Thinking of starting my own board [Archive]

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 01:55 PM

Since go fuck your self has came arround, people are mad at everybody who post usefull information and anythign that is non bs . GFY and AWI now are still good for entrentainement but not good to get good answer and tips . I'm thinking of starting a password protected board where there will be no BS ... No jokes no crap . I know it won't get all the attention and the friendship it have there but when you will need some kind of information you will get it . All would be moderated and somes users would get somes access to moderating . (Like irc access 100-500) . Do you think it would be usefull or a waste of time of my part ? Spam would be also barely accepted like in case of people selling their sites or having good job for webmasters . There will be NO dialer sponsor talk on this board .

I really don't like the attitude of the people here... as soon as somebody is trying to sell a site or something he get bashed . As soon as somebody gives out an information he get bashed .

I still learn a lot from here and will learn I'm not talking of leaving the board just add another one with limited access ... It could be also an idea of tim for this board too . Anyways just say what do you think of this idea and if you are pissed off just say :
I don't think that will be a good idea and WHY ... don't start bash on me like I've seen on most of the others threads .

Pinox

11-29-2001, 02:07 PM

Dre? Sounds like a good idea but is this board open for everyone or just for "big players"?

I ask this because i have the strongfeeling that ony if your site is big enough you count here. The smaller guys dont count.
I dont se myself as a "newbie". Im in this bizz for 2,5 years now and did several things.. a AVS site, several TGP's so i know how to run sites.. the only problem is that i dont finish things because i want to much at the same time. And (im very honest with this) i dont know how to get a TGP started. I mean how to bring it to lets say 100K.
I dont have thge connections, and im not the person who asked for favours and ask for help easely.

I do things my own way. They dont work always, but i learn from that, simple. But when i ask for some tips, then i dont want to have the feeling that they dont take me serious only because my TGP is only at 12K 15K a day (UCJ Stats).

On this board are some very helpfull people like Spycam, Sandman, Jenny, Marina and a couple of others. But when i see that this board has ober 1700 members then its a shame that the rest are full of bullshit.

So when you want to open a board then you have my blessings.. not that you need that but okay.

Anal Hobbit

11-29-2001, 02:11 PM

Sounds like a Soviet's only Board!

What will become of AWI?

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 02:13 PM

Originally posted by Pinox:
Dre? Sounds like a good idea but is this board open for everyone or just for "big players"?


Board open for almost everybody ... No stupid questions will be allowed tough like on : How do I make money or how do I get traffic ... Only some kind of medium level newbee would be tolerated . But if you have 5000 hits and you are not asking questions you can read on everysite and that are very basic you are more than welcome :)

Originally posted by Pinox:

I ask this because i have the strongfeeling that ony if your site is big enough you count here. The smaller guys dont count.
I dont se myself as a "newbie". Im in this bizz for 2,5 years now and did several things.. a AVS site, several TGP's so i know how to run sites.. the only problem is that i dont finish things because i want to much at the same time. And (im very honest with this) i dont know how to get a TGP started. I mean how to bring it to lets say 100K.
I dont have thge connections, and im not the person who asked for favours and ask for help easely.


You don't have to have tons of traffic to make money ... Wizd0m was making a living with 4 kids on 2k SE traffic ... all you must know is how to use it . We can't judge the people on the ammount of traffic they have but on their knowledge .

Originally posted by Pinox:

I do things my own way. They dont work always, but i learn from that, simple. But when i ask for some tips, then i dont want to have the feeling that they dont take me serious only because my TGP is only at 12K 15K a day (UCJ Stats).

That is WHY I'm thinking starting the baord . There is too much disrespect .

Originally posted by Pinox:

On this board are some very helpfull people like Spycam, Sandman, Jenny, Marina and a couple of others. But when i see that this board has ober 1700 members then its a shame that the rest are full of bullshit.

Again that's why I want to start this board ...

Originally posted by Pinox:

So when you want to open a board then you have my blessings.. not that you need that but okay.

I don't really want my own board . I don't need to feel powerfull and own a big ressource or something . It could be a sub board here that I and some others guys menage or something .

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Anal Hobbit:
Sounds like a Soviet's only Board!

What will become of AWI?

lol boneprone you are a funny guy but that's what I don't want in the board sometimes ... More a buisness board than other things . We are trying to move thing and get something build .

