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xxxwebhosting.com
07-21-2001, 12:15 PM
More good reasons to move off of NSI / Verisign ASAP. Networksolutions has now stepped up its efforts to make registar transfers difficult to prevent people from leaving them.

Letter from OpenSRS:

Greetings -

Please find following an update on OpenSRS.

1. Tucows' response to Verisign's transfer allegations
2. Tucows power outage this weekend
3. .info sunrise account update reminder
4. Tucows Tribune link

1. Tucows' response to Verisign's transfer allegations
-------------------

As you may have heard, Verisign has filed a letter of
complaint with ICANN, colouring the increasingly large
number of transfers away from Verisign as fraudulent, and
characterizing the behavior of competing registrars
(including Tucows) as 'slamming' (a term used by
entrenched Telcos when describing spurious practices of
emerging competitors in the telephone business).

These accusations have been shaped in such a way that
they present a small portion of the facts, and interpret
them in a way that favours Verisign's business practices.

Tucows needs the support of our Reseller channel to
elucidate the actual issues in the face of obfuscation
and this questionable interpretation of data.

We are composing a response to Verisign that will consist
of both legal action and media coverage, highlighting
what we believe to be the salient issues:

1. Tucows' policies on transfers are effective, fully
compliant with ICANN regulations, and consumer friendly.

2. Verisign refuses to acknowledge resellers or even the
wholesale model, and misrepresents their current market
share as the result of consumer choice, and not their
long standing monopoly; they continually act in a way
that directly attacks resellers, who have provided and
continue to provide a large majority of name
registrations.

3. In some cases, end users trust their service providers
to select suppliers; that is a part of the value they
provide.

4. This 'muddying' of the issues has been deliberately
orchestrated by Verisign as a result of their
declining market share in the registration business -
essentially, the reality that the majority of their
revenue is not earned by offering any true value but
is leftover from the monopolistic advantage that they
enjoyed for years

This is a call to arms for all resellers that believe in
our position to take action! Please help us by:

a) sending concise accounts of NSI issues to
denied-transfers@tucows.com

b) sending correspondence to ICANN at comments@icann.org
articulating your position

c) educate your customers about these issues; an informed
registrant population will not be fooled by these
tactics.

Further, William Walsh, a Tucows reseller, has drafted a
wonderful response that is completely compatible with our
position. He points out the flaws in Verisign's logic,
and highlights many truths about the domain landscape
(the primacy of the ISP, for example) that Verisign must
ignore to make their position defensible. We join William
in asking any interested Tucows resellers to 'sign' the
petition and add weight to our case.

William's letter may be found at:

http://www.userfriendly.com/transferletter.html

Verisign's original message to ICANN may be found at:

http://www.icann.org/correspondence/cochetti-to-lynn-16jul01.htm

An excellent article that outlines our position may be
found at:

http://www.internetnews.com/isp-news/article/0,,8_805601,00.html

toker
07-21-2001, 04:05 PM
I already posted this info yesterday for william you really should catch up on things.

e-van
07-21-2001, 04:28 PM
Well, I could bet that NSI's processing of new domains is under 1% of what it used to be, so they are living on their rebills... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif their site is not converting anymore,LoL...

toker
07-21-2001, 04:48 PM
Fuck this ashole after my post he send me a URL over ICQ to try and crash my system ProgGod saw the URL also i showed it to him as a witness and then the fucker sends me one of them wonderful trojans in my email about 2 mins later.

He used an email on my site aparently which is only used for bad link reporting and would not be in any mail clients as its not used for any outgoing mail period.

I dont reccomend anyone have any business dealings with such an unprofessional webmaster / host whatever he may be. I also hope he learns not to pull this crap on others i have all the data including IP to the site the pages with his wannabe popup exploit and the exploit sent via email have all been saved.

Details of the mail are below for everyones referance of his childish bullshit.

Return-Path: <wmagee1@houston.rr.com>
for <*/My-Private@Email*>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:28:57 -0400
Received: from sm10.texas.rr.com (sm10.texas.rr.com [24.93.35.222])
for <badlink@wildteen.net>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 14:19:16 -0700 (PDT)
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Received: from ICHwm316303.shell.com (cs241627-213.houston.rr.com [24.162.7.213])
by sm10.texas.rr.com (8.12.0.Beta5/8.12.0.Beta5) with SMTP id f6LLRfu3002771
for <badlink@wildteen.net>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:27:42 -0500
Message-Id: <200107212127.f6LLRfu3002771@sm10.texas.rr.com>
From: "william magee"<wmagee1@houston.rr.com>
To: badlink@wildteen.net
Subject: xmas99
date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:34:05 -0500
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This guy seems to feel threatened somehow by the post i made earlier obviously and cannot act in a professional manner.

pooky
07-21-2001, 06:27 PM
That was the lamest thing I have ever heard....its a good thing I got my shit off there when I did....man who knows what goes on there.

shunga
07-21-2001, 06:45 PM
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by toker:
This guy seems to feel threatened somehow by the post i made earlier obviously and cannot act in a professional manner. </font>

You have the wrong guy, toker.

toker
07-21-2001, 08:18 PM
Wrong guy huh?

He friggin attacked me because he claims hes almighty host with "over 25,000 adult sites" which i highly doubt he would be lurkin around my sites if such were true.

Then has the nerve to tell me he sent me to unclosable popup hell because a toplist that was in my profile had 1 enter and 2 exit consoles. I did not ask him to click it he took it upon himself and im shure it did not hurt him. Howerver its my site if i wanted 20 popups i could do just that and note the consoles were not unclosable.

I have our entire conversation from ICQ where he kept pestering and harrassing me about this issue after i told him to go away many times. It sounds pretty bad comming from a person in is so called STATUS as a business professional of his size.

Wonder what would happen if i flooded this info around the net because i happen to know quite a few people who host with him. I also know the only reason they prefer him is his referal deals.

People like him think because they were picked on all their life and now their money or status means shit however they have no knowledge of the people i know or what i can do. I would love for this prick to take a trip to miami and suffer a severe ass beating...Now thats fuckin REAL!

Where i come from we back down to no one and we play for life so you can live the life and hate the game but in the end its all the same. We all go sometime and when you fuck with my family or my business you better have your fuckin bags packed.


See you in hell asshole!
Kindest Regards,
toker

Coke
07-21-2001, 08:38 PM
Now, I might be a little slow, but who are you referring to?

toker
07-21-2001, 08:42 PM
Mr Reliablehosting