TGP owners! Stop fuck gallery webmasters!!

[maxuscz]

Your gallery description may not exceed 30 characters<br />************************************<br />What the FUCK!!!!!!<br />Hey TGP owners!!!!<br />If you have Gallery Description field 150 characters long, why your fucked script write me:<br />Your gallery description may not exceed 30 characters<br />Are you haven't head? If you don't line description more than 30 characters why you don't edit your HTML form???<br />I post gallery to more than 150 TGP and I can't write different descripton on each other TGP form.<br />And don't tell me something like "Shut up"<br />Webmasters give you fresh content on from pay hosting (why from pay hosting?? becouse you blaklist all free hostings).What the fuck you mean ?<br />You change recip link avery 2 week<br />your fuked rules alway under costraction<br />you don't like small thumbs<br />you dosn't accept less than 15 pics<br />and you kiss serfer ass and tell about income down, bad conversion ratio and bad situation in adul business...<br />Stop fuck webmasters!<br />And start fuck serfers, who need more free content...

[kong]

Bad day?

[toker]

Well i have 30 chr limit because of my design personally i like things neat and tidy. Yes surfers deserve to get it up the ass at times but they are the bread and butter of our industry. <br /><br />TGP owners have to change their sites around to match other sites or their sites/images may become boaring. As a gallery builder you would have no problem with using a hot new sponsor banner and for TGPs its same deal. They want to improve or create somthing new to benifit them and you have to accept that. <br /><br />If sponsor emails and tells you that a new link must be used because of some upgrades will you tell them fuck you?<br /><br />Your barking up the wrong tree and if you dont like it build your own TGP as big as you like and only list our own stuff. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <br /><br />You can call me an asshole if you must vent a bit more i dont mind it. I just hope you can get a clue about the facts times change people change everythng changes and you just have to keep up. <br /><br />I should email Bill Gates and call him a cock sucking bastard because MS creates an Upgrade and for me to use i must install it.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

[Therion]

i agree with you Maxus but you could tell it a more cultivated.

[maxuscz]

Yes, BAD DAY<br /><br />But this situation really stupid. All TGP change something, thay don't like autosubmit and I good webmaster use "hand made" posting to more than 150 TGP. And now this situation - 20% submit form changed: changed rulse, recip links or something else <img border="0" alt="[Ouch]" title="" src="graemlins/ouch.gif" /> <br />20% !! And I lost my time. I try to be "good webmaster" but TGP owner don't try it. Any step for make easy my HARD work <img border="0" alt="[Repuke]" title="" src="graemlins/repuke.gif" />

[Brian911]

do everything for your surfers, and you'll get it back 1000 times (in form of your bandwith bill)<br /><br />seriously, tgps and their freeloaders should burn in hell and I do better without supporting their free jerk-off trips by not posting expensive content and getting some sign-ups from 500,000 visitors <img border="0" alt="[Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/finger.gif" />

[a2000]

toker yes of course you are right, but you forget about one small thing<br />TGP without gallery makers die<br />and I think that any owner of tgp with 1000's rules and super hiper requirements should remember<br />I know so many people which finished making galleries and this number grows every day, what do you think why? <br />For example LLs are much more profitable and much less fucks webmaster in the ass.

[a2000]

and personally I make only 1-2 galleries a month to check how some new sponsor sells on worst traffic <br /> <img border="0" alt="[Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/finger.gif" />

[shane]

TGPs SUCK!! GALLERYBUILDERS SUCK!! CJs RULE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> (cj1 of course, not this cj2 crap)

[exitmoney]

Maxus,<br /><br />I am really sorry to hear that. Long time ago when you used to sell us traffic I remember you as a good guy and successful webmaster.... <br />It is too bad that this industry seems to be harder and harder to make a living and could frustrate you at that point. But as we say life is never fair, try to work on other projects if TGP seems not to work anymore.<br /><br />That is not an advice as I have no clue how the TGP is doing those days, so to other webmasters just starting into this industry, don't get me wrong, I only try to somehow support Maxus.<br /><br />So Maxus, keep up hoping and at a point or another everything will get better, I am very sorry to hear your pain. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

[toker]

But those big 500k TGPs are not just as simple to build as your galleries. Hun im sure could afford to pay guys to make him galleries along with many other big guys. <br /><br />Reality "they dont need you" "You need each other" when it comes down to it or you would not be posting. I know the feeling to spend money on content only to have it rejected a week later by hun. I cant however make him see the light from my point of view hes making money and thats his bottom line. <br /><br />Some of the new DINKY TGPs ive seen have very strict rules and to me its simple i wont waste my time. Many TGPs are also tring to push off the flood of content like hun so their is a plus side. By not allowing old stuff over and over you push out some of the leaches who just keep pushing it all out there and make room for guys who actually do buy it. <br /><br />If i buy it and i want to give it away its just like a paysite that gives away a free membership i dont see anyone complaining about join4free type sites. Because they give you a whole whopping $1 per email it makes all the differance to many people but they are in reality doing just what TGPs do. <br /><br />I can see from both sides of the field here and CJ is not the answer to success for everyone (maybe some). Most of the CJs i see today are wanabie CP/Incest sites and popup infested shitholes that crash the surfers PC. <br /><br />I was a surfer long before webmaster and no CJ ever stopped me from finding what i wanted it just took me longer and eventually brought me to AWI. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />Wonder how many got here the same way.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

[a2000]

heh if all those big guys start paying to make galleries for them /or buy content and workers/ it will be X times less profitable for them. Just consider every day you have to pay one or other way to make for example 100 galleries with 10-20 legal pics. And this you have to do 365 days a year. And even if 3-5 tgps can do this /but their profits will be less/ where is the rest of tgps?<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

[run]

a2000: <br /><br />Running TGP is profitable.<br />Building gallerys is profitable.<br /><br />Tell me how a profitable activity like building gallery will decrease the profit of a TGP...

