What would you pay for a program that compressed your webpages, and protected source?

[michaelw]

Im working on a new program now that compressed HTML webpages (making them 40-70% smaller), and encrypts them, so when someone views the source they get a bunch of garbage charachters. It currently works with IE and Netscape, im working on Opera support now. Anyway, the only setback to this is you need a javascript enabled webpage (but then again, whats a CJ without javascript http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif ).

What do you think it would be worth?

BTW - its not done yet.. ill have it rready within a month or so

[Bullet]

I think a lot of people would buy something like that. I'd sell it for anywhere between 50-75 dollars. But I'd have to test it out first.

[RaiDeN]

Yup defenitly buy here.
The money would be earned back fast in datatraffic.

btw thats can make you a rich man dude

make sure you do it right. if everyone starts using it your rich

[RaiDeN]

but doesn't your program start decoding the site when a visitors sees it wich makes server loads higher?

[Arthur]

I suspect you'd be re-inventing the wheel. There are already a few sites doing this, with C-style decoding routines built into the web page's html, invariably for nefarious reasons like hiding auto-bookmarking script.

I haven't yet come across any that haven't been trivial to reverse though, so unless you're onto something new, I wouldn't advertise it as entirely secure.

Good luck though, all the same.

[michaelw]

you decode the pages before they are uploaded http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[gse]

not sure would be much use for it. To protect the code? Yes to protect the design, maybe. But if say I encrypt the code for engine spiders and they will get bunch of 'charactors' won't do me any good on engines. In this case you need to use ssi to fetch real unencrypted page to the spiders and encrypted to the real people. Sounds complicated, but what do I know

[MrNice]

I'm using WebMinimizer to "compress" webpages, and it works very well for me, and it's $15.

As for the encryption feature I think that could be a very nice thing, as long as it doesn't slow down the loading too much.

I wouldn't sell it for 50-75 dollars though, but hey that's only me, and I always under-charge my products http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Anyway, I think it's a great idea, good luck.

[Cyberzen]

Um you're developing this encrypter in javascript? What about those surfers who has java turned off? About 20% surfers lost there.

[michaelw]

yes, but then theres always the "if java is not enabled, go here" thing. Also, a user with javascript is pretty useless in a CJ site..

im thinking of selling it for $40..

[Arthur]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by michaelw:
you decode the pages before they are uploaded http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

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Sorry, I'm not clear on that. Could you clarify please?

[Zyber]

michaelw, that program is a good idea but I do not think that you will succeed in making a stable and fast product, since you are basing it on Javascript. Javascript uses a lot of CPU power and will therefor slow down the page. Not to mention browser compability issues.
But anyway good luck with your programming http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

If you make a good product then it will be much more worth than $40.

The problem is that the decoding needs to be done client side and there aren't any fast and stable technologies build into browser that will meet your needs. Correct me if I'm wrong http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

/Zyber

[Energy Hosting]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zyber:
The problem is that the decoding needs to be done client side and there aren't any fast and stable technologies build into browser that will meet your needs.

/Zyber</font>


Are you sure about that? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Please turn on your bandwidth usage logging program and load http://ww5.energyhosting.net/speedtest.html in your browser.

You will notice that the page is 416 Kb in size (you can find that out by right clicking the page or saving it to your hard drive) while you only downloaded 120 Kb.

Are you a believer now?

[Rodent]

Energy I am guessing that is mod_gzip for apache? That mod works wonders for compressing .html and .php

[trip]

Look at www.TrixScripts.com/scripts21-30.html (http://www.TrixScripts.com/scripts21-30.html)
at script #26 - Html Encryptor, it has a compressed/encrypted demo page to view the encrypted source and its $50 by CC.

my 2 cents http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

[Zyber]

Energy, sure mod_gzip is a great tool for compressing data transfer http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

I was only focusing on the encrypting part though.

trip, I have to correct you. That script is not an encryptor - it's an encoder. So the source is not secure and it is easy to write a script decoding it.
But I must admit that the script is the best attempt so far for solving the problem with securing HTML content.

Just wanted to get that straight ;-)

[Arthur]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by trip:
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Even a tech-savvy surfer will find it very hard to decode!/B]</font>

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[mistman]

i know other programs that encript html pages but they dont allow you to use any other javascript.
If it did allow use of more javascipt would this be encripted/decripted too?

How strong will the encription be?
Too strong and too much processing power will be needed. Too weak and decrypting tools will become availiable in seconds.

I think you're doomed before you've even started.
erm... Good Luck anyways =)

[michaelw]

ok.. im almost done..

will be selling for $40.

please email me at bimages23x@hotmail.com if interested

[Ty]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by michaelw:
ok.. im almost done..

will be selling for $40.

please email me at bimages23x@hotmail.com if interested</font>

Hey Michael, if this script is javabased then just forget it. I tested java based script to cut down html for like 40%. But guess what happened, my productivity felt for like 30%! (becouse pages are loading slower and surfers click STOP button...or just close the page etc.)

If it's not java based then it should be worth some money, do that test with productivity!

[richard]

Even a tech-savvy surfer will find it very hard to decode!

we are not talking about surfers, we are talking about other webmasters.

[Arthur]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by richard:
Even a tech-savvy surfer will find it very hard to decode!

we are not talking about surfers, we are talking about other webmasters.</font>

You missed something here, richard. That top quote is from trip's spiel for his product at trixscript, not michaelw's claim.

Or are you speaking for trip? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif