converting tgp traffic?

[rip raster]

I am having trouble converting tgp traffic any suggestions would be greatly appreciated http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Doctor Dre]

Everybody have troubles converting it ... I have too much of theses crap visitors . why not cloose all tgps and turn them into paysitse all the same day ??? ppl would freak and we would all be rich

[Much0S]

Exactly and the whole world would be a happier place, we all would instantly would get back to making cj's, conversions would rise from 1:1500 to 1:300 with normal paysites, etc.

I'm a firm believer that TGP's are fucking up the market.

Giving out a little bit of free shit everyday is good, but giving it away all for free ... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

A basic wanker doesn't know whats in a paysite all he knows is he wants to wank. If he goes to the hun, worldsex, richards realm or any of the other TGP's giving at least 50 links a day, that's enough stuff to wank off for them... so then they wont signup for normal paysites...

The only thing converting is shit sick, things like beastiliaty, scat, and HARDcore shit... nobody will pay for an average paysite anymore - they can get all that shit for free...

[nobody]

rip raster,
If you are having trouble converting TGP traffic,send your TGP traffic to a blind link sponsor! Then you dont have to worry about converting :-)
Heres a blind link sponsor I found the other day that pays 3 cents raw and doesnt have ANY traffic leaks on their gateway page
FilthyClicks (http://www.filthyclicks.com)
So far I am doing very well with this program.

[Rod]

Just think about it.....how do you guys feed your CJ sites?

I guess TGP traffic...am I wrong?

Damn, if you want to trade with TGP's, just don't do it...there's enough surfers that have neever seen a TGP out there!

[Much0S]

TGP Traffic is the most terrible traffic out there.

Best traffic is SE traffic (because those ppl are dumb) and Free site traffic (because they've seen some pics, so obviously they're in search for more).

I am not stating having content is wrong: on the contrary! Having content is excellent.

Having too much content is wrong, because it causes the surfer to stop searching for something better. (And you don't want him to stop until he reaches your 50/50 recurring program http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)

[chimp]

I remember seeing a shitload of 'new age tgps' a year or two ago but I don't much anymore. I remember there was a backlash against them on the pornshitty board. They're still around I guess, I just don't think they did as well as they could have. It seems like a great idea to me and I think would work great if they were trading with cj sites.

Anyway...Their rules stated that any galleries submitted to them couldn't contain more than 5 thumbnails or had to be an AVS and had to consist of softcore content. The thumbs have to open in HTML in a new window with sponsor links. You know how this works...the surfer gets a taste but can't find what he's REALLY looking for, so he's more likely to buy a membership to a pay site (in theory anyway). Some have rules that demand a minimum number of blind links, etc. I think if more people were running and sending to these types of tgps from their cj sites that the traffic would convert better. Maybe people already are, I dunno http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Someone fill me in on this. I know some of you are putting content on your cj2 sites, but that's different. Anyone here ever run a new age tgp? Do webmasters actually send galleries? Did the traffic convert? Does everyone think I'm retarded?

[battuss]

I tried all kind of things and found out that having a free site with galleries gives the best conversion. Way better than any cj.
Im doing 1:100 - 1:500 with all my sponsors.
With tgp traffic im doing 0:40.000 at the moment and cj 1:2000 or something.

[chimp]

But how do you feed these free sites? That's really what matters. A place to send CJ traffic where it will convert is what I'm looking for here. Sending SE traffic to free sites, well yeah, that's going to convert like mad. Send the same amount of CJ traffic to your free site and you might as well be flushing it down the toilet. If you're talking about CJ traffic, my apologies and congratulations on your success. I have never been able to convert it by sending it to free sites with content.

[battuss]

Well, actually im talking about free sites without blind links and popups and stuff like that. Just normal link exchanges. without any script. if you can get 5k traffic that way it will be worth more than 20k cj traffic. Since a week i also have some feeder sites but those arent doing to well, i got linked by 5 kinda big link sites and they send a total of 500 hits a day http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

[battuss]

Hmm, i didnt answer that correctly.
I send a few hits from my cj to that free site but thats to send some traffic to my links, not to convert. The conversion comes from traffic that i make with link exchanges from the same kinda sites. (no cj's)

[snow]

---------------------------------------------I'm a firm believer that TGP's are fucking up the market.

Giving out a little bit of free shit everyday is good, but giving it away all for free
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I agree 100 percent...

