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Arkira
03-12-2002, 05:44 AM
Okay, let's get it straight !<br />All of you guys keep complaining all the time how you don't make any money and shit !<br /><br />Do something about it !!!<br /><br />Everyone knows it's not the TGPs that are killing the living of the webmasters !<br />It's those damn newbies who don't know shit about webmastering, and THEN start giving out free content in order to get traffic !<br /><br />And you can thank yourself for the hordes of newbies around !<br />You gotta stop talking shit like: "Damn, earning money off the internet doing porn is soooo fucking easy!".<br /><br />That shit has caused us to be spammed with 100's of new webmasters every week.... No shit, you guys are loosing money !<br /><br />So, to get and end to this subject once and for all:<br /><br /> STOP FUCKING HELPING AND NEW WEBMASTERS ! WE ARE ENOUGH AS IT IS RIGHT NOW ! <br /><br />just my two cents

Arkira
03-12-2002, 05:48 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Arkira:<br /><strong><br /> ... HELPING ANY NEW WEBMASTERS ... <br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Rene A
03-12-2002, 05:59 AM
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genomega
03-12-2002, 06:43 AM
Everyone knows it's not the TGPs that are killing the living of the webmasters !<br /><br />The HUN and a few others "are" killing the living of the webmasters...<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Kappy
03-12-2002, 06:53 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Arkira:<br /><strong>It's those damn newbies who don't know shit about webmastering, and THEN start giving out free content in order to get traffic !<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This is exactly what TGPs do!<br /><br />Ask your friends from where they get their porn, Paysites or TGPs????<br /><br />TGPs are the killer! No Paysite can offer daily 1000 new pics and another 1000 new videos!

Arkira
03-12-2002, 07:03 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by genomega:<br /><strong>Everyone knows it's not the TGPs that are killing the living of the webmasters !<br /><br />The HUN and a few others "are" killing the living of the webmasters...<br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">TheHun has always been around, he's not the major issue here !<br /><br />It's the newbie's tgps ... You can only blame yourself for helping them into this biz !

Arkira
03-12-2002, 07:05 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Kappy:<br /><strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Arkira:<br /><strong>It's those damn newbies who don't know shit about webmastering, and THEN start giving out free content in order to get traffic !<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This is exactly what TGPs do!<br /><br />Ask your friends from where they get their porn, Paysites or TGPs????<br /><br />TGPs are the killer! No Paysite can offer daily 1000 new pics and another 1000 new videos!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Might be, but I don't say to my friends: "Hey, making money on porn is fucking easy, you should start some tgps !" !!!<br />I'm not saying you do that, but lots of people here do when they brag in front of their freinds, or try helping new commers out ...

efp
03-12-2002, 07:27 AM
Arkira,<br /><br />Newbies are not bad itself, everyone started at some point. I'm sure you have not been born as a Webmaster. Each of us is in some fields a Newbie, I don't know about you Arkira, but I was in the field of TGP working for some time, and then I did some Dialer Work, it was a complete new World for me, that was also a lot of time ago, but I still remember it. It's not that you reach one time the Level of Webmaster and you will be respected by everyone, in every field you need to work to get this level.<br /><br />Also, if Newbies are destroying your businesses, then mostly because you only help them out a bit. If you tell people exactly how this business works, then there would be no issue of this thread, but sadly, there are many people out there, that are not interessted into newbies, and therefor they may answer 1 or 2 questions of them, and all the other questions the newbie needs to figure out on his own.<br />In my opinion this is the problem.<br /><br />greetings,

