'Exit Windowing Sites' (Cheating????)

[TheDoc]

I think when it comes to CJ sites with scripts I can say I have been doing it longer than anyone along with a couple of others.

I see alot of slamming (so called cheating) about 'exit poping a full site' - basicly we all know this is the shit of all shit traffic next to the galleries on a TGP. I think 'you guys' should create a section called shit senders and use it for guys 'exit windowing' other sites. Cause I tell ya I dont 'normally' stop a trade for a exit window I just lower their ratio and let them 'feed me shit' cause If I get the traffic I convert it. But the over all thing is if I dont want the exit traffic I tell them this. Either remove the full site exits or im pulling our trade. Most people pull the exit.

Insteading of branding them a 'cheater' brand then a 'shit sender' -

TheDoc

[Juggler]

doc that is fine but how many of these sites have come to you and asked if it is OK to send you it I have had a big 0 so if you do not know they are doing it how are you meant to lower the ratio for them it is written on the sign up page that I DO not except exit traffic so if someone sends it it is cheating????



Happy trading

[TheDoc]

Basicly it's pretty simple - I trade with 500+ sites and I couldnt tell you the rules
of 5 sites - and them 5 are my net buddies that I work with. IE - Click here porn, picwarehouse - just to name a couple.

Basicly alot of people signup with 20 or 30 sites some allow exit some dont - most people dont read the rules and the ones that do a month down the road they forget add the exit.

Now im not saying at any point that exits are right - even more so if you say dont (just like my site does) but insted of branding them a cheater - just let them feed ya.

It does seem though it is 'alot' of the newbies that are doing it - This weekend im releasing a script that will detect cheaters I can try to add in one that detects you base url in a exit window (wont catch them all but might help)

TheDoc

[Juggler]

The main reson I call it cheating is 2 things happen when I find a site doing it and remove them

1) the outclicks improve vastly so my trades get stronger
2) I earn more money

#2 is why I am doing this when someone sends me exit traffic I lose money the cheat me out of it.

I would love to be able to turn what they are doing around and use it to my advantage but I am still very much a newbie and trying to learn as I go I still have to fight every day to make it work for me I have put a lot of work in and I would like to be spending my time learning something that is a benifit to the whole adult internet industry and not wasting my time find out who is (as I see it) robbing me.

I totally see what you are saying and maybe 'shit sender' would be a better exprssion byt to me they are cheats and that is what I will call them.

I would like to add that while looking I found that most traders are honest and are working to make a good site that earns them $$$ without hurting others most if not all of the big site manage to do it ((-:

[taz44]

thought,
i am trying to make my site console free so it won't go popopopop when someone enters, but in doing so i need to send exit traffic somewhere(not my own tsp.cgi account)so that i get credit and get some fresh returns also. I realize that exit is shit and i don't mind taking a lesser hit on %, but it has its place for me. Until i find a better way to keep up ratios thats probably what i'll keep doing. Any thoughts?

[mortanius]

I thing opening a persons site in an exit console without there permissions is a complete sham. But opening and exit console to yoru own sites, that has links to other sites, i think is totally legal.

[Rimmer]

No question exit traffic has its value.

But the value of it is a very tricky parameter. Fortunately UCJ-C measures traffic quality and will repay exit traffic at its worth to the site.

But is its value worth the bandwidth you use. As it is CJ sites can be quite expensive on bandwidth. It really does cut the margin further if you start dealing in extremely poor quality traffic.

Personally I don't feel like paying the extra bandwidth bills for that kind of traffic. But then each to their own. But if someone supplies exit traffic without asking the site owners consent then this is cheating.

Rimmer (author of UCJ/UCJ-C)