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Unknown
10-16-2001, 06:10 PM
If you have an Internet Explorer version in another language than English, let me know what the favorite folder is named.

Spanish favorite folders are name "favoritos", German favorite folders are named "favoriten", Danish favorite folders are name "oversigt" etc and I need to know what they are named in more languages.

The standard AutoBookmark script only autobookmarks English browsers, so there's a need for this.

I appreciate any help. :)

battuss
10-16-2001, 06:33 PM
Favorieten - Dutch.

Unknown
10-16-2001, 06:35 PM
Thanks!

battuss
10-16-2001, 06:39 PM
np!

subog
10-16-2001, 06:52 PM
USA => Favorites

Unknown
10-16-2001, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by subog:
<STRONG>USA =&gt; Favorites</STRONG>

Loool! ;)

battuss
10-16-2001, 07:04 PM
England - favourites if im correct. (mind the extra u)

Muff
10-16-2001, 07:06 PM
English Canada Favourites.

:)

subog
10-16-2001, 07:06 PM
battuss, I think so tooo... cuz
USA: color = colour in England
honor = honour ...

bigsexvideos
10-16-2001, 07:09 PM
"favoris" is french
"favoritos" is portuguese
"favoriti" is italian

go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and translate whatever you want.

battuss
10-16-2001, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by subog:
<STRONG>battuss, I think so tooo... cuz
USA: color = colour in England
honor = honour ...</STRONG>

Yah, i was thinking the same.

Unknown
10-16-2001, 07:22 PM
Originally posted by bigsexvideos:
<STRONG>"favoris" is french
"favoritos" is portuguese
"favoriti" is italian

go to http://babelfish.altavista.com/ and translate whatever you want.</STRONG>

You are right, but... With translation service it doesn't always come out correct.

For example, if you translate into Danish you get "favoriter" (Favorites) while the correct name for the danish favorite folder is "oversigt" (Means almost the same as "chart")

SuperA
10-16-2001, 08:25 PM
In Swedish it is: Favoriter

:D

RaiDeN
10-17-2001, 01:21 AM
Belgium is the same as dutch.

also Favourieten.

but i dont evenknow if there is a belgium browser....think not.

allen
10-17-2001, 01:42 AM
Danish = Foretrukne

sonicpuke
10-17-2001, 01:44 AM
autobookmark=hack=virus

asshole ;(

Maybe people don't want you hacking thier shit ever think of that?

Unknown
10-17-2001, 01:59 AM
Originally posted by sonicpuke:
<STRONG>autobookmark=hack=virus

asshole ;(

Maybe people don't want you hacking thier shit ever think of that?</STRONG>

I was thinking like that too a while back.

Now I couldn't care less if the freeloaders get an autobookmark or two.

I ya wanna talk hack, then how does this sound;

A script that makes Windows pop an question-box on every startup (No windows or shit, it looks like a part of the system ;)) asking the user to download a dialer. :D I just finished that script. ;) Ask Muff if you don't believe me, he did the testing.

manga
10-17-2001, 02:02 AM
Well Muff, is it true? :D

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:04 AM
Ofcourse I can write what the box should say, how is this for a message?:

"Microsoft needs to install vital software in order to perform. Click OK to download the software now."

lol, nah, I wouldn't do that. :)

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:06 AM
Originally posted by manga:
<STRONG>Well Muff, is it true? :D</STRONG>

He's sleeping right now. (Who's to blame him, he had to test for me for hours) Ask him if you want when he wakes up though.

Zemun
10-17-2001, 02:37 AM
Serbian:
Favoriti

XP
10-17-2001, 02:42 AM
Unknown: Go fuck yourself!
Autobookmarking = Cheating, and your sites will be posted to "Possible Cheaters" board, if you use that shit!

also, its not working anymore. I have win98se and IE5 it doesn't work on me (before, it was working)
it only works on Win98 with IE4 haha

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by XP:
<STRONG>Unknown: Go fuck yourself!
Autobookmarking = Cheating, and your sites will be posted to "Possible Cheaters" board, if you use that shit!

also, its not working anymore. I have win98se and IE5 it doesn't work on me (before, it was working)
it only works on Win98 with IE4 haha</STRONG>

1. How is it cheating? WHAT exactly would I be cheating? I don't run any trading sites... Fool.

2. Once again... Fool. Download 5.5 and see.

subog
10-17-2001, 03:05 AM
All Fools

Hypo
10-17-2001, 03:55 AM
Unknown did you do that referrer redirect script? I really really need that!

Unknown
10-17-2001, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Hypo:
<STRONG>Unknown did you do that referrer redirect script? I really really need that!</STRONG>

Yeah... Some minor work left on it... Got caugh up on the AutoDialer thingy all night - lol.

Muff
10-17-2001, 04:12 AM
If I get another ICQ to use my computer as a guinnie pif Ill put you on ignore :)

Unknown
10-17-2001, 04:13 AM
Originally posted by Muff:
<STRONG>If I get another ICQ to use my computer as a guinnie pif Ill put you on ignore :)</STRONG>

Hehehe!

Hey remember that format script we talked about? Your gonna be the tester, oh yes you are! Hahaha, J/K.

trip
10-17-2001, 06:05 AM
Hey TrixScripts.com sells AutoBookmark for ALL the world...

he is the java master! ;)

just my 2 cents :cool:

Beaver
10-17-2001, 08:37 AM
My favourites folder is

c://windows/Fuck_You_And_your_dirty_autobookmark_Pice_of_shit

That means shove your fucking script up yer fucking ass you overgrown cocksucking penis :D

Unknown
10-17-2001, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by Beaver:
<STRONG>My favourites folder is

c://windows/Fuck_You_And_your_dirty_autobookmark_Pice_of_shit

That means shove your fucking script up yer fucking ass you overgrown cocksucking penis :D</STRONG>

Thank you! Now go tell your mother you used dirty words - lol.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by trip:
<STRONG>Hey TrixScripts.com sells AutoBookmark for ALL the world...

he is the java master! ;)

just my 2 cents :cool:</STRONG>

Oh yeah!? Tell me what scripts he (you ;)) have made.

sonicpuke
10-17-2001, 01:38 PM
Well I can't speak for trick scripts.

BUT as for myself I have written a few programs.

One in fact is MADE to catch hackers/autobookmarkers that attempt to submit this CRAP to my TGP sites.

I have also help to originate the use of javascript in CJ to create large tables of links. (I see many people stealing my code ;( In fact I have had to take some actions against some of these.

I've also written a tgp script.
Random url script using categories and a second version of this script which uses cookies so the urls aren't random but ordered.

I'd suggest you try writting a "real" program but hacking is obviously more your speed.

I suppose you invented the autobookmark script? Or are you just "optimizing" (Stealing) someone elses code?

Either way it's bullshit. Try being a real programmer instead of a hacker/virus spreader.

BTW if I EVER see your little virus to try and trick me into downloading your dialer on windows startup expect legal action. (Not just from me but the authorities too)

Pretty stupid of you to brag about it on this board.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:24 PM
Well I can't speak for trick scripts.
BUT as for myself I have written a few programs.

I have also help to originate the use of javascript in CJ to create large tables of links. (I see many people stealing my code ;( In fact I have had to take some actions against some of these.

I've also written a tgp script.
Random url script using categories and a second version of this script which uses cookies so the urls aren't random but ordered.

I do not question your integrity, I am sure you have written many fine scripts and programs. When did this become an issue?

I'd suggest you try writting a "real" program but hacking is obviously more your speed.

Try being a real programmer instead of a hacker/virus spreader.

I am not a hacker, have no intention of beeing one, and I do not spread virii.

Because I wrote something that can be used as a hack doesn't mean I use or spread it! Neither does it mean that I don't write real "honest" programs! Ask anybody who knows me if you question that. Haven't you ever done things just for the challenge and to see if it is doable?

One in fact is MADE to catch hackers/autobookmarkers that attempt to submit this CRAP to my TGP sites.

Well good then! People cheating their trading partners or TGP's should be caught! But again, this does not relate to me neither is it an issue, because as said I never intended to use the scripts to cheat any sites, heck, even use it at all! I won't even give them out to people intending to do so.

I suppose you invented the autobookmark script? Or are you just "optimizing" (Stealing) someone elses code?

No, I didn't write the original AutoBookmark script, and have no intention of stealing it's code. I am making a new improved one and the only thing that is similar is some ActiveX strings (The MS00-075 exploit in it's pure form) which is not owned by anyone.


Anyway, if you need any help with your anti-cheat program, feel free to contact me. :)

sonicpuke
10-17-2001, 02:43 PM
Well I was just replying to your challenge about what script trickscripts wrote.

I'm not really that impressed with trickscripts either but myself I have written some stuff. The autobookmark hack isn't really all that impressive to me. (A couple hours work tops)

I could "optimize" an autobookmark script I'm sure. I might even be able to come up with some new hack or cheat. Not really interested though. My main focus is on stopping this sort of thing from happening to my surfers.

You say your not a hacker but you brag about the hack you made to autodownload a dialer on windows start?

hmmm...

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by sonicpuke:
<STRONG>You say your not a hacker but you brag about the hack you made to autodownload a dialer on windows start?</STRONG>

True.. I DID brag, or atleast it can be interpreted that way. I am still not a hacker, because I only made it for fun. Do I use it? No.

Question answered.

run
10-17-2001, 02:48 PM
i'm with sonic here.

1) autobookmark update is definately a lame idea.
2) being lame is no suprise these days. Posting this kind of shit in public is a mistake.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:53 PM
Originally posted by run:
<STRONG>autobookmark update is definately a lame idea.</STRONG>

Depends on how you see it. Thinking practical it's an excellent idea, because fewer and fewer users can be infected by the ActiveX exploit, but with my update the procent share will be increased dramatically. On a non-english site my script will allow webmasters to autobookmark up to 90% more users.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>

Depends on how you see it. Thinking practical it's an excellent idea, because fewer and fewer users can be infected by the ActiveX exploit, but with my update the procent share will be increased dramatically. On a non-english site my script will allow webmasters to autobookmark up to 90% more users.</STRONG>

An excellent idea for the webmasters already using AutoBookmarking that is. Ofcourse it can be bad for the surfers - lol. ;)

run
10-17-2001, 03:00 PM
autobookmark itself is a piece of shit.
Now you just made another piece of shit that stinks more than the previous one.

what a fucking achievement!

salsbury
10-17-2001, 03:09 PM
you guys sure he means autobookmark as in the illegal kind, and not the "click here to bookmark" kind? 'cause why would he want translations for the illegal kind?

salsbury
10-17-2001, 03:12 PM
nevermind, i understand now.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by run:
<STRONG>autobookmark itself is a piece of shit.
Now you just made another piece of shit that stinks more than the previous one.

what a fucking achievement!</STRONG>

I hear you.

