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[sergy]

Hi!

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Just try at least for 1-3 days to see that it work better than any other dialer that you used before! It's not only advertising words..... ;)

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Regards and Good Luck!

[candidpublishinginc]

If I'm not mistaken....isn't top dialer an auto dialer?

TIBS is a good dialer though.

[DialerNET]

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
If I'm not mistaken....isn't top dialer an auto dialer?
TIBS is a good dialer though.

Yep.. This dialer they're pushing now is an auto dialling PoS and exactly what causes the dialer industry so much trouble.
Why any reseller or webmaster would even consider taking the risk with something like this is beyond me. With all the problems you people have had getting paid in the past, you still do stupid shit like this!
Do you really think that the telcos will pay out on this dialer? Do you really think this dialer is going to be around very long?
Then you'll be the first to whine when you get "ripped off thousands of dollars" again.

For Christs sake people, when will you start using your brains?

Jason.

[Tobbe]

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
If I'm not mistaken....isn't top dialer an auto dialer?

TIBS is a good dialer though.

Topdialer is not auto dialer its an exe dialer just...
:bounce:

[sergy]

Yes! Topdialer is not auto dialer! And yes - TIBS dialer is GREAT dialer! But i like their both :bounce:

Only dialers with great conversions - http://www.dialerprofits.com/

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by Tobbe
Topdialer is not auto dialer its an exe dialer just...
:bounce:

Actually it is.

The EXE dialer isn't....but if you use their dialer in Active X mode....it auto dials with no disclaimer. I would stay away from them or you will get burned.

TIBS is good....stick with them.

[DialerNET]

Originally posted by candidpublishinginc
Actually it is.

The EXE dialer isn't....but if you use their dialer in Active X mode....it auto dials with no disclaimer. I would stay away from them or you will get burned.


Even the exe is when I test it here (Australia). If I run the EXE all I get is an "Authorising" progress bar. It then disconnects my modem and calls it's number.. No warnings, no prices, no nothing.

I really don't know how any reseller could have tested this and not noticed.

Jason.

[Tobbe]

Originally posted by DialerNET
Even the exe is when I test it here (Australia). If I run the EXE all I get is an "Authorising" progress bar. It then disconnects my modem and calls it's number.. No warnings, no prices, no nothing.

I really don't know how any reseller could have tested this and not noticed.

Jason.

is the dialer realy illegal ?...
i have tried it and i will see now i they will pay me ... =)

Cheers Tobbe!

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by Tobbe
is the dialer realy illegal ?...
i have tried it and i will see now i they will pay me ... =)

Cheers Tobbe!

Yes it is. It shows no disclaimer and just starts dialing imediately. This is an underhanded tactic that will cause it to get shut down in a matter of time.

It's a shame that they just won't use standard disclaimers. In the long run they are quite profitable.

Also by not having any disclaimer on the U.S. 900, you are pretty much ensuring that you will make no money because your chargebacks will go through the roof.

[nino2]

Hello, this is Nino.
I can understand why other dialer companies are afraid, but it is not true that the EXE and activeX autodial.
Here is a page with activeX........let me know in what way the dialer would autodial as someone wrote, thanks.
http://www.geocities.com/fender98547/
sorry for the link on geocities, but I like spamming this dialer too.
Thanks
Nino

[candidpublishinginc]

Nino,

That's bullshit and you know it.

I've tried the dialer myself. As soon as I pressed connect it would dial on me with no disclaimer.

I know you're involved with topdialer...and if you know what's best for you...you will have a disclaimer. I'm not saying you should have that huge font price disclaimer crap...but just your standard disclaimer.

Anyway you're going to hurt yourself in the long run. Whoever is fronting your money now will get fucked 6 months down the line.

Hell look at Telcoweb....they went NEGATIVE on their 900 revenues. You seriously think you'll go positive?

Anyway either you are misinformed or you are lying. I hope you'll do some research on this matter and do the right thing.

EDIT: I've encountered two versions of the topdialer. One which had a disclaimer....and one which did not.

