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boneprone
11-08-2001, 03:24 PM
Hello Soviet Webmasters of The AWI Board!

I have a question for you Comrads!

Its about sites like this http://161.58.136.44/index.html http://130.94.145.66/hot/index.html http://130.94.145.42/cool/index.html

Cheaters?


I have ucj on some sites, and I have these guys using autosignup with me and I know they have to be cheaters or something.

They all have the same site layout exactly, but all use numbers for their url, and all send traffic, and all show quality clicks cumming in as well! But something tells me they are cheats.

Are my assumptions right? If they are cheating, how the hell are they showing the 300% quanity?

This is one nice hitbot!
http://161.58.136.44/index.html
munchkin
11-08-2001, 03:30 PM
they are cheaters.
I don't understand it either cuz it said the same thing on my site the just feed you fake traffic I guess. :(
boneprone
11-08-2001, 03:31 PM
heres another!
http://morefuck.net/best/index.html

and another!
http://bigsexportal.com/fave/index.html


all gotta be cheaters.
munchkin
11-08-2001, 03:32 PM
yeah all those guys were on my site I had to blacklist them. and even after they were gone it took so much time to get my hits back up. :mad:
ragnar
11-08-2001, 03:34 PM
are you drunk or what why are they cheaters
ragnar
11-08-2001, 03:35 PM
i can't find anything in their source
Dcorp
11-08-2001, 03:37 PM
Originally posted by boneprone:
<STRONG>Hello Soviet Webmasters of The AWI Board!

I have a question for you Comrads!

</STRONG>


the first thing that associated was RED ALERT 2 (game) when i saw "Comrads"

I like Soviet's Accent
ragnar
11-08-2001, 03:38 PM
found it already to fast reading hehe :D http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=010642
boneprone
11-08-2001, 03:39 PM
heres another.
Fuck Ive been giving thosands of hits a day to these fuckers.
http://usexylover.com/teen/index.html

Shit try clicking on the links on these bastards sites.. They are popup hell.

How do we avid this shit? Cant black list em.. They use a different url every time!


Do we have to shut down our autosignup all together?
Dawgy
11-08-2001, 03:47 PM
Originally posted by boneprone:
<STRONG>Do we have to shut down our autosignup all together?</STRONG>

i'm considering doing just that.
playa
11-08-2001, 03:47 PM
they cheated all my sites to,,
them fuckers,,,
it looks like they found a way to cheat UCJ sites
boneprone
11-08-2001, 03:53 PM
they cheat em real well.
The "quality" of traffic looks to be insane!

Shit, this is a good hit bot.
Could someone sell me one?
boneprone
11-08-2001, 03:54 PM
fucking Soviets!
ragnar
11-08-2001, 03:57 PM
option 1: put them in an iframe all you americans togheter and you get them down

option 2: disable your auto-sign page
ragnar
11-08-2001, 04:05 PM
option 1: put them in an iframe all you americans togheter and you get them down

option 2: disable your auto-sign page
XP
11-08-2001, 04:08 PM
Originally posted by boneprone:
<STRONG>fucking Soviets!</STRONG>
Hey! I don't like russian guys too, but we can't say "All russians are cheater"
maybe %90 of cheaters, but not at all
boneprone
11-08-2001, 04:23 PM
Same with Turkey.
CM
11-08-2001, 04:42 PM
LOL! i totaly agree ;)
BFFR
11-08-2001, 05:28 PM
boneprone:i can easly say that
same with USA..
i know tons of Sponsors from USA that doesnt pays -haha sad but true.. :)

and & and we understand that you dont like SOVIETS but if you have time please explain us what means SOVIET.. :D

i think we can talk about webmasters but WE CAN'T BLAME ANY NATION,ANY COUNTRY...etc.

BW. ;)
XP
11-08-2001, 05:35 PM
boneprone: all of my customers knows me. And mostly from USA LOL :)

This summer will be great, would you like to come Turkey? :D
Sexyland
11-08-2001, 05:46 PM
Its a new hitboot or clickagent from russia which is sending hits to your site which makes clicks.This hitbot of tons of proxies and also send the traffic during the hole day to your site so it would be very difficult to see them cheating.You can also say the % of the diffrent countries at your traffic you are "sending" out.