Many webmasters find it very helpful never-the-less and it is the webmasters I want to please, seeing that I am about to open a scriptsite - lol.

run
10-17-2001, 03:13 PM
dear salsbury
Im sure not a windows hacker or cracker, but i somehow suspect that he needs a name to generate a path to dump a file in.

just my lame thoughts :rolleyes:

Unknown
10-17-2001, 03:16 PM
Originally posted by salsbury:
<STRONG>you guys sure he means autobookmark as in the illegal kind, and not the "click here to bookmark" kind? 'cause why would he want translations for the illegal kind?</STRONG>

I don't think it is an illegal script to use, what about the things that really HARM - like IMG SRC? I don't see much done about that.

Anyway, I am not the one using it, I am making it for other webmasters, and they will have to take whatever consuequences for their own actions themselves.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 03:17 PM
Originally posted by run:
<STRONG>dear salsbury
Im sure not a windows hacker or cracker, but i somehow suspect that he needs a name to generate a path to dump a file in.

just my lame thoughts :rolleyes:</STRONG>

Yes, that is correct. I need the folder names in different languages so the paths are correct.

Machine
10-17-2001, 03:30 PM
Im working on an Autobookmarking script as well. What it does is it gives me the address of anyone who autobookmarks their shitty little sites, then directions to their house so I can beat their ass.

sonicpuke
10-17-2001, 03:35 PM
Harm?

Are you really worried about harm?

When a child ends up at a porn site because of your autobookmark I guess that wont count as harm?

Or I guess you will try and shift the blame to the parent?

I guess parents will now have to stop looking at porn sites (With no children around) or face your autobookmark script and expose thier kids to it. (Without even knowing in most cases since you don't TELL THEM your adding porn bookmarks)

Let's not talk about what is harm.

BTW I don't IMG SRC either. If I did though I would at least know WHO I was harming. You will be spreading harm to who knows how many children.

I porn will have to go out of bussiness so kids wont get exposed?

Better yet reformat your harddrive and forget about this autobookmarking and auto dialer download.

Won't it just be great when a kid downloads porn using your auto dialer downloader and not only gets exposed to porn but possibly jacks up his parents phone bill (Taking food/medicine away from that child)

Wow what a great idea!!!

Again let's not talk about harm.
Let's also not act like your helping people somehow by NOT img src'ing people.

Your not helping. It's obvious your set instead on hurting with your hacks. (And profiting from it)

Supplying it is actually worse than using it in my oppinion. It will cause more damage that way.

God knows the net just wouldn't be the same without people being forced to bookmark porn.

If your such a programmer why not come up with something new and inovative instead of "improving" viruses. (And it IS a virus. My virus checker catches it EVERY time as a virus)

Unknown
10-17-2001, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by Machine:
<STRONG>Im working on an Autobookmarking script as well. What it does is it gives me the address of anyone who autobookmarks their shitty little sites, then directions to their house so I can beat their ass.</STRONG>

lol! You know what, I could write something like that for those who may want it. It could search sites as a spider and mail whois info of whoever have AutoBookmark code back to any mail address - lol. I don't know if my customers would like it, but I am just mentioned it is quite possible to make such a script. ;)

Unknown
10-17-2001, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by sonicpuke:
<STRONG>Harm?

Are you really worried about harm?

When a child ends up at a porn site because of your autobookmark I guess that wont count as harm?

Or I guess you will try and shift the blame to the parent?

I guess parents will now have to stop looking at porn sites (With no children around) or face your autobookmark script and expose thier kids to it. (Without even knowing in most cases since you don't TELL THEM your adding porn bookmarks)

Let's not talk about what is harm.

BTW I don't IMG SRC either. If I did though I would at least know WHO I was harming. You will be spreading harm to who knows how many children.

I porn will have to go out of bussiness so kids wont get exposed?

Better yet reformat your harddrive and forget about this autobookmarking and auto dialer download.

Won't it just be great when a kid downloads porn using your auto dialer downloader and not only gets exposed to porn but possibly jacks up his parents phone bill (Taking food/medicine away from that child)

Wow what a great idea!!!

Again let's not talk about harm.
Let's also not act like your helping people somehow by NOT img src'ing people.

Your not helping. It's obvious your set instead on hurting with your hacks. (And profiting from it)

Supplying it is actually worse than using it in my oppinion. It will cause more damage that way.

God knows the net just wouldn't be the same without people being forced to bookmark porn.

If your such a programmer why not come up with something new and inovative instead of "improving" viruses. (And it IS a virus. My virus checker catches it EVERY time as a virus)</STRONG>

You are right BUT, who said anything about porn!? Ofcourse the users may use it that way, but my scriptsite will be mainly for mainstream webmasters, it does not sircle around the fucking porn business. Just because I talk with you nice guys here on an adult BBS does not mean that all my work must have something to do with porn.

Furthermore, I have not said that I am "such a programmer". I don't claim ANY status, I just write programs/scripts for fun or because I find it useful and let people believe what ever they want to believe about it.

Unknown
10-17-2001, 04:06 PM
Also, it's not like I am going to fucking revolutionise the adult industry with bad scripts right and left, (Life-time) membership for access to the scripts will be fairly expensive and users will be provided with tools for encryption of the scripts at their convenience.

Furthermore, ALL users will also be heavily warned about possible consuequences by using some of the scripts. (Like the fact that children can be exposed to content aimed at adults, and that some of the auto scripts may be deemed illegal in the future)

If you want to you can work with me on the warning and user agreement if you feel that such action may better the situation.

1407
10-17-2001, 04:11 PM
Er du andet end en minimal amatør der ikke er istand til at sælge sit lort, andet ved at at fucke ved at surferne totalt

Du er bare en nu narhat!

GFY

IF YOU FUCK THIS INDUSTRI, YOU ARE FUCKING THE REST OF US....

lame looser

run
10-17-2001, 04:12 PM
to me it looks like unknown is trying to pull the head out of the shit he's made :)

see, you can do what you like and no one is gonna stop you. But as i said you gotta watch what you post on awi :D

Unknown
10-17-2001, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by 1407:
<STRONG>Er du andet end en minimal amatør der ikke er istand til at sælge sit lort, andet ved at at fucke ved at surferne totalt

Du er bare en nu narhat!

GFY

IF YOU FUCK THIS INDUSTRI, YOU ARE FUCKING THE REST OF US....

lame looser</STRONG>

JEG er ike den som fucker surfere, jeg bare laver scripts - lol.

And what did I just say? My little scriptsite won't fuck over any adult business.

Go bash on Asher who has done this for YEARS if you really feel so bad about this.

1407
10-17-2001, 04:23 PM
Ohhh
you are not the on fucking the surfer
you are JUST making the scrip

Guess it says it all

Unknown
10-17-2001, 04:28 PM
Look, this is getting absurd, I have tried to discuss this with you in a mature manner, but it seems we are not getting anywhere.

I will launch the scriptsite anyways, and if you chose to turn that into something negative just because the fact that SOME of the scripts can be abused, then that's your choice.

Let me assure you that there is plenty people around here seeing this as a positive thing, atleast judging by the amount of interested and supportive webmasters I get contacted by on ICQ. :)

Bye for now. :)

Mole
10-18-2001, 12:29 AM
His script might be used in a "good" or "bad" way. That all depends on the person who's gonna use it.

Like almost everything else in the world can be abused as well.

As he said, it's not necessary porn sites which will use it. Other normal site might use it too.

Comparing it with that a child might get access to porn sites because of autobookmark is kinda lame. There's so many other ways a child might accidentally hit a porn site anyway. Simply try some search key word on any search engine and you'll most likely get some hits to porn site doorways. Porn is everywhere on the net and it's very easy to accidentally stumble upon a site while using the 'net.

A lot of the tricks we use to shuffle our traffic around like exit popups, blind clicks, talking banners, etc., aren't exactly "ethical" anyway. There's so much other shitty tricks in the porn biz. I think most of the tricks used in the mainstream sites all were pioneered in porn biz.

Hell, I think perhaps we all should quit the porn business, because we might harm children out there.

Catalinas
10-18-2001, 12:49 AM
Looks like alot of backsliding to me from Unknown.

I don't believe there is a 'good' use for autobookmarking, if your site is good, you don't need it. Period. I have had the misfortune of buying two of the Trix scripts in the past and there was always a catch. I would love it if he never made another script. Timed pop up, autobookmark, hidden timed pop up.. all the things that piss us off now.

If I were a guy surfing porn and not wanting my wife to know about it, well the fucking autobookmark just gave it away didn't it? Idiots. Who the hell do you think pays our bills?

Idiots!

It's not going to be used for porn..yeah right. Whatever.

Damn this stuff about not taking responsibility for the products you make is really getting to me. I suppose you believe the password sites when they say they don't post the stolen password for people to acutally use them, because that would be wrong....

sonicpuke
10-18-2001, 01:18 AM
There is no "good" use for hacking into someones computer settings and mucking around with stuff sorry to say.

Autobookmarking will probabbly be outlawed by the time non porn sites start using it so please give me break. I doubt non porn people are lining up for this hack.

Also there is this.
Mcaffee considers this a VIRUS whether you like it or not (Along with other virus scanners too. In fact my datafellows virus scanner caught one yesterday)

If surfers come through one of my sites and are sent by clicking a link that a site that triggers thier virus scanner what do you think they are thinking?
Do they check this board to know that unknown doesn't consider it a virus?
Hell no. They get scared.
They think that I SENT THEM TO A VIRUS.
They think this person who posted is trying to virus them.
They think that porn sites are full of viruses.

Ah well I guess it doesn't matter as long as YOU make a buck or 2 off it eh?

And people wonder why porn is harder and harder to sell. They think (Or maybe the know) that we will do ANYTHING for a buck including spreading viruses.

I got an email from a surfer just today complaining about a "virus" link on my site.

;(

Zyber [SharkSkills.com]
10-18-2001, 01:56 AM
Some people really make me puke...
Don't care about this industry :mad:

manga
10-18-2001, 02:05 AM
I have to agree that things like the autobookmark scripts are bad for business. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel sorry for the surfer, and I want his money as much as anyone else. I could care less if the surfer is annoyed by porn tactics. Tough.

This sort of thing is bad because it crosses a line, and it gives the whole Internet a bad name. It doesn't matter if it's used on a porn or straight site. What things like this do is make surfers distrust websites, and that is bad for business. If there is not some level of trust, the surfer will not use his credit card, and if that happens, we all make no money.