Arkira
03-12-2002, 07:36 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by efp:<br /><strong>Arkira,<br /><br />Newbies are not bad itself, everyone started at some point. I'm sure you have not been born as a Webmaster. Each of us is in some fields a Newbie, I don't know about you Arkira, but I was in the field of TGP working for some time, and then I did some Dialer Work, it was a complete new World for me, that was also a lot of time ago, but I still remember it. It's not that you reach one time the Level of Webmaster and you will be respected by everyone, in every field you need to work to get this level.<br /><br />Also, if Newbies are destroying your businesses, then mostly because you only help them out a bit. If you tell people exactly how this business works, then there would be no issue of this thread, but sadly, there are many people out there, that are not interessted into newbies, and therefor they may answer 1 or 2 questions of them, and all the other questions the newbie needs to figure out on his own.<br />In my opinion this is the problem.<br /><br />greetings,</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Of course, there should always be some new people around, but what I mean is that right now, the stream of new webmasters is to high, and we can't compete ... The market is getting overwhelmed !<br /><br />I do help newbies out sometimes, but I'm careful what I say. Eg, the other post where everyones talks about how the tgps ruin the show, some guy posted that we should all make cj2s and that was much better and bla bla bla ... BAM ! Now we're gonna have cj2 newbies all over the floor within seconds !<br /><br />If you have been in this buisness for some time and can't figure out what to do to get money these days, I would strongly recommend finding another job !

DK?
03-12-2002, 07:49 AM
My take on the "Not making as much as we used to" situation is:<br />Back in the day the majority of sites and CJ's were multi-window popping, no content having, browser crashing, banner farm, surfer hells. This caused the surfer to "almost" want to sign up to a nice clean paysite.<br />Now hell, even the CJ's have turned into CJ2's with content and there's an assload of TGP's out there for him/her to get there rocks off.<br />If I were a porn searching surfer, why the hell would I want to spend money on a paysite? Im so comfortable at any one of the numerous 1000 free pic daily updated TGP's, Ive practically thrown the credit card away and used the saved funds to purchase "KY jacking-the-dick cream."<br />I say we go back to treating the bandwidth hogging bastards like shit.<br />Why the hell should I foot the bandwidth bill just so you can get your rocks off?<br />Either click a banner or get the fuck off my site!<br /><br />[these are only my views/theories, and in no way have they been proven to be neither fact nor fiction]

a2000
03-12-2002, 08:01 AM
Darwin<br /><br /> <img border="0" alt="[Hi]" title="" src="graemlins/hi.gif" />

Arkira
03-12-2002, 09:54 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by a2000:<br /><strong>Darwin<br /><br /> <img border="0" alt="[Hi]" title="" src="graemlins/hi.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

SexySites
03-12-2002, 10:47 AM
hmmm the only problem is that until everybody changes back to the old days then there is not going to be much difference...for instance if people start moving away from TGPs ..then people will think its good to make TGPs again since there will be less of them around and people will go to these TGPs ...<br /><br />catch 22<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> <br /><br />laters,<br />Chris

Happy
03-13-2002, 02:10 AM
You're damn right, Arkira! I never tell newbies it's easy, cause it ain't, it took me many months to figure out how to make a good buck in this industry, and of course I still miss many tips to push higher. I don't do tgps or give away free content, and I even hate to give away free 3 day trials without being paid, cause I don't like surfers to get access to free porn even for 3 days (and then cancel and already know by now how it's inside a paysite), never post to the hun or other big tgps, cause they ruin the industry, and if other webmasters would do the same (which they won't) we would get easy signups like back in the old days. I know things evolved, but I keep up with the new times very well, in the last months my earnings increased steadily, and I just wish other people think about not giving away free porn. <img border="0" alt="[No No]" title="" src="graemlins/nono.gif" />

efp
03-13-2002, 03:29 AM
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Happy:<br /><strong>I never tell newbies it's easy, cause it ain't, it took me many months to figure out how to make a good buck in this industry, and of course I still miss many tips to push higher. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Happy, you are so right! It's not easy to make a good amount of money in this industry. you can easily make 100 bucks a month, by doing a AVS and promoting it well, and then do nothing anymore on it, i still receive cheques from that, even if i did not do AVS for months ...<br />But nobody can live of 100 bucks <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br />It's really hard work to make a living out of this industry, you need to do a lot of stuff, and invest a lot of time.