Vector-Force is so overrated!

[mechadennis]

I don't know about the rest of your hosting experiences but in my first attempt to acquire an adult host was a rotten experience.

After reading many message boards and whatnot I decided to go with Vector-Force because apparently no one has a bad thing to say and their support is touted as unmatched. Well allow me to be their first critic.

For the last 2 days I've been trying to sign up for hosting but their e-mail is god awfully slow, no one answers their phones, and their 24 hour ICQ support is more like 4 minutes in the early morning when I'm asleep! When I did manage to talk to Don on ICQ he took my phone number and said he'd call me shortly, needless to say I am still waiting for that call. I'm glad everyone else has had such a positive experience with them but apparently new customers aren't worth much.

Since I am once again on the hunt for a host, could someone recommend a good place to house a first site? Thanks.

[kong]

Maybe lack of support is because of the holiday?

Im not in the US so I dont know but my admin isnt answering the phone either.

Kong

[Tam]

I work for Vector.. if you can page me on icq at 423517, I am sure we can figure out what happened here. I won't bring Vector's business here but I will be happy to try and resolve any problem you may have had. I can assure you that whatever happened is not the norm and not something we practice.

Thanks,
Tam

[Tam]

And Kong is right.... it is a Holiday for me..... but just to show you that I never ever take a day off, I am here for you guys.... as always. LOL

Tam

[richard]

http://www.isprime.com

i've a couple of domains with them now, and so far so good with tech support.

I send a message over icq with my request, and if the guy is online, its done within minutes - small stuff like new domains, email addys, module installation, etc - but its the best service i've ever had http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif.

B/W price ranges from $2.20 to $3 for a virtual account, their dedicated server prices rock some ass too.

Starting @ $700 entry server with 1mps, for another 2mbs you are only paying $500 more, good deal http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif.

www.isprime.com (http://www.isprime.com)

*thumbs up*

Rich.

[stepin]

Give him or tam a shout i use vector-force and they have dam good service far as i am concerned they may be slow because of holidays but i wouldnt put my money sites any where else http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by mechadennis:
I don't know about the rest of your hosting experiences but in my first attempt to acquire an adult host was a rotten experience.

After reading many message boards and whatnot I decided to go with Vector-Force because apparently no one has a bad thing to say and their support is touted as unmatched. Well allow me to be their first critic.

For the last 2 days I've been trying to sign up for hosting but their e-mail is god awfully slow, no one answers their phones, and their 24 hour ICQ support is more like 4 minutes in the early morning when I'm asleep! When I did manage to talk to Don on ICQ he took my phone number and said he'd call me shortly, needless to say I am still waiting for that call. I'm glad everyone else has had such a positive experience with them but apparently new customers aren't worth much.

Since I am once again on the hunt for a host, could someone recommend a good place to house a first site? Thanks.</font>

[xwebdesigner]

vector-force is the biggest scam in the hosting bizz. There are tons of host out there that have just as could services with much cheaper prices. There prices are the most expensive I have ever seen, don't be fooled by them everyone that works there says there prices are high becuase they have the top speeds and 99% uptime, what a load of crap its just a huge ripp off to pay the prices they have stay away from vector-force.

[Tam]

xwebdesigner, hmm... well looking at your profile I see YOUR site is down at the moment........ I see you are NOT hosted at Vector Force or you wouldn't have this problem............

http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/tongue.gif

Sorry, I couldn't help myself. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Tam

[xwebdesigner]

lol my site isn't even uploaded yet but nice try

[Tam]

Well ya have to admit you did leave that one wide open.........

And don't go taking offense either.... I am just playing wit ya..... each and every person has a right to their own opinions and have their own preferences and loyalties........

I just couldn't pass up a good zing....... I am a woman, I am not stupid... LMAO

Tam

[mechadennis]

Thanks to this post I talked with Tam then Don and now everything is perfect. Vector seems as good as gold. May my previous comments be stricken from the record! Vector-Force is so underrated.