Unfortunately, once you let the Genie out of the bottle....

toker
10-18-2001, 02:40 AM
Fuck that fuck cheaters fuck anyone who would even think of using this shit...

Its just like if i sold nuclear missles i just made them if they are used to kill people well heck i didnt make them to kill..

Get your head out your ass you know dam well your building this shit to be a l33t code kiddy who can brag of his great acheavments. I see you as a lame shit who is doing his part to make this biz even worse then it already is.

Fuck You and you lame Exploits :mad:!

XP
10-18-2001, 02:54 AM
sonicpuke is absolutely right!
unknown: if you'll use that shit in non-adult business, why you don't ask to non-adult webmasters ?!
moron.

Dawgy
10-18-2001, 02:59 AM
i dont see what the issue is here.

there is absolutely NO reason why you should have an autobookmark or autohomepage or autoanything script. you have no right to modify someone elses browser settings without their consent. if your site sucks so bad that you have to force it on people, maybe you need to find another line of work.

oh but wait, youre just a programmer. you're not actually gonna USE the script.

ok fine... so how would you feel if every site you went to added a bookmark? what if i reset your homepage to fathairygaypedophiles.com. i guess that wouldnt bother you a bit huh? bullshit, you'd fucking hate it and you know it. you'd bash the people who wrote the scripts just as much as you would the ones who used it.

it'll come back on you one day man. doesnt matter if you use it or not. its like writing a virus and posting it on the web for "educational purposes". some 12 year old gets that virus and takes out NASDAQ, who do you think is gonna go to jail? not the 12 year old. the guy who wrote the virus. EVEN THOUGH he never used it.

your shit may not be a virus but it does violate people's rights, and that just isnt something you wanna do in this country. not right now.

there's just too many issues involved, you're playing with fire bro.

woof.

Unknown
10-18-2001, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by XP:
<STRONG>why you don't ask to non-adult webmasters ?!</STRONG>

Heh, I have not asked anyone to use it. I only asked for translations of a word, and some of you wanted to start a fight.

Unknown
10-18-2001, 02:20 PM
Originally posted by Dawgy:
<STRONG>i dont see what the issue is here.

there is absolutely NO reason why you should have an autobookmark or autohomepage or autoanything script. you have no right to modify someone elses browser settings without their consent. if your site sucks so bad that you have to force it on people, maybe you need to find another line of work.

oh but wait, youre just a programmer. you're not actually gonna USE the script.

ok fine... so how would you feel if every site you went to added a bookmark? what if i reset your homepage to fathairygaypedophiles.com. i guess that wouldnt bother you a bit huh? bullshit, you'd fucking hate it and you know it. you'd bash the people who wrote the scripts just as much as you would the ones who used it.

it'll come back on you one day man. doesnt matter if you use it or not. its like writing a virus and posting it on the web for "educational purposes". some 12 year old gets that virus and takes out NASDAQ, who do you think is gonna go to jail? not the 12 year old. the guy who wrote the virus. EVEN THOUGH he never used it.

your shit may not be a virus but it does violate people's rights, and that just isnt something you wanna do in this country. not right now.

there's just too many issues involved, you're playing with fire bro.

woof.</STRONG>

You are right on some points, I wouldn't like it if someone did it to me (When my browser was vurneable it was done to me all the time in fact) and maybe I am playing with fire, but people who have done it before me (Asher for instance, a nice guy BTW) are doing fine... I don't see you jumping all over these guys. Maybe you are afraid of them or maybe you are just a bunch of hypocrits, who knows.

sonicpuke
10-18-2001, 05:44 PM
Well if asher was posting here about this stuff I would say the same thing myself.

I don't think he's a "nice guy" though.

I'm sure you see it differently though.

My surfers that write me complaining that I sent them to a virus don't think it's nice and I don't either since many surfers don't write but just flee my "virus" site even though I don't use viruses.

Sorry you can't see the light on this. There is plenty of money out here and plenty of ways to make it. Sure you can make more by hacking people computers.

Why stop with this though. Why not just hack in and get thier CC# directly?

If it makes money it's legit right?

toker
10-18-2001, 07:57 PM
Actually i flamed the shit out of another asshole not to long ago about providing the same shit..

I dont give a fuck if you were as big in this biz as hun you dont set the rules its a majority thing weather you like it or not. Take a look at your sponsors TOS and i bet you wont be getting paid when i catch you using this shit.

I will even make it a point to email sponsors of any site i find using this shit and demand they take action on their end. I will also send a note to the FTC once i find ou selling this shit for monitary value and we will see what they do about it.

Yea other guys gave it for a % of the traffic but they werent stupid to charge $$$ from webmasters for something they basically ripped from another site. You however are a fuckin nerd to even think about it after all the sites that take a heavy stand against this shit.

I understand though ive met little nerd boys with no friends who want to build a trojan to be kewl and liked by the kevin wanabees on AOL and IRC. Thats all you are is a code kid who cant even think of something original that could do the industry some good.

You look at the man SonicPuke he writes shit that holds some of the biggest sites togeather and looks for ways to make shit better not worse. Now go sit in a corner untill our ready to stop this nonsence or give me some good head to make it worth another reply to your bullshit post..

Unknown
10-18-2001, 09:01 PM
Actually i flamed the shit out of another asshole not to long ago about providing the same shit..

I dont give a fuck if you were as big in this biz as hun you dont set the rules its a majority thing weather you like it or not. Take a look at your sponsors TOS and i bet you wont be getting paid when i catch you using this shit.

I will even make it a point to email sponsors of any site i find using this shit and demand they take action on their end. I will also send a note to the FTC once i find ou selling this shit for monitary value and we will see what they do about it.

Yea other guys gave it for a % of the traffic but they werent stupid to charge $$$ from webmasters for something they basically ripped from another site. You however are a fuckin nerd to even think about it after all the sites that take a heavy stand against this shit.


"this shit" - Would you like to define that? You don't even know what scripts I am offering and yet you talk big about what they are and what you'll do to users of them. That's the kind of person you are. Just because there's one script in there that can be abused doesn't mean there's not general useful "good" webmaster scripts too. But you can't understand things like that can you?

As far as Monitary Value and FTC comments concerns, that really shows how dumb you are. If I sold ONLY the Opt. AutoBookmark script and nothing else there still couldn't be a case against me based on monitary value. There's plenty people around that find my scripts valuable and my site contain a large collection of unique and useful webmaster scripts, so the FTC wouldn't do anything unless they wanted to shut down every scriptsite on the net.

You are jumping to conclusions without having anything to base it on and then you present it as hard facts.


You look at the man SonicPuke he writes shit that holds some of the biggest sites togeather and looks for ways to make shit better not worse.


And what makes you think I don't? I have written "good" "shit" for years, and just because I write a script now that can be abused doesn't give you the right to imply anything else.


I understand though ive met little nerd boys with no friends who want to build a trojan to be kewl and liked by the kevin wanabees on AOL and IRC. Thats all you are is a code kid who cant even think of something original that could do the industry some good.


Again you are jumping to conclusions without having anything to base on and then you present it as hard facts. You are the nerdie hacker wannabe in here if any and everybody who knows you, have talked to you and have seen pics of you agree. I know you better than you think, DJ l337 wannabe.

I go to school and have a healthy social life with friends and a girlfriend but you sit by your computer collecting virii and cracks in folders and play bigshot hacker. I have a screenshot of that folder of yours you presented (With pride even. How cool! Not!) over ICQ once.


Now go sit in a corner untill our ready to stop this nonsence or give me some good head to make it worth another reply to your bullshit post..


Then just stop replying you moron! I have never asked or wanted you to reply, your opinions means shit to me after what you have managed to present here in the last two days.

Unknown
10-18-2001, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by sonicpuke:
<STRONG>Well if asher was posting here about this stuff I would say the same thing myself.

I don't think he's a "nice guy" though.

I'm sure you see it differently though.

My surfers that write me complaining that I sent them to a virus don't think it's nice and I don't either since many surfers don't write but just flee my "virus" site even though I don't use viruses.

Sorry you can't see the light on this. There is plenty of money out here and plenty of ways to make it. Sure you can make more by hacking people computers.

Why stop with this though. Why not just hack in and get thier CC# directly?

If it makes money it's legit right?</STRONG>

Well I think Asher is a nice guy and am sorry you don't, but you haven't even talked to him have you? I don't judge people by what they appear as, rather I try to get to know them before I talk about them.

As far as the rest concerns, it's all based on the idea that I am a hacker and since I am not there's no need for me to comment it.

Beaver
10-18-2001, 09:18 PM
I wish I had a script to throw you in prison.
Your just a cock sucking asshole you know full well that what your doing is wrong but you don't care because your just another selfish cheating adult webmonster who doesn't give a flying fuck about anybody else.
Your kind just make me wanna puke FUCK YOU and FUCK your script the sooner there are laws available to hammer cunts like you the better it will be for the net.

Unknown
10-18-2001, 09:42 PM
Originally posted by Beaver:
<STRONG>I wish I had a script to throw you in prison.
Your just a cock sucking asshole you know full well that what your doing is wrong but you don't care because your just another selfish cheating adult webmonster who doesn't give a flying fuck about anybody else.
Your kind just make me wanna puke FUCK YOU and FUCK your script the sooner there are laws available to hammer cunts like you the better it will be for the net.</STRONG>

Thank you for your inaults. They didn't hurt at all, rather they gave me a good laugh. :)

Next time you will want to base insults on facts you can use to your advantage rather than just throwing out words like "cunt, "fucker", "cock-sucker" and so forth, assuming you want to hurt your opponent ofcourse.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:34 AM
Hey Toker, nice stats. :D

[hack proof removed]

[ 19 October 2001: Message edited by: magnatique ]

Dawgy
10-19-2001, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>Hey Toker, nice stats. :D
</STRONG>


am i missing something? lolita-boys.com is CP ... so... if this is your site, youre incredibly stupid for posting this image... if its toker's site... he has some explaining to do... BUT so do you, for hacking into his stats...

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>Hey Toker, nice stats. :D
</STRONG>

Or should I say Will Robinson? That's what you like to call yourself I understand - lol. (Will Robinson = Boy from the movie Lost In Space)

WildTeen Errorlogs.