Most of the topdialer dialers I see people promoting do not have a disclaimer at all.

[nino2]

From Nino:
so you had to click on "connect" when you tried my ActiveX version with that EXE file.
So it doesn't autodial as you wrote above.
Anyway you should know that it is not illegal in Europe.
Don't be against me......you have known me, thanks, and you should know that all the biggest clients had been asking a dialer exe like mine for 10 months.
And you should know that offering weekly payouts, 7 days after, is the best proof that there is no risk to lose money for all my clients.
Anyway, even if you were right, with weekly payouts the risk is minimum and just limited to 2 weeks minutes.
In exchange all my big clients are getting thousands minutes x day and making huge money paid them without any problem.
Why should big clients lose a such great opportunity and use other dialers where they can get 20% of the calls they are getting now?
I know and tried all the other companies dialers and, trust me, there is 80% difference.
Let me tell you just a last thing, thanks:
Did you forget when big dialer companies (with LEGAL and CORRECT dialers) cheated us and all the clients? Telcoweb, Niteline, GIB, DialerCO etc etc
At the end the story is always the same one.......people working and getting money in dialer industry know how it works.
Then, why don't we have to use an exe like mine, making a lot of money for 6 /8 months? Even using other dialers, then companies won't pay then
Cheers
NINO ICQ 56760850

[DialerNET]

Nino, it saddens me that you're taking this path and are blatently lying about it too.
You know damn well that this is an auto dialer. The dialers I have tested of yours, plus the one I recieved of Sergy never even asked me to connect.. I just ran the exe and it auto dialled immediately.
Don't call me a liar about this. Hell, I'll put a damn video online showinf how it's working if that's what it takes.
As for it not being illegal in Europe, how the hell does that even come into play when I'm in Australia, and US clients are in the USA? It IS illegal there. You have to be compiant in every country it dials and you know it.
Stop playing this game. It's the same old story. 2 months from now webmasters are gonna be whining cos you ripped them off, and they'll blame the WHOLE dialer industry instead of laying the blame where it belongs... on people like you who have become greedy, selfish and short sighted.
You're putting the whole industry at risk with this bullshit, and it won't be taken lightly. There will be actions and repurcussions taken. I hope you're ready for that.

Jason.

[DialerNET]

Originally posted by nino2
I know and tried all the other companies dialers and, trust me, there is 80% difference.


I'm sorry, but I have to respond to this too..
Of course there's an 80% difference.. None of the people know that they are being connected and being ripped off. 80% increase in calls, and 80% increase in chargebacks.
Well done.. That's a great system.
Absolutely foolish.

Jason.

[nino2]

Here is a page with activeX........let me know in what way the dialer would autodial as someone wrote, thanks.
http://www.geocities.com/fender98547/
sorry for the link on geocities, but I like spamming this dialer too.
Thanks
Nino ICQ 56760850

[DialerNET]

errr.. Nice copy/paste of the exact same message you wrote above, Nino.. Yes I tried, and yes it autodialled me in.
What the hell are you trying to achieve? You want me to close my eyes and pretend it does something else?
*blink* You're losing the plot.

I'm going to bed.. Wierd dreams make more sense than you right now.
If you're still denying it in the morning, I'll post a video of what happens for all to see.

Jason.

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by nino2
Anyway you should know that it is not illegal in Europe.


Saying that autodialing isn't illegal in Europe is an ignorant statement.

It's illegal in Germany, Netherlands, and many other countries that have domestic routes.

Countries that don't have domestic routes and have international routes assigned instead,well there's no law against autodialing there but if you do autodial it's going to generate quite a lot of complaints until the termination is dead.

Take Denmark for example. They have all common international routes BLOCKED. That means you can't terminate to Sao Tome, Guinea Bissau, Solomon Islands, Wallis & Fortuna, or any of the other high paying terminations. The only routes that are open are United Kingdom, Antigua, invoice billing, and a few others. The UK and Antigua don't give great payouts and invoice billing is tricky to do well. Plus if they get complaints on those number ranges....they will simply block those ranges rather than the whole country.