Check out what came out of GFY so far ? NOTHING !!! NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING only cheating free hosts ...

What came out of awi ? Cj, Cj2, Trading tgps and Tgp2 .

PC brought tgps and picpost if I'm not wrong ...

GFY is becomming the biggest board but it's all useless

Iceman

11-29-2001, 02:20 PM

I would like a special password protected board....
as i started my site, AWI was very helpfull to get good tips, but know there is so much shit....
i often dont read many posts, cause of all this unusefull topics.

;)

filipes

11-29-2001, 02:24 PM

Doctor,
If you want to buy something to eat and some newspapers etc. You'd rather go to the supermarket(where is all together) or go to news-stand than go to bakery than to butcher .... (where you must walk trought whole city)
I think most people go to the supermarket.
(i mean that if you make a specialized forum, there will be a few men, who come once a week and maybe answer 1 or two questions)

(sorry for my bad english it's not my native language :o)

xApster

11-29-2001, 02:33 PM

I would say have the board open to everyone so that you can make some good advertising money =)

But limmit who can post ... that way people can share in information but no retards can just come and cause some shit

SpyCam

11-29-2001, 02:35 PM

I totally agree with Dre.
Wasn't i the one who asked for a board for big jerks only?
all of you were against that idea...

but big jerks aren't the ones who have the biggest sites or posted hundreds of posts here...

in my opinion, big jerk is a webmaster who can not only read and talk shit, but who can explain things himself and help others using his own experience..

And i would suggest DrDre to give entrance to the special board only for big jerks or those who can not only read and ask, but also help and explain things too

My thoughts.
judge yourself

SpyCam

11-29-2001, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by xApster:
I would say have the board open to everyone so that you can make some good advertising money =)

But limmit who can post ... that way people can share in information but no retards can just come and cause some shit

Well, you aren't right :)
Let's say we wanna discuss how to prevent hitboting - every hitbotter can go and read aour thoughts and start hitbotting us using new techniques before we implemented that :)

I mean we should have a circle of trustworthy webmasters(mistresses) who could share all they want

:P

Rockys Porn

11-29-2001, 02:51 PM

i think you can get useful information here, at GFY, Porn Matrix, Porncity and TGP Owners

sure people fuck around, but don't you remember how hard it was just to get a little bit of info 4 or 5 years ago, before the time of all these boards

it's a nice gesture to want a Utopian BBS, but the reality of life is that things are always in flux and what may start out as being a board solely for information will quickly turn into a place to fuck around as well

we are human after all...at least most of us
:D

magnatique

11-29-2001, 03:04 PM

a board without fun? nah, won't work.

the thing is not to limit people to post only useful stuff. it's not to ban people from making useless remarks.

it's for people to actually go the extra mile and help people.

take any thread here..

get nobody replying, you'll see some useless crap, and people will start bashing and making fun of themselves.

but see 1-2 guys giving good remarks, helping the guy out, then you'll see that thread will come into a useful thread... it's the people that makes a board, not the rules.

I can get all the info I want from awi or GFY because when I ask, I always get a few people knowing who I am and giving good answers... and I don't get angry from people saying useless stuff..

get that from the poster, and get the people from the board WANTING to help, that's what will work..

Not rules.

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by Rockys Porn:
i think you can get useful information here, at GFY, Porn Matrix, Porncity and TGP Owners

sure people fuck around, but don't you remember how hard it was just to get a little bit of info 4 or 5 years ago, before the time of all these boards

it's a nice gesture to want a Utopian BBS, but the reality of life is that things are always in flux and what may start out as being a board solely for information will quickly turn into a place to fuck around as well

we are human after all...at least most of us
:D

That's what I'm saying ... Auto-Mod ... No talk shit

As for the making cash shit, that's NOT the point of it ... I don't give a fuck about making 100 $ a week from a board . All I want is information to be accessible...

Spy yes that's a good idea . Come and talk to me on icq we could get some things up me you and maybe wizd0m if he want too.

munchkin

11-29-2001, 03:14 PM

I think it is a great idea. But if you only make it for big jerks why don't you contact each other on icq? I think that big or little every one has opinions, ideas and are generally helpful but if you give it time you are going to see the same old shit the bitching the fighting I don't think you could really get away from it unless you ban people or make a password but then you should just make an msn chat room or use icq.

-munchkin
:)

magnatique

11-29-2001, 03:15 PM

btw, I'm not saying a new board is not a good idea, just saying you got it all wrong as to the helping factor ;)

can't say a new board is not a good idea, I'm getting my own out soon :)

gse

11-29-2001, 03:33 PM

Originally posted by Pinox:

On this board are some very helpfull people like Spycam, Sandman, Jenny, Marina and a couple of others. But when i see that this board has ober 1700 members then its a shame that the rest are full of bullshit.


who are those couple of others? haha

magnatique

11-29-2001, 03:43 PM

I didn't make the list LOL? oh well :)

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 03:48 PM

k :)
Well the principe of a board is to get informatino no ? here it's hard to get some ...

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 03:50 PM

But it wouldn't be for big jerks only ... But no beginners . You can work part time on your sites and have experience or something :)

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 03:51 PM

Originally posted by magnatique:
I didn't make the list LOL? oh well :)

lol you should be one of the first :)

magnatique

11-29-2001, 03:53 PM

actually, dre, the only purpose of a board is to network... give people something to do..

to get steam off work..

Help is an addon sort of... and that's what builds some people's credibility and reputation... and then, some guys learning from those people will feel they owe 'em something.. it's all about network really..

what do you expect from gofuckyourself...

check the name lol..

but info there is, just more shooting the shit..

gse

11-29-2001, 03:54 PM

not a bad idea, btw

it's so freaking hard to get useful info on these boards. make it password protected but free of course.

tgpdk.dk

11-29-2001, 04:03 PM

I agree.. or make it possible to IP-ban idiots on this board... Why make a new, when w can improwe this? Make 5 people supermodorators, and then make it possible for some of the other goodguys to remove messages and bann Lusers

gse

11-29-2001, 04:07 PM

ip ban? haha
say I'm on ameritech dsl and they have class B, how you gonna ip ban me?

make board with double door - regular password plus second that you change daily by cron or something.
idiots will never get it

SpyCam

11-29-2001, 04:11 PM

we should not give access to unknown persons and persons with no contacts or other personal info

and surely webmasters would need to pay for getting help :D LOL - it was a joke :)

dplaymax

11-29-2001, 04:30 PM

dr. dre - contact me - let's talk on icq/aim about this idea of yours - we have some ideas that maybe we can work together on :)

xApster

11-29-2001, 05:03 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre:


... I don't give a fuck about making 100 $ a week from a board . All I want is information to be accessible....

HAHa 100 a week! Tim probably brings in around 10k a month from this board and GFY probably more.. boards are very proitable if you get it big.

Wizzo

11-29-2001, 05:14 PM

Boards are the "watercoolers" for Adult Webmasters, not the classrooms. Like Mag said, they're great places to network.

Plus, Moderating a board can be a big pain somtimes, but good luck if you do decide to do it. :cool:

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 05:19 PM

Wizzo I won't be alone ... I'l be with big boys .

erotictrance

11-29-2001, 06:00 PM

I dunno. I get a lot of useful info from both boards, and ignore a lot of the flame wars, etc. that's not useful ...

Besides, both boards have search functions that help you search posts on whatever topic you need help on ... and most people have been pretty helpful when I've posted questions ...

There's so many boards now another would probably get lost in the crowd ....

mukoh

11-29-2001, 06:22 PM

I think Dre has a good idea.
The boards GFY, AWI, are becoming nothing but flame wars, people with fake nicks, and multiple nicks, just wasting time and space.

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 06:23 PM

Well right now I talked to a lot of big boys and they are mostly all interseted... Most of big boys (the ones that make great living on porn) would be moderators . There would be no banners for a while . When it's gonna be big enough we are gonna put somes and re distribute the money direclty to all moderators so like that it will stay non bs and people will stay on the board .
What do u think of it ?

richard

11-29-2001, 06:32 PM

The idea is sound, but ditch any advertising.

Make it an invite only/application based, $ subscription based private board.

Got a domain name in mind?
http://www.fucknewbies.com/

hehe :)

Wizzo

11-29-2001, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by Doctor Dre:
Wizzo I won't be alone ... I'l be with big boys .

I'm not really sure, what this means? But again good luck...I wasn't trying to be a dick, I was serious. :)

Juggler

11-29-2001, 06:49 PM

Dr Dre Great idea and I hope you get it going 2 things pop to mind I personally think Richard is 100% right it should be invite/reviewed application only and new webmasters should be viewed as a resource and the applications scored on what they can offer to the board.