Sexyland
Backov
11-08-2001, 06:25 PM
There is a really good hitbot running around out there, cheating UCJs left and right. I assume you have to be 1337 enough to get on the proper IRC channels to even hear about it..

It's easily defeated by watching the number of proxies.. Tim needs to add that to UCJ pronto. There's also some other stuff that can be done to detect them.. In any case.. &gt;25-30% is suspicious (with statistically significant traffic) greater than 50% is a sure cheater..

Cheers,
Backov
mukoh
11-08-2001, 06:28 PM
Thanks for the quick up Backov. I saw that yesterday and was pretty surprised at the click percentages with that one.
Exxxotica
11-08-2001, 07:05 PM
Hello Comrad Boneprone!

Ive been getting fucked by these guys too, I hated to do it...but I had to turn off my autosignup.

Just when your traffic levels out because of the hitbot, a fucking beastialiy CJ site will sign up.

Will it ever end??? I think not.
boneprone
11-08-2001, 07:23 PM
since when have you started to dislike anamals?
Backov
11-08-2001, 08:26 PM
I've just passed on the proxy detection algorithms I have whipped up to Tim, so hopefully he will incorporate them into UCJ and we can all live in a better, happier, hitbot free world. ;&gt;

Cheers,
Backov
Exxxotica
11-08-2001, 08:35 PM
Originally posted by boneprone:
<STRONG>since when have you started to dislike anamals?</STRONG>

Even since the time you f%$#&d my dog!
RodeoCowboy
11-08-2001, 08:52 PM
Yeah this fucker is definitely using a hitbot. He keeps signing up with ucj sites under different domains or sometimes just an ip address. All his sites are hosted by verio.net. Simply deleting him and/or banning his domains is not enough. The next day he simply signs up with another domain or ip. To stop this guy everyone should write to verio.net and advise them that they are hosting someone is committing fraud and threaten legal action against verio.net if they don't do something. Hopefully they will pull his server.
RodeoCowboy
11-08-2001, 08:58 PM
send your emails to abuse@verio.net
mukoh
11-08-2001, 11:46 PM
RodeoCowboy.
Get off the crackpipe guy, hitbot is not illegal, just like an offline browser is not illegal. You can write until the cows come home, he is paying them for bandwidth.
Sexyland
11-09-2001, 05:50 AM
Sorry dude to use a hitboot at our CJs is illegal cause at our rulez stays very big NO HITBOOT.He is usin this resource in a negative way so it ilegal.

@Backov i think its not enough what you do cause you can add so many new proxies as you want.

Sexyland
Yassen
11-09-2001, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by XP:
<STRONG>boneprone: all of my customers knows me. And mostly from USA LOL :)

This summer will be great, would you like to come Turkey? :D</STRONG>

... and do what? fuck goats and listen to fucking prayers in 6 am

FUCK THAT SHIT
mukoh
11-09-2001, 03:43 PM
SexyLand.
Thats the point and distinction I don't think you are able to grasp at this time.
Our rules internal for Cj2 Cj traffic trading sits have no relationship whatsoever to verios hosting and their policies. And suggesting that Verio is going to care that he launched a hitbot which used proxies in other countries to use on our sites, Which in turn drove traffic to his site is foolish.
You see the difference here, or is Verio in the CJ2 biz now also.?
Inde
11-09-2001, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by boneprone:
<STRONG>heres another.
Fuck Ive been giving thosands of hits a day to these fuckers.
http://usexylover.com/teen/index.html

Shit try clicking on the links on these bastards sites.. They are popup hell.

How do we avid this shit? Cant black list em.. They use a different url every time!


Do we have to shut down our autosignup all together?</STRONG>


Just check the possible cheaters board every day. All the sites that were cheating you had already been posted on that board.

I'd hate to close my auto signup page. That's how I get 95% of my trades.