Evolution in designing

[QuaShe]

Lately I get questions from clients asking for a site like the bangbus or like the adultpremium sites. All adultpremium sites seem to be designed in a new way, same for oxcash.

My question is, is this just a thing of this moment? Or do regular paysite designs still work these days?

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[tie]

its nice to be new and innovative. we always look to better our competitors. so thats the way i think it will go.

[QuaShe]

What I was wondering is if these new type off sites sell better then the regular ones?

Don't get me wrong, I like them better, but does the surfer like them better too?

Has there ever been some sort of investigation about promoting the same site with 2 types off layout, I know ARS (and a lot more) does diffrent tours, but are they better or worse. Never tried it myself, but does someone know?

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[lachiep]

go ask some people off the street or get some ordinary surfers to compare...

best way to do it i guess

[QuaShe]

Originally posted by lachiep
go ask some people off the street or get some ordinary surfers to compare...

best way to do it i guess

I want webmaster experiences ;)

[Bruno]

Each paysite project should be designed uniquely. Some can be horizontal, some can be magazine style, some can be bangbus style, it really depends on what the site is all about and what the target of the site is.

At www.dickmansdesign.com we always do our best to provide the most efficient design solution, no matter what type of design is needed.

So yeah Quashe, bangbus style is a trend right now, but so what? Doesnt mean you need to follow that. Do what you think is better for your clients, not what everyone else is doing

Take care,

Bruno Dickman

[QuaShe]

Originally posted by Bruno
Each paysite project should be designed uniquely. Some can be horizontal, some can be magazine style, some can be bangbus style, it really depends on what the site is all about and what the target of the site is.

At www.dickmansdesign.com we always do our best to provide the most efficient design solution, no matter what type of design is needed.

So yeah Quashe, bangbus style is a trend right now, but so what? Doesnt mean you need to follow that. Do what you think is better for your clients, not what everyone else is doing

Take care,

Bruno Dickman

Have to agree, but what I want to know is selling numbers off each off 'm.

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[MichaelH]

I think there's some positive trends to reality sites like bangbus etc... I made some little "tests" with some good friends and showed them once the kind of sites available on the adult net. Compared to conventional pornstar/movies sites, I noticed they were very much interested to the reality type site. Most of all, the oxcash sites were the real catcher because of the previews from the different episodes. It literally nailed the friends on the monitor, and i bet that some of them "discretely" joined them.

I think it has not only much to do with the reality feature in it alone, but also with the nature of how things are filmed. People are simply themselves (on the movies), and they laugh a lot etc... not the cramped "aah... uuuuuuuuuhm... yeeeeesssss" blabla... The laughing aspect was i think the feature which really nailed them, since it was funny, cool and well... exciting...lol

Not really a webmasters experience, but it's what i could notice. ;)

[QuaShe]

Originally posted by MichaelH
I think there's some positive trends to reality sites like bangbus etc... I made some little "tests" with some good friends and showed them once the kind of sites available on the adult net. Compared to conventional pornstar/movies sites, I noticed they were very much interested to the reality type site. Most of all, the oxcash sites were the real catcher because of the previews from the different episodes. It literally nailed the friends on the monitor, and i bet that some of them "discretely" joined them.

I think it has not only much to do with the reality feature in it alone, but also with the nature of how things are filmed. People are simply themselves (on the movies), and they laugh a lot etc... not the cramped "aah... uuuuuuuuuhm... yeeeeesssss" blabla... The laughing aspect was i think the feature which really nailed them, since it was funny, cool and well... exciting...lol

Not really a webmasters experience, but it's what i could notice. ;)

These are the things I want to know ;)


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[MichaelH]

Glad to have satisfied you :bounce:

[QuaShe]

Originally posted by MichaelH
Glad to have satisfied you :bounce:

Well not totally, but hey it's a start :bounce:

[Freakster.net]

I think surfers are too used to basic "ceybererotica"-look alike designs... they are so used to see them over and over they probably close the window as fast as it opens...

I personnaly like those new designs alot more and I'm sure they'll make the old paysite concepts near obsolete conversion wize

But thats my 2 cents :p

[sinno]

what I dislike about "old style" tours is I'm not sure what can I expect inside - usually I see something like "1000s photos, live feeds, hot videos" - pure plug-in pool :-)

when I hit "new style" tour I see something like: hot blonde banged in the ass "50 min video", next babe "40 min video" + more exclusive stuff

[Freakster.net]

Yes.. new designs show a huge preview of what's inside so you know clearly what to expect.. old ones are just a couple of chicks with "facts" about whats inside without much of a preview... surfers have been fooled too many times to trust porn sites anymore I'd say ;)

[Za Ha]

From my surfer perspective :

Bangbus was great when it came out. Everyone had a :eek: on their face... but after a couple visits to the members section it got boring. The same routine over and over and the girls were nothing special, (in fact they quite the opposite). Simply put the concept is great but wears down very quickly.

A "regular" site as you put it, will always attract customers because everyone has fantasies... and Bangbus or whatever, just doesn't satisfy them to the fullest extent.

[sinno]

well, you mean "regular" [or better "old style"] site is attracting surfers better?

I suppose "old style" is used mostly to hide "junk" overused content :-)

[pornodoggy]

My personal opinion is that once you get inside the "new and improved" sites, there is nothing more there than was in the "old school" sites. I think the "reality" trend will peak, bust, and be replaced by something else - and quite possibly soon.

And if I knew what would replace it, I would be happy to tell you ... just as soon as I had the site(s) up and running and was making money off it:D. Different things are going to sell different surfers. Different webmasters are going to fail with concepts, designs and ideas that others make a killing off of.

Experiment. Test and retest. Try it - Wally Wanker may like it.

[Pinhead]

Originally posted by Freak
I think surfers are too used to basic "cybererotica"-look alike designs... they are so used to see them over and over they probably close the window as fast as it opens...


Exactly!!

I've seen this happening myself and IRL when a couple of buddies were surfing porn at night in a computer lab. I sat in the back just observing them for a while.

When they hit upon a reular paysite design the were quick to close the window or use the back window. But paysites with other designs a la Nastydollar or magazine style caught their attention and made them stay to check it out more thoroughly.

So old regular paysite design means a high probability the surfer won't even bother to take a look at the site, i.e. lost sales.

[sinno]

here is an example: take a look at ARS daily ranking, guess what you find there

top 3 "best ratio" sites for today
1. magazine style
2. regular style
3. magazine style

[QuaShe]

Originally posted by sinno
here is an example: take a look at ARS daily ranking, guess what you find there

top 3 "best ratio" sites for today
1. magazine style
2. regular style
3. magazine style

True but, this is showing an overall ratio. So it's not based on one man's promotion skills.


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[sinno]

well, that's my point

as this isn't based on promotion skills it shows real overall ratio = what surfers really want

[Bruno]

Originally posted by sinno
well, that's my point

as this isn't based on promotion skills it shows real overall ratio = what surfers really want

agreed sinno!

The problem with "CyberErotica type of sites" is that they lie to the customers most of the times - THATS the problem, not design. Now I believe that there can be a half way between it. For the ones of you who don't noticed yet, take a look at the new www.cumonherface.com site (happens to be our design hehe).

The thing is fucking converting like MAD, and I know because I see my ratios, and about 3 of my friend's ratios. Why does it convert? Because it has great content is one of the reasons, of course, but designwise, it tells the truth to the surfer, without the need to look "crappy".

Just my 2 cents! :)

Take care,

Bruno