Trafficcashgold (CEN) didn’t pay me my 4500 $

[Rainmaker]

As simple as that. Without any given reason.<br />I have tried to solve that problem silently for 2 months approx. but i<br />am tired of that bullshit replies that they emailed me.<br /><br />I have been working with them for 3-4 months with their signup program and i have only<br />received my first check.<br />I am a serious tgp webmaster, daily i have on average 300K of traffic half of which was promoting<br />their sites. I have ALL the proofs that they didn’t pay me without any reasons – below you can see<br />my daily traffic stats according to sexlist counter and a screenshot of my webmaster account.<br /> <img src="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/sexlist.gif" alt="" /> <br /><br /> <img src="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/trafcash.gif" alt="" /> <br /><br />P.s. – If you think that this may not happen to you – you are fucking wrong. I always thought<br />that sponsors always pay to honest webmasters. Silly me.<br /><br />copy of this msg <a href="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/tcg.htm" target="_blank">here</a>

[High Roller]

maybe you got like 200 signups then 180 cancelled or something, that sucks<br />they have paid me always but I don't make anywhere near that much, they havne't paid in 2 months?

[Racing 3rd Shift]

Post Screen Shots for Nov, Dec, Jan & Feb Totals. You could have got those 200 Gold Bar Points 9 months ago. Who knows?

[Dawgy]

those screen shots prove nothing... your counter stats have the date blocked out, so we cant see that... and the CEN stats are only for 02/18... one fucking day...

[toker]

Jeez all that traffic and only 11 hits to sponsor your galleries must suck balls.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" />

[Rainmaker]

re // Racing 3rd Shift :<br /> <img src="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/sexlist2.gif" alt="" /> <br />For nov. and dec. - approx 4 and 6,5 mln uniques.<br /><br />re // Dawgy & Toker:<br />You don't see any good clicks on the screenshot because it was made today while i stopped sending them traffic for 3-4 weeks or so. The account is live.

[The Dawg]

11 clicks to the sponsor with all that traffic.... Whew, playa you doing something wrong.

[WiredGuy]

Show us some stats from TCG. You claimed they didn't pay you $4500, well, show us you earned 4500, post the last 2-3 months of stats, not one day. Apart than that, what's your site and how are you marketing them?<br /><br />WG

[Rainmaker]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Show us some stats from TCG. You claimed they didn't pay you $4500, well, show us you earned 4500, post the last 2-3 months of stats, not one day. Apart than that, what's your site and how are you marketing them? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">After few post i will have to write the length of my dick and the exact way i shave my beard. <br /><br />The reason why i posted Cen stats is their "Gold Bar points". I have 200 of them and they come for amount of signups you sent them. If you have promoted TCG you would easily calculated my income. My previous stats may give you only the information about my signup ratio and the amount of clicks i sent them, but not the amount of my income. But the point is not my conversion, but my income. Simple.

[WiredGuy]

Well, the 200 points you show works out to 133 signups ~ $4655. What about the site itself, whats your site url and how do you market it? What reason did they tell you for not paying. I've been paid every week for the past 2 years right on time so I find it odd why your having problems. Any of your traffic coming from fraudulent areas (ie: Russia, China?)<br /><br />WG

[Dawgy]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Rainmaker:<br />The reason why i posted Cen stats is their "Gold Bar points". I have 200 of them and they come for amount of signups you sent them. If you have promoted TCG you would easily calculated my income. My previous stats may give you only the information about my signup ratio and the amount of clicks i sent them, but not the amount of my income. But the point is not my conversion, but my income. Simple.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">bullshit. CEN stats show what u have earned & what they have paid. show us the period where you earned the $4655 or whatever and prove yourself. there is a reason you are not showing us the exact stats. nobody gives a fuck about your 11 hits today and the 20000000000 hits you had over some period other than the one in question.<br /><br />get a grip or fuck off.

[Rainmaker]

Specially for you Dawgy (with explanations):<br /><a href="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/tcg2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/tcg2.htm</a><br /><br />Now i am going to sleep. Please save your dirt that you have to pour on me after i wake up. Man can you do it for 6 hours ?

[stramm]

2 goldbarpoints for 1 signup... means 100 signups = $3.5k. You received your first check and if I'm right you earned there $3.5k... so what's the problem.

[WiredGuy]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by easy:<br /><strong>2 goldbarpoints for 1 signup... means 100 signups = $3.5k. You received your first check and if I'm right you earned there $3.5k... so what's the problem.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It's 1.5 points per signup now (or 3pts/2 signups). They lowered it once to make the ferrari unattainable in my opinion :-)<br /><br />Just 128 more years and it's possible!<br />WG

[WiredGuy]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Rainmaker:<br /><strong>Specially for you Dawgy (with explanations):<br /><a href="http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/tcg2.htm" target="_blank">http://www.terra.es/personal7/tcgstats/tcg2.htm</a><br /><br />Now i am going to sleep. Please save your dirt that you have to pour on me after i wake up. Man can you do it for 6 hours ?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ok, now you have my attention. What was the reason they gave for not paying you? Who did you talk to at TCG? My account rep always made sure my payments were right every time so I'm not sure what's going on. Also, your conversions are awesome, what's your TGP?<br /><br />WG

[Rainmaker]

2 WiredGuy:<br />One of the reasons i am so pissed off - it's because i don't even know the reason for not being paid. When this started a while ago i mailed my request to clear out the situation to Chuck to tell me what is wrong. Sometimes i had to mail him 5 times just to get reply like "Ok. I'll definitely clear out that for you tomorrow". Needless to say that i got no reply.<br /><br />After that i contacted Barbara and Mario - i sent them emails describing my problem - but received no reply at all. I did it couple of times and then i mailed a final letter to Chuck in which i have told him that i am not going to leave it that way and my first step will be posting my situation at the major webmaster boards. It WAS NOT unexpected for them.