[bigdog]

if more progs change to per active member and shit the tgps will die out

[Doctor Dre]

I do make moeny from my tgp ... And i don't like giving all this shit ! shit

We all need to give less ... and we all need to do it the same day together . Like that nobody will drop . But the problem is that not everybody will do it . There will always be hun and other big boys who are giving tons of free shit and don't want to drop . Thats killing the whole industry .

[jdante]

softcore only on the tgps

sell the hardcore

you'll make money that way

[Mr Exotic]

That would be all nice, but then try telling that to the Hun, christ, limit him to softcore, hahhaa, I have seen anything from beastiality to scat on that site, SICK SHIT!!!

[Backov]

Active member is a fucking scam perpetrated on us by good ole CE. Now, straight partnership, that would certainly change the industry.. But really, per signup will be around for quite a while. Watch ARS, when they lower their 35$ payout, you know that per-signup is in serious difficulty.

Cheers,
Backov

[manga]

Try having only the first 5-10 links in your tgp going to content and send the rest to trades. The idea is to tease the surfer so he wants more. Having a list of hundreds of galleries with lots of hardcore pictures is retarded. The only good thing about having lots of content is you can build up your bookmarker traffic, which is more stable than cj traffic. Other than that, it sucks.

[harvey]

Want to make money? Then kill anybody close to you who owns a free host (just kidding), but really, tell Mr. Wannamakeeazymoney that he'll have to pay a host to be listed at The Hun, or Thumbzilla or Worldsex and that he must pay something like 1000-1500 dollars a month on hosting. Then, he/she will run under the bed and therefore, there will be less free material for surfers, less pages submitted to TGPs, and once the snowball starts, I guess you'll make the picture. Better yet: write to the congress people in USA since it's the main internet market and tell them you don't want any porn in the web, then host your sites at any other country. Surfers will go nuts and of course, the material you have in your site is not allowed for people living in countries where such material is prohibited and it's MR. Wannaseeporn responsability to go any further
Conversions on the range of 50% guaranteed!
Of course, this would be an ideal scenario, but if there's a sense of divine justice, this will happen someday. And on that happy, shiny day, you'll raise your voices to name me as Semi-God http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Half kidding, half meaning

Harvey

[harvey]

And before the free host owners start complaining:

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">...then kill anybody close to you who owns a free host</font>

That was a joke, all the other things are true (to my belief), but at least you gotta agree that 99% of the pages on free hosts are illegal, so even law is on my side! http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

and
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(Gush, weed is destroying my brain)

harvey http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/cool.gif

[harvey]

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[Much0S]

How the fuck do you want to teach the hun a lesson? He's bigger than all of us combined http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

And why the fuck would the hun do anything? He's making his money, he isn't here for us, he's here for himself and he did it quite good.

The only way to break TGP's is to have lots of _fake_ TGP's.

Fake TGP's must have:
- A lot of trades with CJ sites
- Send a big percentage of their gallery listings to trades
- All have as much as possible the same content.

This way the surfer will get tired eventually. (Because surfers usually dont remember names the first 2-3 times they visit a site - this way they'll get confused again on where the content is, and that's what you want cuz confusion = irritation = money http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif)

If we all would like make 3 fake tgp sites, the total percentage of 'real' tgp's would be like 1% http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Finally we would be fucking the surfer again in stead of now he's fucking us http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Bill-]

Look put yourself if a surfers point of view. I can get a wank for free why should i waste my time grabing my CC to pay for a 2 buck trial!

[Alex From San Diego]

For everyone that says tgp traffic sucks, really doesn't know what they are talking about. The webmasters that say this lack marketing skills and are to lazy to figure it out. Why is it that I can average 4%-5% clickthru to a sponsor off of most of my galleries and then convert at an average of 1:50 with that traffic? Making galleries is a science. About 99% of the galleries I see just suck. There is no direction or message being delivered. A gallery isn't 15-20 pics with a banner and texlink. It needs to be thought of as a composition. You need to understand when to give pink and when not to. It varies from niche to niche and from sponsor to sponsor. To many webmasters think by using all these bullshit auto submitter programs and that promise your gallery will be listed on over 1200 tgps think the signups will just start rolling in. I got news for you, you are wrong. The only thing you will get is a nice BW bill. There are a few exceptions as there always is. I submit to 6 TGP's and can do 200-250 trials per gallery. I actually don't submit, but pay...
I don't worry about bandwidth, because it is all relative. It is part of doing business.

Giving free pics that are quality isn't what is wrong but rather what type of pics are the problem. This business has to many newbies that think they will get rich overnight....wrong again...It takes a little smarts and a some careful planning and analysis to be sucessful.