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PeepNTom
04-19-2002, 11:23 AM
how can they offer:<br /><br />$99 monthly ded. server<br />400gb transfer<br />celeron 1.3ghz<br />512mb ram<br />60gb 7200rpm hd<br />256 obc<br />100mhz fsb<br /><br />whats the catch? downtime 50% or what?<br /><br />anyone...?

PeepNTom
04-19-2002, 11:33 AM
or even 600gb transfer 1.7ghz pentium 4<br />for $129 mo.<br /><br />what am I missing here?

dantheman
04-19-2002, 12:05 PM
The main thing from what little i know about them and their services is that is not a managed box. You have a box plug in and its on you to get it up and keep it up. better know your server software well.<br />Pay speacial attention to any work that requires some tech support. could be costly:(<br /><br />on the other hand, their are some great managed hosting thats really affordable:)))<br /><br />my 2<br /><br />off the the races....weekend in talledaga...beer,steaks,women and fast cars....wohoo

Mr Woody
04-19-2002, 12:15 PM
Price:<br />I haven't heard about the second offer but the first is for real. Your setup fee is 436$ including 1 months bandwidth. Thereafter it's 105$ per months.<br /><br />Support:<br />Very limited... you will have to setup new domains and stuff yourself <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />Rgs Mr Woody

PeepNTom
04-19-2002, 01:28 PM
thanks guys......appreciated <img border="0" alt="[Nod]" title="" src="graemlins/nod.gif" />

Yo Adrian
04-19-2002, 03:09 PM
I know a couple of guys who have servers there, they swear by them. Of course without having some solid admin skillz I'd bet it would be a nightmare. Personally I'm honing my own admin skills so one fine day I can move into one of their boxes and save myself $550 mo. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

XP
04-19-2002, 03:39 PM
its impossible to give theese prices...

Rodent
04-19-2002, 05:00 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by XP:<br /><strong>its impossible to give theese prices...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Run the numbers, its not impossible. Simple oversubscription of their service since most of their 5000users dont even use 1/3 of their alloted bandwidth.

Rodent
04-19-2002, 05:01 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Rodent:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by XP:<br /><strong>its impossible to give theese prices...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Run the numbers, its not impossible. Simple oversubscription of their service since most of their 5000users dont even use 1/3 of their alloted bandwidth.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Rodent
04-19-2002, 05:02 PM
Arg damn why does that edit button not work, edit my shit to take my sig out if a mod reads this.<br /><br />Thanks

rowan
04-19-2002, 11:27 PM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Rodent:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by XP:<br /><strong>its impossible to give theese prices...</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Run the numbers, its not impossible. Simple oversubscription of their service since most of their 5000users dont even use 1/3 of their alloted bandwidth.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Also have a look at:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.rackshack.net/aboutus/networks.asp" target="_blank">http://www.rackshack.net/aboutus/networks.asp</a><br /><br />When I looked at it, the daily average outbound levels were...<br /><br />Time Warner: 225Mbit/sec<br />Verio: 250Mbit/sec<br />Savvis: 13Mbit/sec<br />ELI: 5Mbit/sec<br />Cogent: 336Mbit/sec<br /><br />As well as there being a shitload of aggregate outbound, you can see from the above that 40% goes via cogent. I don't know if the 5,000 customers is ev1's total, and rackshack's are a part of that, or just rackshacks customers - but with 5,000 customers it will cost them &lt;$2 per customer for the gigabit cogent link. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> Of course the other 60% of the bandwidth usage will cost more, but at those levels of traffic there's bound to be some significant economies of scale.<br /><br />Look at it another way...<br /><br />5,000 customers<br />800Mbit/sec total average<br />each customer uses 0.16Mbit/sec average<br />about 51Gb a month each.<br /><br />Disclaimer: These are just back of the envelope calcs and I have no idea how accurate the 5,000 figure is, or where it came from. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />Cheers.

Maistre
04-20-2002, 04:21 AM
$1.50 a gig overage will beef up their margins.

Atahualpa
04-20-2002, 05:18 AM
And they won't do dns for you, only for one domain per server, and extra IP's cost $ too

SexySites
04-20-2002, 09:59 AM
im not sure but i think you can setup dns on your own server using bind...<br /><br />laters,<br />Chris

XP
04-20-2002, 10:49 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Atahualpa:<br /><strong>And they won't do dns for you, only for one domain per server, and extra IP's cost $ too</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You can host unlimited domains in one IP