Hmmm, this complaining in public thing sure seems to work, I've got to try it more often... My girlfriend doesn't put out enough! She's overrated!

[Tam]

mechadennis......... rotfl

Oh GOD don't go there.. as a woman I would strongly advise you NOT to go there....... it works with us but it won't work with that situation as well. LOL

And I knew it was a matter of everyone being in different places all at once....... http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif If you ever need anything you now know where to find me........ http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Tam

[bigdog]

vector force has the best damn fucking support

[freap]

i have 4 domains there and have yet to a single problem

[thewatcher]

I use XXXwebhosting.com =o) sorry Tam i do.. I have 3 domains under them and in the next month or more ill have 5 more added.

[playa]

xxxwebhosting is the best http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

i love their no downtime warranty

[Tam]

Watcher.... babe, you don't have to use what I use.. you should know me better than that by now babe......... and I have no qualms with xxxwebhosting..... I just don't happen to work for them.......... and I personally prefer Vector........ even before I started working for him. But who you host with doesn't change the fact that I luv ya to pieces. lol

Tam

[Bullet]

I'll agree that vector force charges quite a bit more than other companies. But they have 24 hour monitoring of down times, and the one and only time their servers were down for me, they got them back up in only a few minutes. Unfortunately that isn't the case with a lot of hosting companies.

But if you want to run a good sized cj site, you might be better off using isprime, although I don't use them myself.

my two cents, but vector force is no doubt top quality.

[mukoh]

Here is the thing with hosting, Do you want hosting where it is 2 guys who bought some rackspace at a coloco center? Or do you want hosting from a pro company that has access to backbones in 4 corners of the country? Research your host, all these new hosts that don't have 800 numbers, no 24 hour REAL support by phone, REAL office, are all bullshit and are a flash in the pan. Research your host ok? You are putting your business into their computer, and most likely from what i have seen 80% of the hosts out there that people in the adult biz use are nothing but a guy whose part time job is to try to make some money on bandwidth, with his own webhosting.
Isn't it kind of close Tam?

[Tam]

Yup I would totally agree mukoh. People think providing hosting free or paid is such an easy thing to do and it's not, it is ALOT of hard work and you have to know that 24/7 we have basically their lives in our hands. Some people, me being one, do this fulltime and they depend on the money they make just to eat. So the bottom and very first line to doing this is having a good host. Without a host we are ALL screwed.. and who wants to deal with some joe blow that just thought "hey, it can't be that hard, let's start a hosting company and make some big bucks" because they see that the bills some of these guys pay for hosting are HUGE and how expensive can it be to run a hosting company.

Well I think they all need to know it is very expensive if done right...... it is also way more than just money, it is being able to make damn sure those machines stay up and running at all costs, because when that machine goes down, so do alot of people sites and lives. I have seen alot that know the kind of WORK is involved going in and they do a damn good job of it. But I have also seen alot that think it is a snap and open a hosting company not thinking things thru or preparing for things like machines going down, backbone problems...... shit half of them don't even know what a backbone is when they go into it.

THEN they get hit with the bandwidth bills themselves and they totally freak......... yeah they buy it in bulk but it's alot different seeing the bandwidth bill on one site than it is on hundreds of sites. I can't tell you how many have come to ME and had opened a freehost... gotten their bandwidth bill and realized they went in the hole in a major way because they had no clue what was going to have to go into a hosting company. It's sad really.

But what alot of people that decide to run a hosting company need to do is research, see what is going to go into it on a monetary level, a WORK level and well... on all levels. That's why some of them never make it, they think they can charge a buck a gb and open it, take the clients and just watch the money fly in the door, it so doesn't work that way. It is a 24/7 job and you ain't making jackshit if your clients sites are all down all the time and the tech support sucks ass.