The board should be closed to non members but you should also have a open board for anyone this will hopefuly have 2 uses 1 newbies/part timers will be able to take advantage of the members knowledge and 2 watch for new possible members who are helpful.

It would be great to have a board without the BS

Juggler

11-29-2001, 06:52 PM

Richard I would rather it was called:
http://www.fuck-people-who-have-nothing-to-share-but-a-lot-say.com

mxmx

11-29-2001, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Juggler:
Richard I would rather it was called:
http://www.fuck-people-who-have-nothing-to-share-but-a-lot-say.com

or
http://www.traffic-cartel.com

:)

magnatique

11-29-2001, 07:55 PM

wizzo is right... it's painful at times..

but you get used to it ;)

boneprone

11-29-2001, 07:58 PM

Fact:

If it aint entertaining people wont come.

You need something to keep the people coming back.
People just dont naturaly wake up in the morning and say "hey Im gunna log into the BBS and see who I can help today"

Most people would avoid going somewhere with tons of qusetions asking for help.

Unless you plan to pay people to treat your new board like a help desk, or answer every webmaster "realted" question yourself the questions arent going to be answered.

People wont regularly tune in to you BBS cause there is nothing but questions, and questions will go unanswered.

To have such restrictions on a message board not only sounds boring, it sounds like a place people would visit maybe once or twice, and only to post a question.

Unless you plan to hire help desk people I dont see anyone but a small handful of people and Soviets hanging out there.

And thats the bottom line cause boneprone said so.

BJ9

11-29-2001, 08:04 PM

Originally posted by boneprone:
Fact:

If it aint entertaining people wont come.


I'd visit Dr Dre's board, in fact I'd pay a fee for a membership. He knows his stuff and I think a lot of good information would be passed.

boneprone

11-29-2001, 08:05 PM

What serious questions dont get answered here or at GFY? IT seems only the stupid fuck questions dont get answered.

The majority of the posts on these boards may be off topic, but the ones that are posted are answered unless its just to damn stupid to respond to. (which is what i see a lot of)

If ya have a question post it. It will get answered. If ya need more intamiate help try investing in icq.

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 08:08 PM

There will be no cost ... I'm with a guy devlopping a script to give the user a right from 100 to 500 .
100 = Small webmasters, access only
200 = webmasters with little experience . Right to post in a few forums
300 = Normal webmasters that work full time
400 = Moderators
500 = Board admins

Something like that . It should be ready in few days . Post some other ideas here .

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 08:10 PM

And there will be NO cost ... I don't mind to spend few hudnread bucks on hosting to get this buisness going well ... Nothing better are comming except CJ nowdays.

boneprone

11-29-2001, 08:13 PM

you expect him to answer everyone's questions?

If he doenst mind spending a good part of the day answering all these questions more power to him.

Maybe he should give it a test drive and change his signature on AWI to

"here is my icq number. Ask me any and all webmaster realed questions"

See if he really does like answering multiple questions every day every week, every month.

boneprone

11-29-2001, 08:15 PM

And BJ9, i never said Dre didnt know his stuff.

Im just saying a board with this desired dynamic would be dead.

If you want to really have a network of helping webmasters why not just have icq?

Most if us do.

BJ9

11-29-2001, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by boneprone:
And BJ9, i never said Dre didnt know his stuff.

Im just saying a board with this desired dynamic would be dead.

If you want to really have a network of helping webmasters why not just have icq?

Most if us do.

Oh, apologies I didn't mean to imply that you said anything. I love both GFY and AWI my questions have always gotten answered and I dont expect Dre to answer all my questions. I prob wont even ask any (if he lets me in).

And I agree with what you say, one of the best things about GFY and AWI is how busy the boards are. You say something and get 2 a response in seconds and that's cool.

But there are some occasions where top webmasters shoot the shit and throw out some golden nuggets that I learn from, and Dre's board would just be another opportunity to get more nuggests.

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 08:28 PM

Bone I talked to wizzo elron xapster, spycam, wizd0m and few other big boys ... For moderating .

I think that's a good start :)

boneprone

11-29-2001, 08:28 PM

I could see it doing ok if he had a boneprone family section.

Other than that I wish the big guy luck.

Dre, youre gunna need it on this one.