[a2000]

1000-2000 legal pics from every niche every day - you cannot add only one niche because you loose bookmarkers<br />you cannot always rotate same pics - you loose bookmarkers<br />someone to build every day those 100 galleries and make them different templates for each niche etc. or you loose money <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br />etc. <br />and remember year has 365 days and thos tgps aren't here only for one year <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br />if this is so simple and more profitable than classic system, why everyone do not make tgps with his own content? If you can make more money this new way it will be stupid not to do this.<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br />I understand that there are few guys which maybe can afford this for all time, but I'm sure that thay will have netto much less money than now.

[Dr.Disaster]

Building galleries is the easiest way to make a lot of money if u know how to make galleries.<br /><br />The most tgp webmaster think that bookmarkers are important to get a big crappy tgp so they invent new rules to keep bookmarkers.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> TGPs SUCK!! GALLERYBUILDERS SUCK!! CJs RULE (cj1 of course, not this cj2 crap) </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yeah cj2 is the same shit as tgp.<br />20k cj traffic worth more than 150k Tgp traffic.<br /><br />If tgp doesnt work good for u try cj/cj2/avs/SE there are a lot of ways in this industry.

[kmanrox]

someone woke up on the wrong side of his DSL line..

[Toni]

TGP owners are giving you traffic for free, so follow the rules and get listed. This is how things work. If you don't like the rules of a TGP don't submit to it.<br /><br />Soon you will need to pay to get listed on TGP's!<br /> <img border="0" alt="[Nod]" title="" src="graemlins/nod.gif" />

[darksoft]

Traffic for free? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That is fucking funny!

[a2000]

Hehehe, buing tgp traffic, great joke.<br /> <img border="0" alt="[Finger]" title="" src="graemlins/finger.gif" /> <br /><br />and to repeat myself, classic tgpowners should remember also about gallerybuilders becouse without fresh new high quality galleries every day, they soon loose their "great" and high traffic.<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

[shane]

The sooner TGPs start charging for listings, the better....<br /><br /> Its getting rediculus with all these people now having to run 5 TGSWs and submit 10 galleries each day using Russian submitter to make any money from them. cause the over saturation gets more and more, and the bubble has finally bursed. <br /><br /> My TGPs (whome i use mairly for emailing notices to webmasters and link popularity) gets ziltch hits, yet has 500 submissions daily. 80% is stolen content, 10% are cheaters, 10% is good stuff <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

[maxuscz]

thank you, exitmoney<br />I still online and I have energy for work and make traffic and other great idea.<br />About TGP traffic - I still have conversion ratio 1/500 and it's dosn't bad <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br />And still exist people, who can made big money on TGP traffic. Really exist.<br /><br />I talk about good webmastres:<br />We work hard and we make business - we dosn't any stipid boy's who build stpid gallerys for make 200 USD per month. If stupid TGP owner don't like our work - we can ignore this TGP 8)<br />My 2 years TGP practical tell me - small TGP have good traffic. <br /><br />toker, you a right - it's business<br />if we don't like tgp rules - we can ignore this tgp<br />all smart webmaster can make this - ignore stupid TGP<br /><br />a2000 - really good word's<br />TGP's die without gallery builders<br /><br />soon come situation. where all good webmasters from banned country, like Czech Republic, former USSR and other go to work with sponsors from this bad country only. Maybe afte this some great sponsors review his stupid rules and remove Kaliningrad country from big bad country list.<br />Ha ha ha ha ha <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br />Kaliningrad is city - it's former Kenigsberg<br />Hey sponsors!!!! Dos'n exist Kaliningrad country!<br />It's city

[Toni]

a2000,<br /><br />you seem to be a real smart guy, how much do you make a month? How long are you in this business to know how things work?<br /><br />and btw, how much do you spend each month for hosting and for fresh content? Or do you free host and "copy" pictures from other galleries?

[a2000]

you seem to be a real smart guy, how much do you make a month?<br /><br />enough <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br /> How long are you in this business to know how things work?<br /><br />about 3 years<br /><br />and btw, how much do you spend each month for hosting and for fresh content?<br /><br />just enough for my requirements <br /><br /> Or do you free host and "copy" pictures from other galleries? <br /> <br />sorry man, you are talking about yourself?<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

[Toni]

You got me!<br /> <img border="0" alt="[ROTFLMAO]" title="" src="graemlins/rotflmao.gif" />

[Terrance11]

this thread is stupid

[enlighter]

somehow I now feel stupid too, because I read this thread up to this point!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />