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Rimmer
09-19-1999, 03:06 AM
The idea behind the scoring system is to rate sites according to how many consoles they have etc. A higher score will generally mean that the traffic is of higher quality as I'd say most people would agree the less consoles/tricky javascript a site has the better the traffic.

The idea of the list will be so that webmasters can easily find traders that easily have a similar quality level of traffic. Not that you can't trade with people at all levels but you would be happier to give some with a high quality level a higher ratio than someone with a low level. This should hopefully make it easier trades across the board while not telling anyone that there are hard and fast rules to stick to.

Freedom of choice is important.

Here is the first draft of the proposed scoring system.

A site starts at 100% and it stays there if it has no consoles/javascript.

Now we have subtractions
Each Entrance Console -10%
Each Exit Console on the chain -10%
Java resize -10% (is it really necessary)
Full Screen Exit -40%
Exit consoles opening on outclicks (i.e. multiple windows opening with one click) -40%
Any extra javascript tricks not mentioned -Generally 10% though some may count as more

These numbers are only a starting point. Let me know what you think.

Rimmer

Anthony
09-19-1999, 03:14 AM
Tim,

I agree with the numbers so far, however, on resize, I think that it's needed. So many default sizes for windows opening that a resize is needed.

Thoughts anyone?

Re's

Juggler
09-19-1999, 06:29 AM
I love the idea one thing though could you explain why an exit console would lose 10% and a full page exit console would lose 40% I am surprised that full page exit traffic would be that much worse than traffic from an exit console.

Thanks

Happy trading

Anthony
09-19-1999, 06:37 AM
Juggler,

One of the things to get ironed out. If we can get a consesus on what percentages, then we would have set variables.

The more ppl we get to work and add to this the better.

Re's

Juggler
09-19-1999, 07:42 AM
I am not sure but i think I heard someone say one of the scripts counts the ratio of out hits to hit sent (I am more than likey wrong about this) if so would it be possible to use it to see the quality of traffic sent from exit console, full page console etc or would that be a bit to much.

happy trading

Rimmer
09-19-1999, 07:56 AM
Juggler,
I mean an exit without a close button.... that's a full screen console .. they're pretty nasty and people just click to get out of it. The traffic is high quantity but lower quality.

Anthony,
The resize tag is everywhere however I think I heard in another thread that its a possible cause of crashing Netscape. Does anyone actually know for sure if that's a common cause of browser crashes. If so then its probably worth the -10% if its not then maybe -5% because its still a negative but its not really that bad. I'd like to know what everyone else thinks. :-)

I personally have a site with quite a few of the items mentioned above plus a site that's 100% clean. Personally I believe there is a place for both kinds of sites.

shane
09-19-1999, 11:13 AM
good concept. however my site seems to change every couple of days.
I think if people are using that unclosable exit window they should loose 80% and there needs to be a warning there, so netscape users are aware of this.

Flying Monkey
09-19-1999, 01:09 PM
If you guys are really into this scoring system, then you can count me in, but I think we could do just as well by deciding on some standard rules, and then there would be only 2 percentages - 0% and 100%. Either the site passes or fails. If they open one console at a time, open one site per link, etc, they pass. If they crash your browser with consoles or open 5 pages with the click of one link, they fail. It's that simple. I think the percentage system might be unnecessarily complicating something that is really simple. But if you guys think it will be beneficial, then I'll be a part of it.

Flying Monkey
09-19-1999, 01:12 PM
Oh, and I almost forgot. I don't care how many points you give it, I'm not trading with any site that uses a full-size console with no close button. That's just bs, and there's no point in it.

Juggler
09-19-1999, 08:57 PM
Thanks for explaining that Rimmer, it somthing I have never used (Newbies hey) or will use.

Shane had made a relly good point about site changing at a fast rate you would have to get people to agree to imform Anthony of any changes i.e. adding an entranace also I think if any major changes are made you should either have to imform everyone you are trading with or what may be a better way is to post to the notice board that you have made the changes to your site.

This of course would have to be a Gentlemans agreement but after working with people in this industry I think 99% will go by it and of course with so many egale eyed webmasters about it would not take long before it was noticed.

I would also suggest a site could choose to get a lower rating for example a site that uses a exit console and sometimes but not always uses a entrance console would choose to be rated at 80% rather than keep imforming evey one of the changes.

I use Netscape so far I have never had it crash because a site is resizing the window. I give a vote for 5%

Happy trading

Anthony
09-20-1999, 03:24 PM
Ok, here's my breakdown:
Simple Checklist
Has Entrance Console: Yes -5%
Has Multiple Enter Consoles: Yes -5% per
***Heres the tricky part, You can have an exit console, why not? Just not over trades***
Has Exit Console: -5%
Has Multiple Consoles (more than one opens): -5% per
Has Exit Console over Trades: - 40%

Please add your thoughts to this.

Dan S
09-20-1999, 03:33 PM
Hmmm,

sounds good to me,
but open an exit should over a trade should cause an 0-5% overall rating.

I personally do not want to trade with this.

Juggler
09-20-1999, 07:18 PM
Sounds good Anthony

I am in total agreement with Dan though I think if an exit console is opened over a trade than you should lose 100% it has got to be a big no no. I would even go as far as saying if any consoles open at the same time as a trades site is opened I will make them lose 100% I do not know if it can be done but I would not even want a page opening behind mine. Exit console, if you use them, should only open when surfers exit your site.

Happy trading

MeDude
09-21-1999, 03:44 PM
Could someone please post a data, on when this sytem take place, so everyone would at least have a few days to prepare.

and iam 100% for this system.. cause i think with quality traffic we could make 3 times as much money.

("If you need a place to host this system, or someone to run it - count me in :-) ")

THEGREEK
09-24-1999, 04:11 PM
Now this Idea I like :-)
Please keep me posted, I think it's time we do some cleaning.

THANKS!!!
THEGREEK
thegreek@colba.net