lt;head&gt;
&lt;script language="javascript"&gt;
if (window != top) top.location.href = location.href;
tmpstr = location.href;
document.write('&lt;frameset rows="*,100%" frameborder="no"&gt;\n');
if(tmpstr.indexOf("?id=") != -1)
{
id = tmpstr.slice(tmpstr.indexOf("?id=")+4);
document.write('&lt;frame src="pcpopb.html?id='+id+'"&gt;\n');
}
else
{
document.write('&lt;frame src="pcpopb.html"&gt;\n');
}
if(navigator.appName.indexOf("icrosoft") != -1 && (document.all))
{
document.write('&lt;frame src="pcpopc_ie.html"&gt;\n');
}
else
{
document.write('&lt;frame src="pcpopc_ns.html"&gt;\n');
}
document.write('&lt;/frameset&gt;\n');
&lt;/script&gt;
&lt;noscript&gt;
&lt;frameset rows="*,100%" frameborder="no"&gt;
&lt;frame src="pcpopb.html"&gt;
&lt;frame src="pcpopc_xx.html"&gt;
&lt;/frameset&gt;
&lt;/noscript&gt;
&lt;/head&gt;
&lt;/html&gt;

Coke
11-02-2001, 05:53 PM
Yes, I counted 4 but I closed the hidden one before it started loading.

Big_Ray
11-02-2001, 05:58 PM
I don't understand why some people get more than the one? All of my forum owners that use it only get one...?

Hmmmm... Oh Well... sorry for the hassle. Maybe it's a browser thing?

I'll refrain from posting 3apop.com since it doesn't seem to be compatable with everyone. I only got one pop up...that's why I stood behind the program. Sorry that I was wrong. :confused:

Big_Ray

Jer
11-02-2001, 06:34 PM
HELP ! I got more than 18 pop-ups ! I closed everything, it would pop even more. Cloded the hidden one too.

Jer
11-02-2001, 06:36 PM
It might be a country redirection to more or less pop-ups.

shane
11-02-2001, 07:46 PM
i got 2 hiddenones, that pop delayed windows with exit chains.

subog
11-02-2001, 08:18 PM
It crashed my WinXP :D

qpabani
11-02-2001, 08:24 PM
Big_Raay be quiet. we all know youre spamming for your company. i made the mistake of asking if you guys were for real with my post 2 days ago because on your sample u showed only one popup. when i actually put the code on my page, there were NUMEROUS popups, as one counted, 21. Dont bullshit us, were not stupid. its not a browser thing, its your popup code.

toker
11-02-2001, 08:40 PM
Now you say i run an exit program???

Jeez really i must be makin some great bank!

Try another one fool i dont run any programs so im not a competetor asshole. Try doing your research before you make yourself look like a fool.

If you say i run some program how about letting me in on this program so i can collect my funds.... Spammer!!

Big_Ray
11-02-2001, 08:59 PM
The multiple pop ups must be a country redirection. I still only get one. I'm in Vegas? Who knows...I still use it. All of my forum owners who use it are from Canada and the US...so it has got to be something to do with the country. I'm sure the other pop up programs are similar...except www.3apop.com (http://www.3apop.com) only seems to have one pop up for English traffic. That's my guess... All the other exit programs have multiple pop ups no matter what. So YES... 3apop.com is still the best... unless all of your traffic is foreign.

Love you too Toker. You have a great personality!

Big_Ray

qpabani
11-02-2001, 10:32 PM
guess what Big_Ray, im from canada. friends from US. that fits perfectly with your group. and believe it or not, we get multiple popups. who the fuck are u trying to fool here.. think were noobs? weve been in this biz longer than u probably. cant lie to us my friend, go spam the newbie resources board, and if they dont laugh at you, you may make a dollar or two.

qpabani
11-02-2001, 10:34 PM
perhaps you should read the WHOIS posted earlier..

mukoh
11-03-2001, 12:13 AM
Hmm Big Ray, Yeah definately.
What the FUCK are you talkinga about.
Your pop up id popped up 4 consoles on me from Canada, and 4 on my friend from seattle washington both browsers english, and same Verizon Dsl connection.
Who are you kidding guy?

Big_Ray
11-03-2001, 06:08 AM
I would be upset if I were you too!

I still only get one pop up. I guess I'm the luckiest person in the orld... good thing I live in Vegas huh?

I only was going bu what I saw. I get one pop up.

Are the other pop ups pornographic? If not, that might be the only bright spot left for 3apop.com I mean, at least it wouldn't compete with your current adult sponsors that you use... but I don't know because I only get the one non pornographic pop up.

I'm kinda new to the business... I just entered my 3rd year. My site www.dirtymessages.com (http://www.dirtymessages.com) gets around 150,000 daily uniques. I think that's pretty good. Maybe I should just stick to running that and using my choice of sponsors. I really did think that 3apop.com only had one pop up. How could I think any different until you guys posted to the contrary?

I always got paid from SYE and OffShore... never said those companies were bad. But they dod have multiple pop up chains and everyone still uses them...I thought you AW's might want to use a one pop up program instead... until I found out that there was more than one pop up. It's clearly my mistake... but I'm not gonna run off and hide. You'd really think I was a "stinker" then. You can always find me at home: www.dirtymessages.com (http://www.dirtymessages.com) I bet some of you even post messages there. I would if I needed traffic. The exit pop up(s) pay my bandwidth every month. That's how I keep everything free. It works for me.

Ok... I guess that's it. I'll be around.

Big_Ray
DirtyMessages.com

Jer
11-03-2001, 08:15 AM
Big Ray, all pops are from CJ (!), paysites, dialers poping in your screen, and more CJs.

Jer
11-03-2001, 08:17 AM
Big Ray, save all your work before clicking below: http://www.asianfreepics.com/free/
The console hell starts here. Good luck.

Big_Ray
11-03-2001, 09:17 AM
That's just terrible! If I knew that those pages were popping up I'd never have even opened my mouth!

Big_Ray