France and Greece have also closed terminations in the past.

So your telling me that autodialing is okay? Right........you'll just fuck up the termination for everyone.

The MINIMUM that should be done is at least stating that "INTERNATIONAL CHARGES APPLY" somewhere in the dialer like the status bar. Although complete disclaimer in addition would be nice too.

Also I've had the dialer auto dial for me in the U.S. and DialerNET mentioned it auto dialed for him in Australia.

In Australia (as well as the U.S.) that is without a doubt illegal. Furthermore, thanks to bullshit like this Australian data routes are going to be cut in August for everyone! Thanks a lot for fucking over another route.

Also I'm not against TOPDialer because they're competition. If that were true, wouldn't I try to say unpleasent things about TIBS too? They are competition after all. But the reality is that I have nothing but good things to say about Peter. His dialer is top notch and his new $1.49 U.S. route is quite revolutionary.

The bottom line is I'm not trying to use liable against TOPdialer. I'm using facts. They are breaking the rules just like Varadox did. And we all remember what happened to Varadox right?

[candidpublishinginc]

Well I just tried Nino's dialer and here's what I found,

After I pressed YES to the active X screen and went thru the authorization screen I saw the following:

http://www.candidpublishing.com/temp/dial1.jpg

As soon as I clicked connect I saw the following:

http://www.candidpublishing.com/temp/dial2.jpg

It just started to dial. No disclaimer or anything.


I don't think Nino is aware that it auto dials, otherwise he wouldn't have shown that dialer to us.

In fact when I run shortcut that Nino's dialer made, it shows the disclaimer fine. It only auto dials when you run it via the active X installer for the first time.

What top dialer is doing is intentionally deceiving webmasters and resellers. Top dialer is also fucking themselves over in the long run because no one is going to pay their 900 number phone bill and they are fucking their competition by killing dialer routes.

Varadox pulled the same shit....look at them now. Topdialer will follow their footsteps soon enough if they don't change their ways.

[DialerNET]

As an aside to what Candid just posted, when run, I never even saw the first screen.. As soon as I ran it, it displayed just the second screen posted by Candid, "Authenticating", and instantly dialled me in. I didn't even have a "Connect" button to press.

Jason.

[candidpublishinginc]

The bottom line is to avoid this scamming dialer like the plague. They won't be around for much longer.

Also it looks like it acts a little differently for the U.S. than for other countries.

For the U.S. it has a connect button and when the user presses it, it auto dials with no disclaimer.

But for people in other countries (Dialernet is from Australia) it just starts dialing, no warnings. TOPDialer and other scammers are the reason why domestic australian routes are going to get killed in August. This is 100% illegal and violates australia's TISSC regulations for pay per call numbers. Thanks a lot you scumbags! Even if you aren't from Australia you have to comply with their rules since you're using THEIR DOMESTIC numbers.

[Marco]

I just read some rumours on GFY that Topdialer has been busted by the police.
I don't know if it's true but some webmasters complaining that they have not been paid for while.

Hopefully anyone else has better sources to confirm ?

Marco
info@codialer.com
ICQ 29151164

[DialerNET]

We've had several webmasters come to us complaining about not being paid by them too. Many also stating that all they see when logging into the stats now is "Server too busy" - no matter what time of the day they try.

hmmmmm..... well THERE'S a surprise :rolleyes:

Jason.

[candidpublishinginc]

Originally posted by DialerNET
We've had several webmasters come to us complaining about not being paid by them too.

They shouldn't complain. They should have EXPECTED it sooner or later.

Even if the rumors of TOPdialer going tits up aren't true, it will happen sooner or later if they continue with this practice.

[candidpublishinginc]

I have confirmation that TOPdialer was raided by Interpol and their bank accounts have been frozen.

Crime doesn't pay. For those of you who got fucked. Play on the right side of the law and signup with Dialernet. His dialers are ethical and all of the dialers he offers are top notch.