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linkspider
12-01-2001, 08:50 PM
would you like to autoset homepages, auto bookmark your viewers browser as many times as you like, would you like to auto set your viewers search page and use a pop-up console that's invisible to your viewers - even when every window is closed. These's scripts cost hundreds of pounds. What I have that others don't have is the source code for these gems. Would you like to use and view these scripts and see how they work? - of course you would. The ultimate gorilla marketing package. Contact me on ICQ 12681755
linkspider
12-01-2001, 08:53 PM
remember that these scripts can really piss people off and should not be used on traffic trades....or should they?
manga
12-01-2001, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by linkspider:
<STRONG>would you like to autoset homepages, auto bookmark your viewers browser as many times as you like, would you like to auto set your viewers search page and use a pop-up console that's invisible to your viewers - even when every window is closed. These's scripts cost hundreds of pounds. What I have that others don't have is the source code for these gems. Would you like to use and view these scripts and see how they work? - of course you would. The ultimate gorilla marketing package. Contact me on ICQ 12681755</STRONG>
Idiot :rolleyes:
WiredGuy
12-01-2001, 09:06 PM
It's scripts like yours that give the adult industry a bad name. With just consoles and popups we already have a bad name, with these scripts, forget it :-)
WG
linkspider
12-01-2001, 09:16 PM
Don't you think I'm fully aware that these scripts are evil...
Manga - Like your Jesus Christ Returned. Fuck Wit.
man, you are good
how many viruses and exploits you put on your page? haha
linkspider
12-01-2001, 09:38 PM
At the end of the day I think blind linking and circle jerking is enough to piss someone off. But why should webmasters have to pay $400 dollars for these scripts...If you've got it share it...
manga
12-01-2001, 11:01 PM
Idiot
toker
12-01-2001, 11:06 PM
Sure make it readly available cause any fucker that uses it will show his true colors in this biz real fast. This way its quicker for me to know who is gonna cheat me and fuck my traffic great idea. :D
Time to break out the blacklist once again!
WiredGuy
12-01-2001, 11:17 PM
Well, are you offering them free at least or do you plan on selling them to us or trading it for something?
WG
munchkin
12-01-2001, 11:18 PM
Originally posted by manga:
<STRONG>Idiot</STRONG>
I am with you! why would you want to piss people off...maybe you are in the wrong business.
:rolleyes:
-munchkin
playa
12-02-2001, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by linkspider:
<STRONG>. These's scripts cost hundreds of pounds.</STRONG>
thats some heavy scripts :D
DemonWolfe
12-02-2001, 03:54 AM
ha ha ha...
Playa, your a riot!
Ummm, I got this exact message spammed to me on ICQ.
Dcorp
12-02-2001, 04:51 AM
:D
linkspider
12-02-2001, 05:45 AM
At the end of the day we are all in this business to make money; I have made a large investment in my Internet business and want it to be a success – I want some return for my capital outlay. But lets face it how many people who visit TGP boards are looking to sign up for a paid membership and actively use dialers? How many times have you been cheated by a sponsor? How many times have you read NO CJ’s in our sponsor program? Indeed TGP’s and CJ’s appeal to those looking for free content and control large volumes of traffic. But at the end of the day the traffic never converts in large numbers. On my site it converts like 1:1500 - and how many hits do I have to have on my page to get a visitor to click my sponsors link – 1,000,000 perhaps? You have endless rules to abide by for trading and keeping your sponsor happy and indeed rules are okay – there has to be some common agreement. I try damn hard to keep to the rules, give fair trades and never cheat my sponsors but how many people do cheat? My blacklist is longer than my trade list. How many times have you read Auto trades closed due to cheaters? ICQ me for trade’s. People start cheating because they are either greedy or just can’t make an honest buck.
I have signed up for hundreds of trades and only once or twice have I got more traffic back than I send from a trader. I send out a total of 2000 and get back between 500/800 in trades. I run a clean board but the majority of my traffic comes from search engines not trades.
I have been in this business for a number of years but have only just invested in UCJ in the last 6 months and started trading traffic. I’m a newbie and therefore treated like a punk, I get shit traffic back from trades, if I even get traffic back, its non-productive and my sign up ratio is extremely poor. Basically I’m running at a loss.
On the plus side I have some good friends who really help, give me tips and advise and share programming tricks. My little group of webmasters I think are honest and reliable which is pretty amazing for this industry as these personally traits are known as character faults in this business. Adult Webmasters make money by fucking each other; and when you find someone that’s doesn’t want to fuck you then that’s special.