Boneprone - The Master of the BBS Dynamic

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 08:42 PM

lol seriously I'm thinking of adding a public forum only for general talk and fights . then the rest will be protected

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 09:14 PM

seriously so far everyone seems to be enthousiast about it . I got arround 40 persons that contacted me today on icq to get access to the board :)

harvey

11-29-2001, 09:40 PM

Hey Dre, it seems like an idea, I thought on something like that some time ago, but it didn't seem to me like it would work. Anyway, it's nice if you can make it work, however I think there's a need for "entertaining" posts.

Another thing: How will webmasters join the board? They must be known by you and/or mods, they will need known sites or what? I really don't get it, but I guess you must have something in mind

Anyway, good luck on this

Doctor Dre

11-29-2001, 09:56 PM

Harvey I'm building a ressource site like sponsor watch but more extended in the front page . The board will have a signup form and I will need to talk to you in order to be accepted to the board . People will contact me over icq or by email and I'l have a chat with them before so they will know the rules of the board and I think that if I know everybody there will be less shit .

harvey

11-29-2001, 11:46 PM

Wow, that would be some work! ;) Well, again, good luck indeed and I'd suggest you to find a more efficient way or you'll go nuts in a week! :D What about signing with a domain name and a mail address on that domain? Just an idea

Doctor Dre

11-30-2001, 12:10 PM

Harvey I've tough of a concept ... right now we will be running on a php script that we will modify with the day . The moderators will be paid of the advertising so like that it will always keep big boys in the club ... GFY is paying for crap we will be paying for quality .

The php script is almost ready to start now working on the password protection .

run

11-30-2001, 12:48 PM

who the fuck is gonna read 3 boards now?

GFY and AWI is more than enough for me.

run

11-30-2001, 12:52 PM

listen to boneprone he seems to know what he's saying. He does nothing else but keep bullshitin' on boards so he's an expert

theo

11-30-2001, 03:11 PM

Dre, as i told you on icq is a nice idea and worth a try. If you want any help on some task just message me :)

anything that does not include the word dialer starts getting value, when there's will the value increases and when a topic on AWI reaches two pages it has a point :)

mukoh

11-30-2001, 03:42 PM

Yeah. I definately think boneprone family is in definate need of another board to materialize all the other identities that have been used on GFY and AWI with nothing but making posts that are useless and are totally out of content.
Dre. I will catch you up on ICQ too tonight.

Thanks

Brian911

11-30-2001, 03:51 PM

I think its a good idea, I`m the most medium-level non-trashing non-spamming newbie you can think of ;)

I hate GFY for all the senseless threads and replies there.. AWI is rather well-mixed but not very helpful unless you ask for something specific though.

private access is a good idea,too to keep some :mad: sort of people out probably

theo

11-30-2001, 03:54 PM

GFY is fucking around board, but whenever i asked for help i got a response in few minutes. But don't expect serious responses on subjects like this posted on GFY few min ago:

Hi, I just got an email spam by some dude and I signed up for the aff program. Now I would like to buy 1 of their good software(it seems to be)but I'm not sure it will work or not. Has any one here used it and what's the result??? You can check it out under my sig if you don't know what I'm talking about.
Thanks

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/icons/icon6.gif

diesel

11-30-2001, 04:18 PM

This is normal that in such a field as Adult Biz some elite clubs/boards will exist.Go for it Dre ..

Doctor Dre

11-30-2001, 04:34 PM

Yep ... Lens is paying for crap ... He makes tons of bucks . I'm not going to start this board for cash . I'l redistribute the cash to quality posters :)

Doctor Dre

11-30-2001, 04:45 PM

Aiight check how the board will work ... At first there won't be any prizes . This board is not made to make money and give shit like the others but to get quality posts and content ...

When we will sell spots the moderators will get a big part of it to be there (mods are mostly guys that get 500k + or that have a lot lot lot of knowledge) . They will be paid to stay there post etc. When the board will make some money .

Somebody is presently working on the board script ... There will be different level of access to the board :

100 = Small webmasters, access only
200 = webmasters with little experience . Right to post in a few forums
300 = Normal webmasters that work full time
400 = Moderators
500 = Board admins

Also for the normal posters (200-300) they will get free content when they will make very userfull posts (We will give out a few a weeks) .

But that will be when the board will be well started and when it will make revenue from advertising . That's what I tough so far so the concept is better than any other boards so far to me . What do you think we should add / remove ?