I can tell you this much right now....... until I started working for Vector, I had NO IDEA of the time, money and the work that goes into this. I don't run the company, and I don't deal with the things he does. But I can tell you this much, I would never want to be in the position he is in for a damn thing. It is a constant 24/7 job and is very stressful. All the technical shit involved blows my mind. I know I work for him, but being right up there and watching some of the things that he has to go thru, blows my mind. I know there are other great hosts out there and I am not taking away from these guys one bit, but the only experience I have is with Vector so I use that as an example..... but I have total respect for anyone who can do that job and have peoples lives constantly in their hands and do this good of a job with it.

Just keep this in mind.... YOUR site is down.... well that host has 100 or more other clients, YOU bitch about your site being down, well guess what? So are those other 100 or more site owners..... so not only does the host have to deal with trying to figure out what went wrong and fix it, but they have 100+ webmasters down their throats wanting to know what the hell is going on. Trust me, it is so much better for the host to have a comapny thatis dependable than not......... I know I would break my back to make sure it stayed up 24/7 too, who wants a bunch of pissed off webmasters down their throat? NONE!!!! So the good ones make damn sure they know what they are doing going into it...... LOL

I hope I have helped in some small way to clear some of this up... without a good host we are ALL screwed........ before you get a host, check on them.. make sure they have everything you have to meet YOUR needs..... make sure their tech is good right off the bat... if not then you are going to get screwed in most cases......... make sure they know what they are talking about and do some research. The costs should always be a concern, BUT what are you getting for the price you are paying? I can tell you from experience, I'd rather pay $5 a GB for a GOOD host than $1 a GB for one I can't even reach on the damn phone to find out about their company. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/wink.gif

Yes I went on a rant again but I think some just see costs and run with that and never take the time to honestly check the company out.

Tam

[koon]

TAM ........ my site had been up and down for a day

DON is not reply me on icq ... i think he is on vacation. is he???

please check my site for me ... ohgood.com

[Ludedude]

Well then, Mukoh, can you name more than three companies that aren't just co-located somwhere? 99% of the adult hosting companies, even some of the "big" names are all just colo jobs.

I know that Candid, Cave Creek, National Net and Flash have actual real live datacenters and own their backbone circuits. Most of the rest are colocated at various facilities. That *doesn't* make them bad companies to deal with, provided they have a good support infrastructure and are responsive to your needs.

Tam, does Vector own it's datacenter?

[koon]

hehe he is back from holiday now ..

[alekgreen]

If you are looking for fast reliable servers and great customer support.
isprime.com
is really the best place to host.

[Tam]

Ludedude.. in answer to your question........ Vector, in an effort to keep the overhead down partners with other Nocs with highend backbones. We have shared datacenters in 4 different locations throughout the USA and Canada. For example the datacenter in Canada is shared with AT&T. The datacenters are usualy partnered with only one other firm.

I am not familiar with some of the other companies you mentioned... with the exception of Cave Creek which is also very good. But the point is that it takes more than just buying a machine and setting up and SAYING you are a Host. That I think we can all agree on. I have only had experiences with three other hosts and on each of those I have been lucky, I haven't had to deal with some of the nightmares some of you have had to deal with. This is not to discredit any of the ones listed here.... I am sure they are great hosts... I am just speaking from my own experiences on this one. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

OK did I answer this? LOL

Tam

[Ludedude]

Hi Tam:

As I said, there's nothing wrong with a company that colocates. The real proof of whether they're good or not is in the customer service.

NationalNet is one of the biggest adult hosting companies in the biz, as is Candid.
Flash is also well known, and where I do my hosting.

I'd have no qualms with using a colocated host for any technical reason. As you say, as long as it's not one guy playing host with other people's livelihoods then there should be no problem.

Yes, you answered http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[mukoh]

First thing i will say about my opinion, is just it is mine thats all. BUt when i was with xxxwebhosting, there support was half of anything in the world, couldn't get a straight answer to anything.
I don't know exactly which hosts are run from actual real datacenters, but i can tell you, svwh, is run from a coloco center 100% and others.
One host i use now and am 100% so happy with them is ISPrime, very reasonable prices, and awesome service.