WARNING WILL ROBINSON.......................................... .
I encountered the following errors while processing the accounts
Unable to open file BOOKMARK.dat for reading
9:33 PM 10.18.2001
cjproadmin script
WARNING WILL ROBINSON.......................................... .
I encountered the following errors while processing the accounts
Unable to open file CASH.DIRTYLOLITA.NET.dat for reading
9:33 PM 10.18.2001
cjproadmin script
WARNING WILL ROBINSON.......................................... .
I encountered the following errors while processing the accounts
Unable to open file VIDEOLOLITA.COM.dat for reading
9:33 PM 10.18.2001
cjproadmin script
WARNING WILL ROBINSON.......................................... .
I encountered the following errors while processing the accounts
Unable to open file SALACIOUSENTERTAINMENT.COM.dat for reading
9:33 PM 10.18.2001
cjproadmin script


Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. ;)

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by Dawgy:
<STRONG>


am i missing something? lolita-boys.com is CP ... so... if this is your site, youre incredibly stupid for posting this image... if its toker's site... he has some explaining to do... BUT so do you, for hacking into his stats...</STRONG>

It's Tokers site, and I did not hack it.

toker
10-19-2001, 10:35 AM
Ok mother fucker now you just admitted some good shit here buddy because #1 thats a celeb site i threw up ages ago and i no longer even maintain or run it. Funny thing here how you got that screencap but aparently you been hacking into my shit and i will be lookin to see what action i will take for it.

Now that lolita boys shit is not even in the database somone added that shit to set me up and those who know me know i dont play that crap. Secondly why would i trade a CP site with a celeb sites you fuckin dork.

Lastly that Will Robinson shit is what Banzi coded when he made the CJPro script thats not my fucking name. You think i have anything to hide my name is on my email and my domains asswipe. Now you tell me if i was into CP bullshit would i put my real fuckin info on my domains..

Good fuckin try and this shit about ICQ i cant transfer files over ICQ so thats a good one too. Why cant i simple im on a network and i have very limited ports open. All transfres i do are via web or FTP ask my clients they can tell you.

Now you need to be very worried because you admitted you hacked in my site or had somone do it by posting stats that are password protected.. So my wanabee hacker you think your badd ass ill give you my fuckin address and you come show me how big you are bitch.

Matter fact im glad you posted that because i forgot that site was still there and now i will be sure to delete it....

Now how did you get those stats before i contact the FBI??

Im not gonna play a game with you hacking is a federal crime and i will be contacting the FBI about it later so i hope you have a good excuse on how you obtained that screencap..

Unknown
10-19-2001, 10:59 AM
You obviously don't know who I am yet. You fucking GAVE me the password you retard! WOW, hardcore hacking! Yeah right! You gave me the password some months ago, and I don't see what offense it possibly could be to log myself in and take a screenshot now later.

And the virii folder screenshot thing... You sent it as e-mail because file transfer wouldn't work! I have the e-mail with headers and all here somewhere! I knew it would come in handy sometime, because I know your dirty, sleazy type! Hah! What, did you think I would come in here and talk about what you have done et cetera without beeing backed up by evidence so you can use that to your advantage? Hell no! I can backup everything I've said with logs and e-mails.

Stop and think before you post.

magnatique
10-19-2001, 11:07 AM
anybody wondering why the date is 10.10 on there? :)

removing unknown's hack proof from his post lol :)

Unknown
10-19-2001, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by magnatique:
<STRONG>anybody wondering why the date is 10.10 on there? :)

removing unknown's hack proof from his post lol :)</STRONG>

lol, what are you talking about...

I found the e-mails with the screenshots by the way. Now, please THINK before you trust Toker's word again!

http://wtstats.jeeran.com/collection.gif

http://wtstats.jeeran.com/collection1.gif

Here's the ICQ log for Toker, we just spoked:


--------------------------------------
ICQ History Log For:
106673404 Toker
Started on Fri Oct 19 18:37:31 2001
--------------------------------------
Unknown 19.10.01 18:04 I need to know your e-mail address please.

Toker 19.10.01 18:04 no you dont

Unknown 19.10.01 18:04 Yes I do, I have to search my inbox for your
e-mail.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:04 Where you sent the stupid screenshot thing.

Toker 19.10.01 18:05 send to webmaster@bizfrontier.net

Toker 19.10.01 18:05 and who gave you access to my site?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:05 That's not the one you've been using normally the
last couple of months?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:05 Yourself.

Toker 19.10.01 18:05 the only exploits i have are used for making
fixes period

Toker 19.10.01 18:06 not my email hmm interesting the only pop server
i have

Unknown 19.10.01 18:06 I don't remember exaxctly, but it was a folder
with categorized exploit, virii and hacks/trojans
and some stuff. I will find out exactly what is
was shortly though.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:06 Yes, but you used to use somethingh different in
front of your e-mail instead of webmaster@

Toker 19.10.01 18:07 uh well yes i have a CD that has cracks codes and
other shit

Toker 19.10.01 18:07 anything at bizfrontier.net goes to me

Toker 19.10.01 18:07 so who have you this info?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:07 If it's only cracks and nothing shady hackertype
of things I don't see a problem. Elsewise I need
to post the evidence because YOU call ME a
hacker.

Toker 19.10.01 18:08 i have not obtained anyting illegally and the CD
your refering to comes from internet shows they
sell the latest shit for ITs to test on their
systems every year

Unknown 19.10.01 18:08 You told me you also had collected manually from
the net

Unknown 19.10.01 18:08 I remember you had some CDs.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:08 But that's only one side of it.

Toker 19.10.01 18:08 yea i have things that appear in my email or i
get on IRC

Toker 19.10.01 18:09 but like i said i work on fixes

Unknown 19.10.01 18:09 Ok. But you have to understand that if that
screenshot prooves anything hackerlike, I will
have to post it in order to defend myself.

Toker 19.10.01 18:09 and you can see on AWI when the latest epidemic
hit i was the first to get a fix for the
community

Unknown 19.10.01 18:10 Yeah, we figured out the passwords for almost ll
the members - lol

Unknown 19.10.01 18:10 Uhm, that was some weeks ago. Well, could you
please tlell me what e-mail you used the last
months?

Toker 19.10.01 18:10 why would you need it?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:11 In order to search the inbox for e-mails from you
and find the one with the screenshot.

Toker 19.10.01 18:11 um and you think an image of a CD with cracks is
going to get me in shit?

Toker 19.10.01 18:12 search for bizfrontier.net

Unknown 19.10.01 18:12 No, but just proove that you are beeing a
hypocrit when you call me a hacker nerd etc.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:13 Found it! Thanks!

Unknown 19.10.01 18:13 F:Warez\software is the path to the folde.r

Unknown 19.10.01 18:13 I believe there were something else too

Unknown 19.10.01 18:14 I found the right one!

Unknown 19.10.01 18:14 Worms...

Toker 19.10.01 18:14 yep thats on the CD

Toker 19.10.01 18:14 and its totally legal to have not to use for
illegal purposes

Unknown 19.10.01 18:14 F:\Warez\software\viruses-exploits\

Unknown 19.10.01 18:14 That's not the point

Toker 19.10.01 18:14 yep thats one of my CD drives

Unknown 19.10.01 18:14 I am only doing this to defend my word.

Toker 19.10.01 18:15 whats the point i work to protect myself and
others and im a criminal like you who hacked my
shit?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:15 I didn't hack. Do I need to dig up evidence for
that too!!?

Toker 19.10.01 18:15 no i dont think so and you will have a very hard
time makin me look like the bad guy when i have
not done anything to anyone

Toker 19.10.01 18:15 ow now i hacked really?

Toker 19.10.01 18:16 i used leet UBB exploits to take over the adult
industry and hold them to my mercy

Unknown 19.10.01 18:16 I don't. But you lied about me and lied about my
word and you lied about yourself, now I have the
option to correct that simply by digging up
evidence to prove my word and that's what count.

Toker 19.10.01 18:17 So who are you and where did you get theses
emails?

Toker 19.10.01 18:17 and no matter what you say i have evidence
recorded that once sent to the FBI and after Tim
provides me your IP will lead to full criminal
prosicution

Unknown 19.10.01 18:17 You aren't the sharpest pencil in the box are
you? lol

I used to know you, you used to be a good friend.

Toker 19.10.01 18:18 fact is i may have the capability to do bad
things but i dont

Toker 19.10.01 18:18 if you knew how many people are on my ICQ and i
deal with remember i dont only work in adult shit
you would understand

Toker 19.10.01 18:19 you may think im dumb but you got me all wrong i
would never be stupid to break into somones shit
then post it on a public board

Unknown 19.10.01 18:19 If you blame the size of your contact list then
fine. The point is that we used to talk and
that's when you gave me info and e-mails.

Toker 19.10.01 18:20 and the emails are not illegal hacking is

Toker 19.10.01 18:20 i never gave you info about CP or logins to my
site

Unknown 19.10.01 18:21 Well, that's your oppinion anyway. I am sorry it
turned out this way. Bye.

Toker 19.10.01 18:21 yep me too because now i have to gather info
about you and waste my time to bring to the feds
and prosicute you

Unknown 19.10.01 18:22 lol - go ahead.

Toker 19.10.01 18:22 maybe if you knew anything about me you would
know i worked in the PI/Protection field for
quite a long time and have family in law
enforcment

Toker 19.10.01 18:23 matter fact you can call for referance
www.ffps.com (http://www.ffps.com)

Unknown 19.10.01 18:23 I know, you have a brother working as a cop and a
lawyer uncle or something .

Toker 19.10.01 18:23 so you dont know who your fucking with little boy

Unknown 19.10.01 18:23 I couldn't care less though, I can prove my case
in any court, you gave me that password and I can
prove it just like I did with the screenshot
thing.

Toker 19.10.01 18:24 i gave you that password when?

Toker 19.10.01 18:24 and why would i give you my login?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:24 Some months ago. I kept a backup just in case.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:24 I don't remember, I am going to find out the full
story now.

Toker 19.10.01 18:24 and i told you here is my password use it
whenever you can to put CP links oon my site and
post screencaps

Unknown 19.10.01 18:25 No.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:25 WTF are you talking about posting CP links, I
only took a screenie.

Toker 19.10.01 18:25 so then even if i gave you my login which i dont
know why i would it would give you a right to go
in and do what you wish

Toker 19.10.01 18:26 funny then because the site was deleted before i
got in

Toker 19.10.01 18:26 let me see i have access to about 15 cliebts
servers so i should go in and steal their traffic
and talk shit about them

Toker 19.10.01 18:27 no they give me access to setup a site or
maintain a site not to make changes to their shit
or steal data

Toker 19.10.01 18:27 what name did you go by in the past BTW?

Unknown 19.10.01 18:28 Sheesh we'll talk later, I don't want to sit here
taking accusations all day. I backup everything
and will proove my innocence.

Toker 19.10.01 18:28 you go posting more lies and it will bite you in
the ass

Unknown 19.10.01 18:30 lol - what "more lies", I have evidence and will
not hesitate to use it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to upload the
screenshots.

Toker 19.10.01 18:31 go ahead i already had the last one deleted

Unknown 19.10.01 18:31 I don't see why they would delete the next ones,
all they do is saving my honor from your sleazy
lies.

Toker 19.10.01 18:31 and like i said i can back up 100% so you start
shit and i will take action

Toker 19.10.01 18:32 they will be doing more then that when tim comes
online ;0)

Toker 19.10.01 18:34 O and BTW i advised them about you having users
passwords from AWI so dont forget that statement
which i too will use against you

Unknown 19.10.01 18:34 Lol I already told Tim a long time ago, and
advised him about the bug.

Toker 19.10.01 18:35 thats ok the users will love to hear about your
bug tracking on there accounts

Toker 19.10.01 18:35 good job keep it up mr hacker boy

Unknown 19.10.01 18:35 I am not a hacker, you are the one best suited
for such a category.

Toker 19.10.01 18:35 the more you try to start shit i will bring more
shit on you

Toker 19.10.01 18:35 no thats your view

Toker 19.10.01 18:36 i dont and never have used my shit for evil
purposes

Unknown 19.10.01 18:36 Yeah, fine. We'll talk later if you absolutly
have to. I don't want though. All your coming
with are lies and insults.

Toker 19.10.01 18:36 matter fact ill give you the number if you want
to buy some CDs haha

Toker 19.10.01 18:36 no your tring to make me look like a pedo

Unknown 19.10.01 18:37 Bye. I don't want to talk to your sleazy lying
self anymore, would you please excuse me?

Unknown
10-19-2001, 11:38 AM
Please study this case by reading all the info before you start judging any of us.

toker
10-19-2001, 11:42 AM
Ok since he wants to post and edited version of our conversation here is the whole story as i told him i would post the entire truth..

Not to mention he admits to having access to most all AWI logins.. So heres the whole unedited story for all to see..

--------------------------------------
ICQ History Log For:
131599392 Unknown
Started on Fri Oct 19 12:45:32 2001
--------------------------------------
Unknown 10/19/01 12:05 PM I need to know your e-mail address please.

Toker 10/19/01 12:05 PM no you dont

Unknown 10/19/01 12:05 PM Yes I do, I have to search my inbox for your
e-mail.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:05 PM Where you sent the stupid screenshot thing.

Toker 10/19/01 12:06 PM send to webmaster@bizfrontier.net

Toker 10/19/01 12:06 PM and who gave you access to my site?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:06 PM That's not the one you've been using normally
the last couple of months?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:06 PM Yourself.

Toker 10/19/01 12:06 PM the only exploits i have are used for making
fixes period

Toker 10/19/01 12:07 PM not my email hmm interesting the only pop
server i have

Unknown 10/19/01 12:07 PM I don't remember exaxctly, but it was a folder
with categorized exploit, virii and
hacks/trojans and some stuff. I will find out
exactly what is was shortly though.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:07 PM Yes, but you used to use somethingh different
in front of your e-mail instead of webmaster@

Toker 10/19/01 12:08 PM uh well yes i have a CD that has cracks codes
and other shit

Toker 10/19/01 12:08 PM anything at bizfrontier.net goes to me

Toker 10/19/01 12:08 PM so who have you this info?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:08 PM If it's only cracks and nothing shady
hackertype of things I don't see a problem.
Elsewise I need to post the evidence because
YOU call ME a hacker.

Toker 10/19/01 12:09 PM i have not obtained anyting illegally and the
CD your refering to comes from internet shows
they sell the latest shit for ITs to test on
their systems every year

Unknown 10/19/01 12:09 PM You told me you also had collected manually
from the net

Unknown 10/19/01 12:09 PM I remember you had some CDs.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:09 PM But that's only one side of it.

Toker 10/19/01 12:10 PM yea i have things that appear in my email or i
get on IRC

Toker 10/19/01 12:10 PM but like i said i work on fixes

Unknown 10/19/01 12:10 PM Ok. But you have to understand that if that
screenshot prooves anything hackerlike, I will
have to post it in order to defend myself.

Toker 10/19/01 12:10 PM and you can see on AWI when the latest
epidemic hit i was the first to get a fix for
the community

Unknown 10/19/01 12:11 PM Yeah, we figured out the passwords for almost
ll the members - lol

Unknown 10/19/01 12:11 PM Uhm, that was some weeks ago. Well, could you
please tlell me what e-mail you used the last
months?

Toker 10/19/01 12:11 PM why would you need it?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:12 PM In order to search the inbox for e-mails from
you and find the one with the screenshot.

Toker 10/19/01 12:12 PM um and you think an image of a CD with cracks
is going to get me in shit?

Toker 10/19/01 12:13 PM search for bizfrontier.net

Unknown 10/19/01 12:13 PM No, but just proove that you are beeing a
hypocrit when you call me a hacker nerd etc.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:14 PM Found it! Thanks!

Unknown 10/19/01 12:14 PM F:Warez\software is the path to the folde.r

Unknown 10/19/01 12:14 PM I believe there were something else too

Unknown 10/19/01 12:15 PM I found the right one!

Unknown 10/19/01 12:15 PM Worms...

Toker 10/19/01 12:15 PM yep thats on the CD

Toker 10/19/01 12:15 PM and its totally legal to have not to use for
illegal purposes

Unknown 10/19/01 12:15 PM F:\Warez\software\viruses-exploits\

Unknown 10/19/01 12:15 PM That's not the point

Toker 10/19/01 12:15 PM yep thats one of my CD drives

Unknown 10/19/01 12:15 PM I am only doing this to defend my word.

Toker 10/19/01 12:16 PM whats the point i work to protect myself and
others and im a criminal like you who hacked
my shit?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:16 PM I didn't hack. Do I need to dig up evidence
for that too!!?

Toker 10/19/01 12:16 PM no i dont think so and you will have a very
hard time makin me look like the bad guy when
i have not done anything to anyone

Toker 10/19/01 12:16 PM ow now i hacked really?

Toker 10/19/01 12:17 PM i used leet UBB exploits to take over the
adult industry and hold them to my mercy

Unknown 10/19/01 12:17 PM I don't. But you lied about me and lied about
my word and you lied about yourself, now I
have the option to correct that simply by
digging up evidence to prove my word and
that's what count.

Toker 10/19/01 12:18 PM So who are you and where did you get theses
emails?

Toker 10/19/01 12:18 PM and no matter what you say i have evidence
recorded that once sent to the FBI and after
Tim provides me your IP will lead to full
criminal prosicution

Unknown 10/19/01 12:19 PM You aren't the sharpest pencil in the box are
you? lol

I used to know you, you used to be a good
friend.

Toker 10/19/01 12:19 PM fact is i may have the capability to do bad
things but i dont

Toker 10/19/01 12:19 PM if you knew how many people are on my ICQ and
i deal with remember i dont only work in adult
shit you would understand

Toker 10/19/01 12:20 PM you may think im dumb but you got me all wrong
i would never be stupid to break into somones
shit then post it on a public board

Unknown 10/19/01 12:20 PM If you blame the size of your contact list
then fine. The point is that we used to talk
and that's when you gave me info and e-mails.

Toker 10/19/01 12:21 PM and the emails are not illegal hacking is

Toker 10/19/01 12:21 PM i never gave you info about CP or logins to my
site

Unknown 10/19/01 12:22 PM Well, that's your oppinion anyway. I am sorry
it turned out this way. Bye.

Toker 10/19/01 12:22 PM yep me too because now i have to gather info
about you and waste my time to bring to the
feds and prosicute you

Unknown 10/19/01 12:23 PM lol - go ahead.

Toker 10/19/01 12:23 PM maybe if you knew anything about me you would
know i worked in the PI/Protection field for
quite a long time and have family in law
enforcment

Toker 10/19/01 12:24 PM matter fact you can call for referance
www.ffps.com (http://www.ffps.com)

Unknown 10/19/01 12:24 PM I know, you have a brother working as a cop
and a lawyer uncle or something .

Toker 10/19/01 12:24 PM so you dont know who your fucking with little
boy

Unknown 10/19/01 12:24 PM I couldn't care less though, I can prove my
case in any court, you gave me that password
and I can prove it just like I did with the
screenshot thing.

Toker 10/19/01 12:25 PM i gave you that password when?

Toker 10/19/01 12:25 PM and why would i give you my login?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:25 PM Some months ago. I kept a backup just in case.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:25 PM I don't remember, I am going to find out the
full story now.

Toker 10/19/01 12:25 PM and i told you here is my password use it
whenever you can to put CP links oon my site
and post screencaps

Unknown 10/19/01 12:26 PM No.

Unknown 10/19/01 12:26 PM WTF are you talking about posting CP links, I
only took a screenie.

Toker 10/19/01 12:26 PM so then even if i gave you my login which i
dont know why i would it would give you a
right to go in and do what you wish

Toker 10/19/01 12:27 PM funny then because the site was deleted before
i got in

Toker 10/19/01 12:27 PM let me see i have access to about 15 cliebts
servers so i should go in and steal their
traffic and talk shit about them

Toker 10/19/01 12:28 PM no they give me access to setup a site or
maintain a site not to make changes to their
shit or steal data

Toker 10/19/01 12:28 PM what name did you go by in the past BTW?

Unknown 10/19/01 12:29 PM Sheesh we'll talk later, I don't want to sit
here taking accusations all day. I backup
everything and will proove my innocence.

Toker 10/19/01 12:29 PM you go posting more lies and it will bite you
in the ass

Unknown 10/19/01 12:31 PM lol - what "more lies", I have evidence and
will not hesitate to use it.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have to upload the
screenshots.

Toker 10/19/01 12:32 PM go ahead i already had the last one deleted

Unknown 10/19/01 12:32 PM I don't see why they would delete the next
ones, all they do is saving my honor from your
sleazy lies.

Toker 10/19/01 12:32 PM and like i said i can back up 100% so you
start shit and i will take action

Toker 10/19/01 12:33 PM they will be doing more then that when tim
comes online ;0)

Toker 10/19/01 12:35 PM O and BTW i advised them about you having
users passwords from AWI so dont forget that
statement which i too will use against you

Unknown 10/19/01 12:35 PM Lol I already told Tim a long time ago, and
advised him about the bug.

Toker 10/19/01 12:36 PM thats ok the users will love to hear about
your bug tracking on there accounts

Toker 10/19/01 12:36 PM good job keep it up mr hacker boy

Unknown 10/19/01 12:36 PM I am not a hacker, you are the one best suited
for such a category.

Toker 10/19/01 12:36 PM the more you try to start shit i will bring
more shit on you

Toker 10/19/01 12:36 PM no thats your view

Toker 10/19/01 12:37 PM i dont and never have used my shit for evil
purposes

Unknown 10/19/01 12:37 PM Yeah, fine. We'll talk later if you absolutly
have to. I don't want though. All your coming
with are lies and insults.

Toker 10/19/01 12:37 PM matter fact ill give you the number if you
want to buy some CDs haha

Toker 10/19/01 12:37 PM no your tring to make me look like a pedo

Unknown 10/19/01 12:38 PM Bye. I don't want to talk to your sleazy lying
self anymore, would you please excuse me?

Toker 10/19/01 12:38 PM and by doing so you are makin problems for
yourself you should have never posted that BS
screencap which portreys a lie

Toker 10/19/01 12:39 PM alright bitch im gonna post this entire convo
on AWI if you try to make me look like a bad
guy again see if i dont and i will be raw
unedited footage of you admitting guilt

Unknown 10/19/01 12:39 PM I have already posted it all. Hah!

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:07 PM
Actually, I haven't edited a thing, just compare the ICQ logs for yourself if you want to. This is just another attempt on discrediting my word and make me look bad.

Toker, you had me worried you posted edited ICQ logs by the statement "since he wants to post and edited version of our conversation", when in fact I only left out the last messages which was written after I posted the ICQ log to AWI, so you see there's nothing wrong. Please don't do that again.


Unknown 19.10.01 18:38 I have already posted it all. Hah!

Toker 19.10.01 18:45 nice edit job you did

Unknown 19.10.01 18:45 Where? I haven't touched it.

Unknown 19.10.01 18:46 I faioled to miss your last message though

Unknown 19.10.01 18:46 I posted before you wrote that

Toker 19.10.01 18:47 thats ok i posted it all

Toker 19.10.01 18:47 and no i never gave you my login thats BS but
good try

Unknown 19.10.01 18:48 Why are you lying and saying I edited when I only
left out the last message you posted AFTER I
posted the log on AWI?

Toker 19.10.01 18:49 o now im a liar they can read em both and make
their own judgment

Unknown 19.10.01 18:49 Have you edited the log except adding the last
messages?

Toker 19.10.01 18:50 you fucked up kid makin up a lie about me and CP
as well as going into my stats now AWI wont save
you from what action im going to take

Unknown 19.10.01 18:50 Answer me! Did you edit any of our log except
adding the last messages?

Toker 19.10.01 18:50 nope i didnt edit shit

Toker 19.10.01 18:51 i didnt even have time to edit but you sure did

Unknown 19.10.01 18:51 Tell me where!!

Toker 19.10.01 18:51 im not reading thru it to compair but you can

Toker 19.10.01 18:51 enjoy

Toker 19.10.01 18:52 PS just wait till i get your IP from Tim your in
for a real day of fun

Unknown 19.10.01 18:52 Damn, you are worse than I thought, if you have
edited the log I will do anything ANYTHING to
prove my innocence and expose the truth.

Toker 19.10.01 18:53 i didnt edit so stop talkin more shit

Toker 19.10.01 18:54 and prove what lies about me you want the FEDs
will be able to retrieve the history from ICQs
servers

Toker 19.10.01 18:54 and from my server for that matter ;0)

Unknown 19.10.01 18:55 That's not the point, there will not be any feds
knocking on my doors in any case, you YOU make me
look bad on AWI on purpose by faking ICQ log if
you edited it.

Toker 19.10.01 18:56 i told you get it thru your head you can read you
have the same history as i do

Unknown 19.10.01 18:56 I will read and compare now just in case, excuse
me for 5 minutes.

Unknown 19.10.01 19:04 I discredited you, yours and mine ICQ log does
match, you haven't edited a thing. Thank you. But
still, you said on AWI that I edited and that
makes me look bad because I didn't-

Toker 19.10.01 19:06 if you didnt edit fine i know it was not all
there till the very end and mine does go untill
the very end

Unknown 19.10.01 19:06 What are you talking about, time?

Unknown 19.10.01 19:06 We have different time xzones and types and the
ICQ log reflect that.


So again, please read all material before any of you judge either of us.

toker
10-19-2001, 12:07 PM
And just to add to it all i had no time to edit the i posted after the very last word was typed by him as you can see... But anyhow if you care to do a search and see what ive done with exploits and how i do try to conteract these pesky buggers not use them to do bad things.

I have CDs its not illegal to have a gun if you dont use it to shoot somone as hes tring to portray.. Furthermore the last exloit that came out i immeadlity notified people on this board and warned them about it. Now he can try to tell a tale about me but those who know me will tell you i dont go around tring to force auto bookmarks and other BS. Hes mad because this post backfired on him and he even went to the mods to try and have this post deleted yesterday.

So i dont really give a shit what he says about me or what i do but i do care about some fucker going into my site and fuckin with my shit to tell a lie. Just from the beginning of this post everyone can tell hes up to no good and then after admitting he foigured a way to get your AWI login info backs it.

Not to mention his statement he posted from our conversation backs that issue 100% on both sides as evidence whos the little hacker wanabee here...

Now im done with this post as i just wanted to prove the CP shit was a lie i could care less if everyone thought i was a sinister hacker or whatever. I just dont want the label as trading with pedo sites or being involved in such and that is my only major concern besides him going thru my stats illegally.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>And just to add to it all i had no time to edit the i posted after the very last word was typed by him as you can see... But anyhow if you care to do a search and see what ive done with exploits and how i do try to conteract these pesky buggers not use them to do bad things.

I have CDs its not illegal to have a gun if you dont use it to shoot somone as hes tring to portray.. Furthermore the last exloit that came out i immeadlity notified people on this board and warned them about it. Now he can try to tell a tale about me but those who know me will tell you i dont go around tring to force auto bookmarks and other BS. Hes mad because this post backfired on him and he even went to the mods to try and have this post deleted yesterday.

So i dont really give a shit what he says about me or what i do but i do care about some fucker going into my site and fuckin with my shit to tell a lie. Just from the beginning of this post everyone can tell hes up to no good and then after admitting he foigured a way to get your AWI login info backs it.

Not to mention his statement he posted from our conversation backs that issue 100% on both sides as evidence whos the little hacker wanabee here...

Now im done with this post as i just wanted to prove the CP shit was a lie i could care less if everyone thought i was a sinister hacker or whatever. I just dont want the label as trading with pedo sites or being involved in such and that is my only major concern besides him going thru my stats illegally.</STRONG>

Point 1: Well, having those exploits make you as much guilty as me since I have AutoBookmark, I think you are beeing hypocritical and that's one of the reasons as to why I posted those screenshots. Another reason was because you DENYED it at first, and then I felt the urge to show proof naturally.

Point 2: It is true that I asked Magnatique to delete this threat because it is all a big mistake and nothing good come out of it. All it does is making us all look bad. Do you feel different?

Point 3: It is true that we discovered some AWI passwords, but unlike you [story]tell, we did not use them for any purpose at all. I informed several persons on this board about the bug immediately.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:24 PM
Another thing that I find odd Toker... You enjoyed telling our friends here at AWI that I asked Magnatique to delete this thread... NO Problem! It's the truth. I feel that this topic should never have been started.

BUT the funny thing is that you asked him to delete the thread YOURSELF too! Lol!

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:26 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>BUT the funny thing is that you asked him to delete the thread YOURSELF too! Lol!</STRONG>

And that's also how you found out. Magnatique told you something like "no can do, I already told Unknown no can do and it wouldn't be professional to take a side"

magnatique
10-19-2001, 12:43 PM
don't bring me into this guyz, please ;)

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by magnatique:
<STRONG>don't bring me into this guyz, please ;)</STRONG>

Nah I wont, just had to mention that one thing... :)

battuss
10-19-2001, 12:48 PM
Im gonna stay out of this, its not my business but i have to say that Unknown has a more than normal interest in hacking/cracking. You keep on defending yourself not being a hacker but i remember your first post here and those were to find exploits in the board's coding. Why would one do that if he isnt interested in hacking?
Plus the scripts you are writing makes you a hacker in my opinion.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 12:58 PM
Originally posted by battuss:
<STRONG>Im gonna stay out of this, its not my business but i have to say that Unknown has a more than normal interest in hacking/cracking. You keep on defending yourself not being a hacker but i remember your first post here and those were to find exploits in the board's coding. Why would one do that if he isnt interested in hacking?
Plus the scripts you are writing makes you a hacker in my opinion.</STRONG>

Well, I must admit, I am interested in the ability to do things others can't, but I wouldn't call myself a hacker. Playing with an virus/exploit (And not using it!) doesn't constitute hacking. Neither does accessing Tokers sites with a password he himself has given me or by using an obvious bug to extract AWI account passwords. Anyone with a little interest could do the same.

Either way, you'd have to call Toker a hacker too, because as you can see he also shows interest in it, very much in fact as you can see.

battuss
10-19-2001, 01:08 PM
Hrm

toker
10-19-2001, 01:41 PM
Yes i asked to have the images deleted not the post i have no probs with the post and lest i had dignity to not mention a name as its irrelevent. Furthermore William from pornonett.com mr i changed my identity because AWI flamed me to the point a could not bear to be known anymore.

Yeep i went thru hours of logs on all my contacts and i discovered who it was and you are the only person ever given a login to anything i own besides Hamlet and that guy is honest beyond words.

Anyhow i never gave you access to that site i gave you access to one of my other FTPs which had same password. Then you decided to guess that against my other shit apparently and hop in uninvited to do your evil bullshit.

I wanted to be 100% sure before i threw out this info so i did just that and for anyone who wants the real scoop. Yea i was involved in illegal shit approx 5 years back i lived on the defcon voice BBS systems 2600 ect.. and learned alot of shit most illegal and studied telecommunications mostly. I never used this information to hurt anyone or cost anyone 1 fuckin dime. I gained knowledge to assist me in a future of security and maintence which i planned to work as an IT one day.

I have access as previously stated to more then one server and i have NEVER abused that right. This guy william distros Warez from a server he does not own and works for a company called Sexshop.no who also owns his domain pornonett.com just so you know.

He came to me a while back and we BSed a big when i was kinda new to the CJ thing and eventually he told me he did this just for fun. Later he told me he developed Java/php scripts includng the one he used on pornonett.com so theres your scripting profile.

