Dialer Program Statement

[josh99]

Hi Everyone,

It's been a frustrating time for everyone I'm sure, from reading the boards. We have gone through a few different dialers, and the results have been pretty good. But we will not be taking any USA minutes for the time being. We will wait to see the outcome of the verity courtcase first before we make a descion on the usa.

But, we will be using the dialer for all the rest of the countries. So, for the near future, we will be buying traffic, IN BULK, from whoever has it to sell. We will test out your traffic with you, and then on a one to one basis, decide what your traffic is worth and then prepay you for it. I think this is best for all. In the current climate of dialers, DEMAND payment for your minutes or traffic upfront, or else you run the risk of being owed money. Unfortunately this is the situation we are all in now. So we will step up to the plate and prepay you for your traffic. Anyone who is interested just email me at josh@dialerprogram.com

[WETDOG]

Well it's about time you made a statment :=)

At least you have the balls to do so :=)

So what you are saying is your buying traffic? i am sure you will be at war with the rest of the traffic brokers here as that subject is like a time~bomb waiting to happen.

So josh most guy using your dialers need to know if they should just drop them will be a question ..?

What rate will you be buying traffic? exit-per click, blind?

You have to be specific on that request..

No i am not mad at you josh just looking out for other webmasters is all, as i have seen a lot of sponsor programs just leave with the webmaster hanging. nothing personal..

Good luck on the " buying traffic" as it is a war on who pays most and pays.. on this board.


Wetdog...

[Jer]

I think Josh was talking about buying "non us dialer traffic", wasn't he ?

Well, I don't know. I'm off to the bed now.

[wuzent-me]

Hmmmmm...I thought you were just redesigning the site?

[magnatique]

those fuckin people that don't have the balls to post non anonymously really piss me off...

why don't you grow balls man? and if you're a woman, well, .... don,t hide http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

[WETDOG]

Yeah Mag.. we need some hot ones in here to KQQL down the Tension..

To many frustrated webmasters with a lot of bitching.. and some crappy 7500 ugly pics from Due..

Due post some "HOT" ones next time...lol

Wet..

[magnatique]

ok, you guys need a hot mamas? http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif a'ight http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
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[magnatique]

don't u just wanna ride that, Cowboy http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/laugh.gif http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/laugh.gif http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/smilies/laugh.gif

[diesel]

If you want to buy traffic....mdg me

icq: 15123215
diesel

[mnh]

I also sell my traffic, if you want contact me on my icq 56439665.

[sebb]

hmmm, sounds to me that they would have a tough time paying for what the traffic is worth if no US surfers dial-ip?

[arby]

Well, what a bargain. I send you traffic to your dialers and you pay me flat for it, getting the money from the minutes for yourself. I can see that you have been spending a great deal of time trying to figure out a way to turn the screw just one more time...

When are you all going to figure out that Josh has the best intentions of JOSH in mind only? Since the GIB thing went down he has offered only excuses and lies, damage control, and spin doctor talk. You can't spin this one anymore, pal.

If anyone out there still considers Josh a real player in the industry, consider the following:

1. Other dialer companies have been running just fine since the GIB incident. They PAY, they give tech support, they don't hide from you until they are ready to TELL you how things are going to be. Try out http://www.webmastercommerce.com as an example.

2. For over a month a dialer was promised to Josh's webmasters. For over a month there were constant "statements" (makes it sound important huh?) that said the dialer would be released soon. Nothing.

3. When the dialer FINALLY is released, a few days later the site goes down, and the only communication anyone has with Josh are his odd messages saying that the site is being redesigned, he is changing the way he pays, no more US minutes, blah blah blah.

Josh, you gave it your best shot. But lets face facts... you just aren't clever enough to screw us all over again. Just do us all a favor. Keep your little "statements" to yourself. Leave the page down. We couldn't fucking care less.

[mutley]

http://www.dialerprogram.com - why are the pages gone?

[arby]

Read the previous message. THAT is why they are gone.

[TIMMER]

arby-

Hey man, since you have so much anomosity and seem to be the in house expert here on Josh's woes, why don't you start your own dialer re-seller program?