All that said, let’s get onto the point. Gorilla marketing. Now it’s not the most honest, friendly or ethical way to make a buck and by no means do I agree with it, well no more than I disagree with it. I started this topic because I wanted to talk about this subject. But, for some reason I have started an attack from other webmasters about talk of blacklists and cheating. I don’t use these scripts on my trade pages.
I started this topic because I wanted to share my programming skills and introduce my team of programmers, designers and marketers to this board. We are a pretty shit hot team, even if I say so myself. If you need a solution, which involves gorilla marketing, then we can provide it. I’m not saying it’s right anymore than I’m saying its wrong; it’s your prerogative. I would prefer you respect our ability rather than jump the gun and bitch about us.
I wanted people to contact me by ICQ so I could at least question your motives rather than just post the code onto the board. If I make some money in the process then that’s great, if I get some traffic or an exchange in code then better. If I give the code away and make a new friend then so be it.
What I don’t want is other webmasters to hunt out these scripts from javascript achieves to only find them available from one place www.trixscripts.com (http://www.trixscripts.com) and this guy will charge you for them – hundreds of dollars from what I’ve mentioned above. And the reason why I don’t want you to use him is simple – he will fuck you and fuck you proper. He encrypts the code that he sells so the average webmaster can’t read it. A prime example would be the ‘ultimate pop-up window’ ideal for CJ sites where pop-ups are allowed. This script creates an invisible pop-up window that the end user cannot see on the taskbar. It’s a pretty cool bit of code.
Did you know however that www.trixscripts.com (http://www.trixscripts.com) encrypted code changes the search page of the users browser to one of his sponsors? This is just one example of cheating. He makes you pay for the code and then cheats you by stealing your traffic!
Luckily he’s a pretty shit programmer and his work can be decoded in all of two minutes. We have exposed him for the bloodsucker that he is. We have updated his code, enhanced it and made it visible to read and share…
WiredGuy
12-02-2001, 06:35 AM
LinkSpider: My apologies. By the nature of your post it appeared you were trying to sell these scripts here. I misinterpreted your post, and you have my apologies. In regards to your big long post, you are absolutely correct. The market has too many rules, too much free traffic and no real common ground between the webmasters and the sponsors. There are various guerilla marketing tactics that are available and I employ a few myself in relation to search engine marketing. It has brought down the signup ratios to about 1:60 for 2nd page uniques. Before everyone rushes to ask me what it is, sorry, it's just that, a guerilla marketing tactic and I need to keep it secret to remain competitive. There are many out there that can really take a sponsor page and convert it and that's just what I did, modify the sponsor page a bit, host it yourself and I managed to change a 1:300 to a 1:60 or so. Not bad and it does work. I am more or less objecting to bookmarking scripts, to autohome page resetters and anything else that annoys the user too much, but there are other non-intrusive tactics which can be used to gain a competitive edge. As to what they are, they vary from any aspect of marketing.
WG
Easy_R
12-02-2001, 07:20 AM
Originally posted by linkspider:
<STRONG> These's scripts cost hundreds of pounds. </STRONG>
These scripts are free on http://www.thecgi.com/
linkspider
12-02-2001, 08:26 AM
Indeed the add to favourites script is here, but not the autoset homepage, invisible popup window or autoset search page scripts.
manga
12-02-2001, 03:58 PM
Most people here were able to get their hands on these scripts over a year ago when they first showed up on one of the freehosts. As I remember it was a race to see who could unscramble it first when Richard gave us all a little tip on how it was encoded. By the end of the day everyone here had the script and was using it on their sites. This lasted a few days and then there was a huge backlash against it so everybody stopped using them. Anyone who continued using these type of scripts after that was considered a cheater. You can find it all by searching this board.
If you're an honest webmaster then I apologize for calling you an idiot. But by coming here and offering these scripts you look like a cheater and a newbie. So, since I consider cheaters to be idiots, figure it out. Whether you are honest or not, well, time will tell. Hopefully you're honest.
dezCount
12-02-2001, 09:36 PM
With the exploit in VM with IE5 you can change everything on the users computer, as you actually is able to gain full access to his drives and windows registry.
And if you have ex. your own dialer dialin number, you can even change the users default dialup number to be yours.
The most webmasters only use the autobookmark, and even less use the auto startpage, but try to think on a visitor sitting at his desk at work, browsing some sites, shuts down the computer, and then a coworker turns on the computer and starts IE, and gets a sexsite in the face - the day after the actually innocent surfer gets fired from his job because of this autostartpage script.
That isnt that very cool - and It happend to me amoung others........ :o(
So think of the consequences it might have before using it...
just my 2 cents...
/dez
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