A while back after the whole terrorist thing he decided to talk shit about americans then was flamed for it and later changed identity. Not only did he change his AWI identity but also his ICQ i have not seen him on ICQ for weeks under his normal UIN. I to told him he was an asshole about what he said and abandond him as a person i would associate with and he knows this.

If you do some searching you will find enuff stuff on this guy to prove he is up to no good and does not care about the money made by this industry. To him this is just a hobby and a good way to get some free porn without paying for it. I even told him just hop on IRC for that and it would save alot of work and time.. Jeez i figured out how to DL porn from there when i was 16 and it didnt take near as much time sorting thru posts all day. :p

Fact is he owns shit hes a broke warez kiddy wanabee hacker guy. I never would run around this industry and brag what i have been involved in from the past because security is a big thing we all worry about in this biz. I dont want to hide the fact ive learned by example but i will be a big man and admit i have done illegal shit. I will also admit i love weed as i know many of you who i have spoken with do also. ;)

Its illegal to smoke weed but its not as great a concern i would need to hide it as being involved in hacking shit. Yes i have tools to do just about anything and you can buy them at any convention thats not illegal. Furthermore i have done things to try to protect my interests and when i was involved in other activities i was in no way involved in this biz.

I do care about this industry now that im a small part and i may not be as big as some guys but i do my best to play a fair game. I dont appreaciate this guy William telling his lies and going thru my shit unauthorized like he did but what he did was try to create an illusion. I never had any CP images on any site i own and never will as long as i live.

I dont really need to prove anything here but this whole situation makes me very angry and i think truth is best policy and most would agree. If you dont like me i could care less and live perfectly well without you as i have for 26 years of my life. But i want people to know who this guy really is and to know all he does is try to create problems which have always backfired in his face.

Ya im boared one of my sites is down so i have free time to sit here for a bit untill it comes up so i figured i would look into the mystery of Unknown and let the truth be told. It makes him angry and i know he will be even more upset when he finds out what i discovered about his identity.

He swears he has no involvment with illegal activity when he was running a distro site mixed in with porn to get more traffic. Yep were talkin big time warez shit not just giving registrations but access to the FTPs where users could download it...

Yea i have warez too but i dont throw them up on the web or use them to gain profits off other peops hard work. You think whos paying for all his bandwidth if this is only a hobby and he makes no money.. Answer his company does and they do not know what hes been up to eather it seems.

Well there is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth plain and simple. If you think im a bad guy who wants to take over peoples shit you can ask around and you wont find anyone who can say i abused their login info or played with their script/traffic ever. I dont care how angry or board i may be its not worth it and it would suck to have somone come on here and say Toker hijacked my traffic or some shit to that effect.

Well i hope this clears things up a bit and since this guy admitted to having gained access to AWI logins i think a ban should be put on his sorry lame ass.

Why would anyone even want AWI logins unless they planed to use them for evil purposes..?

So now you know all and i remember this saying from when i was a kid and watched GI Joe "Knowing is half the battle".. :)

salsbury
10-19-2001, 01:51 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>I don't think it is an illegal script to use</STRONG>
if it takes advantage of a bug in the browser, its probably illegal.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 01:58 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>Yes i asked to have the images deleted not the post i have no probs with the post and lest i had dignity to not mention a name as its irrelevent. Furthermore William from pornonett.com mr i changed my identity because AWI flamed me to the point a could not bear to be known anymore.

Yeep i went thru hours of logs on all my contacts and i discovered who it was and you are the only person ever given a login to anything i own besides Hamlet and that guy is honest beyond words.

Anyhow i never gave you access to that site i gave you access to one of my other FTPs which had same password. Then you decided to guess that against my other shit apparently and hop in uninvited to do your evil bullshit.

I wanted to be 100% sure before i threw out this info so i did just that and for anyone who wants the real scoop. Yea i was involved in illegal shit approx 5 years back i lived on the defcon voice BBS systems 2600 ect.. and learned alot of shit most illegal and studied telecommunications mostly. I never used this information to hurt anyone or cost anyone 1 fuckin dime. I gained knowledge to assist me in a future of security and maintence which i planned to work as an IT one day.

I have access as previously stated to more then one server and i have NEVER abused that right. This guy william distros Warez from a server he does not own and works for a company called Sexshop.no who also owns his domain pornonett.com just so you know.

He came to me a while back and we BSed a big when i was kinda new to the CJ thing and eventually he told me he did this just for fun. Later he told me he developed Java/php scripts includng the one he used on pornonett.com so theres your scripting profile.

A while back after the whole terrorist thing he decided to talk shit about americans then was flamed for it and later changed identity. Not only did he change his AWI identity but also his ICQ i have not seen him on ICQ for weeks under his normal UIN. I to told him he was an asshole about what he said and abandond him as a person i would associate with and he knows this.

If you do some searching you will find enuff stuff on this guy to prove he is up to no good and does not care about the money made by this industry. To him this is just a hobby and a good way to get some free porn without paying for it. I even told him just hop on IRC for that and it would save alot of work and time.. Jeez i figured out how to DL porn from there when i was 16 and it didnt take near as much time sorting thru posts all day. :p

Fact is he owns shit hes a broke warez kiddy wanabee hacker guy. I never would run around this industry and brag what i have been involved in from the past because security is a big thing we all worry about in this biz. I dont want to hide the fact ive learned by example but i will be a big man and admit i have done illegal shit. I will also admit i love weed as i know many of you who i have spoken with do also. ;)

Its illegal to smoke weed but its not as great a concern i would need to hide it as being involved in hacking shit. Yes i have tools to do just about anything and you can buy them at any convention thats not illegal. Furthermore i have done things to try to protect my interests and when i was involved in other activities i was in no way involved in this biz.

I do care about this industry now that im a small part and i may not be as big as some guys but i do my best to play a fair game. I dont appreaciate this guy William telling his lies and going thru my shit unauthorized like he did but what he did was try to create an illusion. I never had any CP images on any site i own and never will as long as i live.

I dont really need to prove anything here but this whole situation makes me very angry and i think truth is best policy and most would agree. If you dont like me i could care less and live perfectly well without you as i have for 26 years of my life. But i want people to know who this guy really is and to know all he does is try to create problems which have always backfired in his face.

Ya im boared one of my sites is down so i have free time to sit here for a bit untill it comes up so i figured i would look into the mystery of Unknown and let the truth be told. It makes him angry and i know he will be even more upset when he finds out what i discovered about his identity.

He swears he has no involvment with illegal activity when he was running a distro site mixed in with porn to get more traffic. Yep were talkin big time warez shit not just giving registrations but access to the FTPs where users could download it...

Yea i have warez too but i dont throw them up on the web or use them to gain profits off other peops hard work. You think whos paying for all his bandwidth if this is only a hobby and he makes no money.. Answer his company does and they do not know what hes been up to eather it seems.

Well there is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth plain and simple. If you think im a bad guy who wants to take over peoples shit you can ask around and you wont find anyone who can say i abused their login info or played with their script/traffic ever. I dont care how angry or board i may be its not worth it and it would suck to have somone come on here and say Toker hijacked my traffic or some shit to that effect.

Well i hope this clears things up a bit and since this guy admitted to having gained access to AWI logins i think a ban should be put on his sorry lame ass.

Why would anyone even want AWI logins unless they planed to use them for evil purposes..?

So now you know all and i remember this saying from when i was a kid and watched GI Joe "Knowing is half the battle".. :)</STRONG>

So, it finally went up for you, damn you are slow. William was my previous identity, that is correct. So what, if you don't mind me ask? I have identities for the Casino side, non-adult side and real-life aswell.

What is this talk about warez though? I don't run any warez sites or FTP's. That's your kind of thing, don't try to drag me into it. :p

run
10-19-2001, 02:01 PM
Toker, why do you still take the time to argue with this idiot?

some people can not be argued with, because no matter what you say they will only see their side of the subject.

Do what others can't do? Jeez what an idiot you turned out to be. Do something usefull what others can't do. Your activity seems like the one of 9 year old kids with too much free time.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 02:06 PM
Ahh, I see you post much more false information and comments in there, but I won't take the time to comment it all right now, it's not worth my time. After all, who cares what you say after all your exposed lies. :)

Unknown
10-19-2001, 02:07 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>Ahh, I see you post much more false information and comments in there, but I won't take the time to comment it all right now, it's not worth my time. After all, who cares what you say after all your exposed lies. :)</STRONG>

That was for Toker by the way.

Pinox
10-19-2001, 02:25 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>Either way, you'd have to call Toker a hacker too, because as you can see he also shows interest in it, very much in fact as you can see.</STRONG>

But Tok doesnt login to other peoples admin scripts or computers...

As i see the screenshots you where in his computer, on his harddrive and that is hacking and illegal.. simple..

When L.a.n.e is a cheater and hacker then you are one for sure. He did the same, only when he did it he got whole AWI on his neck, and now everybody keeps their mout shut.

Tok gives you his password??? I doubt it. You give only your pass to some you really trust and as far as i know Toker he isnt so dumb that he gives his pass to some, especially he dont trust some easely.

Ron

Unknown
10-19-2001, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by Pinox:
<STRONG>

But Tok doesnt login to other peoples admin scripts or computers...

As i see the screenshots you where in his computer, on his harddrive and that is hacking and illegal.. simple..

When L.a.n.e is a cheater and hacker then you are one for sure. He did the same, only when he did it he got whole AWI on his neck, and now everybody keeps their mout shut.

Tok gives you his password??? I doubt it. You give only your pass to some you really trust and as far as i know Toker he isnt so dumb that he gives his pass to some, especially he dont trust some easely.

Ron</STRONG>

Lol! Who's dumb? First off, those screenshots were taken by Toker and then given to me. Toker: True. Unknown: True. Pinox: False.

So from this you can safely conclude that I didn't hack his HDD.

Second, Toker did gave me his password. (On TWO seperate occations) Toker: True. Unknown: True. Pinox: False.

And from this you can safely conclude that I didn't hack his password.



Pinox: i know Toker he isnt so dumb that he gives his pass to some


Hey Toker, Pinox just called you dumb - lol.

bitz
10-19-2001, 02:48 PM
Pinox toker already admitted he gave him his pw scroll up..

bitz
10-19-2001, 02:49 PM
"Yeep i went thru hours of logs on all my contacts and i discovered who it was and you are the only person ever given a login to anything i own besides Hamlet and that guy is honest beyond words. "

toker
10-19-2001, 02:55 PM
Ok well the warez site used to be called
Will's quality 1-file downloads - Applications and the URL was.. http://www.pornonett.com/1files/applications1.html

He was so proud to offer free commercial software just for visiting hit porn site how nice of him.. :)

Now since my site is still down and im getting board with TV heres some other jucy stuff about William and his power so dont make him angry.. HaHa

PS: William its to bad you always end up on the loosing end and think your such a big shot..