Perhaps you'll soon realize that the FTC situation is so insane and beyond your control that it would be too risky of a proposition.....

I think that is what Josh is saying in the original post. Only a complete idiot would be in the game now, running USA minutes for $7 a minute. The FTC is gonna waltz right in a bust balls. If you don't get that by now, have your head examined.

I love this game, everyone is a know-it-all once the shit hits the fan. And then they turn around, backstab and talk smack about the guy who helped them make big easy cash.
Just shut the fuck up and realize that Josh is not stupid enough to continue risking everything at this point. If you really are such a fucking big shot, start your own re-seller program with US minutes and be ready to donate all of your assets to the Feds.

Ok, I've vented enough. I am just sick of the crybabies.

TIMMER

[Carneal]

nah not interested in pre pay right now but i would love to see my checks come in from last month witch i have yet to recieve, u owe me almost 2grand and i havnt seen a check sinse september

[bitz]

I agree timmer.

[bitz]

carneal, we will all get paid when the ftc thing is over. Probably not for awhile yet.

[arby]

Timmer -

The reason I don't start my own dialer program is that there are plenty of reputable dialer programs out there that aren't trying to ride the backs of the webmasters.

You don't have to be a know-it-all to realize when someone is incapable of following even the most BASIC tenets of doing business, all of which Josh has pissed away in favor of covering his own ass.

Being such an insider yourself, I would think you'd know the dialers running US minutes now have had their rates, and their disclaimers, reviewed by the FTC, and they have been given the green light to run based on those reviews.

It has nothing to do with dialers anyway. Or how much or how little was made. It has to do with failure to keep promises. Bullshitting people. Stringing them along with lies. That is what its about.

f you believe so strongly in Josh's business methods, if you really believe that it's okay to lie and cheat and play games with people's money, you are in good company with Josh anyway. Stick with him.. after all, two heads are better than one at fucking other people over.

Just remember that there is no honor among thieves, so you better get yours before HE does... lol

[arby]

Hey Carneal... how does it feel to know that he is using YOUR money to pay others up front for their traffic?

[magnatique]

there's no such thing as a green light from the ftc http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[josh99]

LOL, now I've heard it all. I guess we won't be buying traffic from Arby http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[magnatique]

well, that is, if you get to know who arby is.. 5 messages posted, 4 on this thread LOL... gotta love the non-balled critisizers...

[arby]

Why does it make a difference who I am? In 22 messages not a single person has actually attempted to defend Josh on merit. It can't be done. Rather, you have turned your attention and focus on me, a weak and childish way to divert attention from the issues at hand.

Of course, ask a child and get a child's answer. I should have known better. http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[mutley]

Originally posted by mutley:
http://www.dialerprogram.com - why are the pages gone?

That's my only question...

[magnatique]

arby, perhaps the reason why no one answered is cuz most of them already know josh
1- pays
2- is honest
3- runs a good program.

[arby]

Your point are interesting...

1. Pays
I think Carneal, and a host of others, would beg to differ.

2. Honest
Repeatedly breaking promises and deceving people about the state of his program, dialer, pay rates, etc. is far from honest.

3. Runs A Good Program
Ummmm.... what program? The page is still down.

On the bright side though, if you are fool enough to listen, Josh still has plenty of promises that he'd be glad to make. Just line up under the sucker sign. lol

[NickD]

Why dont reply to my icq messages Josh? I think everyone here deserve an explanation about what is going on with dialerprogram. I sent you several messages and you didnt answer any of them. Your site is down and you didnt even notice anyone of us. Im not advertising your dialer anymore but you still owe us money so I think its our right to request proper explanations.

Thank you
NickD

[WETDOG]

i did that same things before posting here:
#1 i did icq asking what is wrong with stats.
#2 i sent e-mail with same question.

## i posted here..

this is the last resort place to get any information.

wet

[magnatique]

uhm, arby, you might be right AND wrong..


maybe lately the service has went bad http://adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

and about the payments, he's still waiting for GIB I assume... hence the not paying..

but he surely should tell his people what's going on..

[eRock]

I WANT MY $2...!!!