Here is a convo from a while back before i wanted nothing to do with his sorry ass..

In this conversation i told him about how greenguy had linked my site but i didnt ask for it and i thought it was nice of him..


Will 9/11/01 12:20 AM Uhhh I hate GG

Toker 9/11/01 12:21 AM yea but GG is HQ traffic

Toker 9/11/01 12:21 AM Here is the message sent by William:
Subject: Testing...
----------------------------------------------
---
Just testing out the functions.
Damn, this board is much better than AWI.

Will 9/11/01 12:21 AM Yeah. :)

Will 9/11/01 12:22 AM BTW want GG's ICQ #?

Toker 9/11/01 12:22 AM i have no idea i never talked to him

Toker 9/11/01 12:22 AM thats why when i saw that i was amazed he
musta really liked my site

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Hehe I made an indirect threat to him and he
resigned from webmastering for 2 weeks because
he was scared. He deserved it though. That's
piece of crap.

So I'm on his ignorelist now.

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM That's = That

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Uhm

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Anyway, here's his ICQ # 1391018

Toker 9/11/01 12:24 AM what???

Will 9/11/01 12:24 AM What what?

Toker 9/11/01 12:24 AM he resigned what did you say and why???

Will 9/11/01 12:24 AM Some months ago, when I used to hang out at
GG's board.

Toker 9/11/01 12:25 AM but what happened?

Will 9/11/01 12:26 AM And he pissed of a friend of mine so he
ofcourse got very mad and me aswell. Later
when we talked on ICQ (GG and me) I said some
friends of mine are after him and we know his
adress etc and telephone number... Some hours
later he wrote in his board that he was beeing
threatened and that it scared him and he
resigned for 2 weeks

Will 9/11/01 12:27 AM It's 100% true! Check his board archive and
ask him if you want.

Toker 9/11/01 12:27 AM dam

Toker 9/11/01 12:27 AM hes in the same country?

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM ACTUALLY HE SAID HE DIDN*T WANT ANYTHING MORE
TO DO WITH COMPUTERS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE OF
THIS AND HE MIGHT CONSIDER COMING BACK LATER:
" WEEKS WENT BEFORE WE SAW HIM AGAIN:_

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM DAMN CAPS

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM MY KEYBOARD:::: SORRY::::

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM No, he lives in USA:

Toker 9/11/01 12:28 AM dam

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM But I told him I got international connections
and some shit... Lol

Will 9/11/01 12:32 AM Ofcourse, I was just mad and told him lots of
bullshit, I didn't plan to kill him or
anything.

Will 9/11/01 12:32 AM No hard feelings? LOL

End Clip --------------------

Want to continue this game William its starting to become fun?

Anyone want to know more shit about Mr Will just do a search on AWI for Will William PornoWill i think those are the others he used...

This guy is full of shit everything he says is a lie he uses alter identity because he needed to hide untill the heat died down. On his site he had the following statement at the bottom.

- You had it coming, America -
"What goes around, comes around."

This was the statement that stepped over the line and was going to get him blacklisted everywhere. So he decided to start a new identity and start over with a new look on his site and a new name on the boards. Why else would he change it ive had the same for dam ever since day 1 and no matter what im not gonna run and hide from anyone on the internet. :p

So word to the wise this guy is a cheater he used my login regardless of how he got it i did not give him permission and thats called hacking.

If i give you a key to my house and you decide to make a copy and save it for later then come and rearange my furniture or just look around my house is that sill not tresspassing and unlawful entry?

I ask this guy be banned for eternity for doing what he did and i hope he is happy because i deleted that unwanted site... :)

BTW i would love you to make threats to me and sent your international possie becuase i think it would be fun to play outlaw.. ;)

Pinox
10-19-2001, 02:57 PM
Originally posted by Unknown:
<STRONG>

Hey Toker, Pinox just called you dumb - lol.</STRONG>

Oh he dont give a shit about that. I call him at least once a day dumb... :D

Bitz--&gt; okay i scrolled up and Toker said this:

Originally posted by Toker:
<STRONG>Anyhow i never gave you access to that site i gave you access to one of my other FTPs which had same password. Then you decided to guess that against my other shit apparently and hop in uninvited to do your evil bullshit
</STRONG>

He didnt give pass only to FTP, not to that site.

If i give some a key of my house does that mean he can go to all rooms or whatever??? No way.

Ron..

(And when goes that goddamn server from likewhoa online again??)

Unknown
10-19-2001, 03:04 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>Ok well the warez site used to be called
Will's quality 1-file downloads - Applications and the URL was.. http://www.pornonett.com/1files/applications1.html

He was so proud to offer free commercial software just for visiting hit porn site how nice of him.. :)

Now since my site is still down and im getting board with TV heres some other jucy stuff about William and his power so dont make him angry.. HaHa

PS: William its to bad you always end up on the loosing end and think your such a big shot..

Here is a convo from a while back before i wanted nothing to do with his sorry ass..

In this conversation i told him about how greenguy had linked my site but i didnt ask for it and i thought it was nice of him..


Will 9/11/01 12:20 AM Uhhh I hate GG

Toker 9/11/01 12:21 AM yea but GG is HQ traffic

Toker 9/11/01 12:21 AM Here is the message sent by William:
Subject: Testing...
----------------------------------------------
---
Just testing out the functions.
Damn, this board is much better than AWI.

Will 9/11/01 12:21 AM Yeah. :)

Will 9/11/01 12:22 AM BTW want GG's ICQ #?

Toker 9/11/01 12:22 AM i have no idea i never talked to him

Toker 9/11/01 12:22 AM thats why when i saw that i was amazed he
musta really liked my site

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Hehe I made an indirect threat to him and he
resigned from webmastering for 2 weeks because
he was scared. He deserved it though. That's
piece of crap.

So I'm on his ignorelist now.

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM That's = That

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Uhm

Will 9/11/01 12:23 AM Anyway, here's his ICQ # 1391018

Toker 9/11/01 12:24 AM what???

Will 9/11/01 12:24 AM What what?

Toker 9/11/01 12:24 AM he resigned what did you say and why???

Will 9/11/01 12:24 AM Some months ago, when I used to hang out at
GG's board.

Toker 9/11/01 12:25 AM but what happened?

Will 9/11/01 12:26 AM And he pissed of a friend of mine so he
ofcourse got very mad and me aswell. Later
when we talked on ICQ (GG and me) I said some
friends of mine are after him and we know his
adress etc and telephone number... Some hours
later he wrote in his board that he was beeing
threatened and that it scared him and he
resigned for 2 weeks

Will 9/11/01 12:27 AM It's 100% true! Check his board archive and
ask him if you want.

Toker 9/11/01 12:27 AM dam

Toker 9/11/01 12:27 AM hes in the same country?

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM ACTUALLY HE SAID HE DIDN*T WANT ANYTHING MORE
TO DO WITH COMPUTERS FOR A WHILE BECAUSE OF
THIS AND HE MIGHT CONSIDER COMING BACK LATER:
" WEEKS WENT BEFORE WE SAW HIM AGAIN:_

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM DAMN CAPS

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM MY KEYBOARD:::: SORRY::::

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM No, he lives in USA:

Toker 9/11/01 12:28 AM dam

Will 9/11/01 12:28 AM But I told him I got international connections
and some shit... Lol

Will 9/11/01 12:32 AM Ofcourse, I was just mad and told him lots of
bullshit, I didn't plan to kill him or
anything.

Will 9/11/01 12:32 AM No hard feelings? LOL

End Clip --------------------

Want to continue this game William its starting to become fun?

Anyone want to know more shit about Mr Will just do a search on AWI for Will William PornoWill i think those are the others he used...

This guy is full of shit everything he says is a lie he uses alter identity because he needed to hide untill the heat died down. On his site he had the following statement at the bottom.

- You had it coming, America -
"What goes around, comes around."

This was the statement that stepped over the line and was going to get him blacklisted everywhere. So he decided to start a new identity and start over with a new look on his site and a new name on the boards. Why else would he change it ive had the same for dam ever since day 1 and no matter what im not gonna run and hide from anyone on the internet. :p

So word to the wise this guy is a cheater he used my login regardless of how he got it i did not give him permission and thats called hacking.

If i give you a key to my house and you decide to make a copy and save it for later then come and rearange my furniture or just look around my house is that sill not tresspassing and unlawful entry?

I ask this guy be banned for eternity for doing what he did and i hope he is happy because i deleted that unwanted site... :)

BTW i would love you to make threats to me and sent your international possie becuase i think it would be fun to play outlaw.. ;)</STRONG>

What are you making up this bullshit for?

Would you be so big mouthed if I get your whole ICQ folder and offer it as a zipped download so people can see the real logs with no editing involved?

I guess not!

I am going to get to you and every lie you propose in here, trust me. Don't feel safe.

toker
10-19-2001, 03:11 PM
Yea as you keep posting i will do same so just keep tring to cover up...

No i suggest you change identity again and stop tring to start shit with me.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 03:20 PM
Uhm, and what heat? Do you think meaningless flaming from bitter cp webmasters get to me? Hah!

Ìt's true I was banned once because some people couldn't handle that I saw the sept. 11. episodes from two angles, they just couldn't handle any critisism seeing what hypocrits they are. USA had it coming no matter what you say, it was very predictable.

Unknown
10-19-2001, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>Yea as you keep posting i will do same so just keep tring to cover up...

No i suggest you change identity again and stop tring to start shit with me.</STRONG>

Yeah, you want me silenced don't you. Because that is all this is about, and any readers with a little brain will figure that out. *shrugs*

toker
10-19-2001, 03:59 PM
Ok we have discussed this and decided to stop because neither of us will gain by this nonsence hopefully my dam site comes up soon and i can get back to work on it.. :(

I just hope the auto bookmark script will not be released because there are far greater things needed then more cheating in ths biz....

Unknown
10-19-2001, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by toker:
<STRONG>Ok we have discussed this and decided to stop because neither of us will gain by this nonsence hopefully my dam site comes up soon and i can get back to work on it.. :(

I just hope the auto bookmark script will not be released because there are far greater things needed then more cheating in ths biz....</STRONG>

Agreed.

gotys
10-19-2001, 06:28 PM
Children

1407
10-19-2001, 07:35 PM
You are turning this in to a thing between you and toker..

Its not!

It is you who whants to use a fuckedup script...

End of case

GFY

kong
10-20-2001, 07:33 PM
Unkown is William...

-Kong