[Dan S]

I have always been paid by CEN.<br /><br />However, there was one problem a few years back.<br />I have found a good way to convert their site (they still had that 1 free week).<br /><br />I did about $8k in 2 payperiods and they told me they froze the account to check if the signups are valid, CB ratio etc.<br /><br />I didnt count on that money anymore, but like promised they sent me a check over the full amount 90 days later.<br /><br />I think they are getting suspicious on accounts that start to produce like hell all of a sudden.<br /><br />I don`t know the contact any more, that I was talking to that time. But it might be the same reason for you.<br /><br />My advise: Keep trying to talk to them....

[notr]

Rainmaker have you ever sent out Bulkemails to your traficcashgold account?<br /><br />They propably got a few complaints if you did and with those ratios no doubt they would cancel you.<br /><br />But try sending the link to this board to them by email, you will catch their attention. If not I can do it for you.<br /><br />Abby <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

[*Kimmykim*]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Dan S:<br /><strong><br />I think they are getting suspicious on accounts that start to produce like hell all of a sudden.<br /><br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ANY time an acct starts 'to produce like hell all of a sudden' with ANY sponsor, OF COURSE the sponsor is going to take a look at the account. I'm not calling anyone anything here, but the bottom line is that unless a sponsor knows who's sending what traffic, flags come up quickly for large jumps in joins, much better than average conversion ratios, etc. Couple that with fact that CEN pays weekly and I'd bet that every crook in the book has tried to scam them.<br /><br />Your business is certainly your own Rainmaster but personally I'd think about how I came across in my posts. CEN has paid many people on time for years, and has a reputation for that.

[Dan S]

Kimmy,<br /><br />might have been a wrong expression.<br />I have had that CEN account for a while before that happened. I just used it on some avs feeder sites with regular banners.<br /><br />I always play arround with new ideas, like I think everybody is doing. I have found something that was working brilliant with my CJ exit back then. And that was a major jump in signups and traffic.<br /><br />But as I said, they paid me for every signup.<br />And they didnt stop talking to me and explained whats going on.<br /><br />That might not be the case here.<br /><br />Rainmaker,<br />notr has a valid point. Might that be the case here?

[Dan S]

Oh, and CEN is paying non US accounts monthly, not weekly.

[*Kimmykim*]

I didn't mean you personally Dan, don't think that, please.<br /><br />Even our fraud systems are set to look at large jumps in joins, whether it's a site owner or a reseller. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

[Dan S]

I didn`t take it personally. <img border="0" alt="[Hi]" title="" src="graemlins/hi.gif" /> <br /><br />Just describing my personal experience.<br />And it`s an important difference to know that they are still talking to you or not.<br /><br />They didn`t stop talking to me, but they don`t answer Rainmaker. That makes the story quite different. And my "guess" is that this is only half of the story.

[shunga]

Without comment from CEN this is certainly only half the story, but it's quite possible some mistake has been made somewhere, so no assumptions should be made either way.

[flyingiguana]

i had a problem with traffic cash last year. they owed me 70 bux, which isn't much but thank god it wasn't more.<br /><br />they cancelled me saying i spammed. i called a couple times, getting hung up on once. i got someone to check into the situation. a month or so goes by before he tells me they have no evidence that i spammed, but they're not going to pay anyways. he then tells me to start up a new account and start sending traffic while they look into it some more.<br /><br />i wouldn't trust traffic cash at all after that.

[PeepNTom]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by toker:<br /><strong>Jeez all that traffic and only 11 hits to sponsor your galleries must suck balls.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="rolleyes.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">speaks volumes <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />hope you get it all worked out though!

[kmanrox]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Racing 3rd Shift:<br /><strong>Post Screen Shots for Nov, Dec, Jan & Feb Totals. You could have got those 200 Gold Bar Points 9 months ago. Who knows?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">im pretty sure that is what happened<br /><br />i have an assload accumulated, sometimes people just dont notice that they have gold bar points... so im sure it was an oversigh on the posters part

[elron]

Jeez you guys are such an assholes , a person comes here and says he wasn't paid by a sponsor , and all you reply is with BS like "they always paid me" ? what difference does it make if they have paid you ? does it automaticly guarantee you that they pay everyone ? or maybe this guy is just bored to invent this whole story ? <br />Let me tell you this , i personally believe him , and that means that NO MATTER how many people got paid by them and how often they pay . If there is ONE person which they didn't pay , it means they are one big scumbags and should be blacklisted .<br />See , the deffence attorney of a guy who is charged with a murder , will not bring 500 people which weren't murdered by him , to proove his innocence .<br />Now consider that they are not 'per click' sponsors which can claim to recieve crappy traffic , but per signup . which means they have no excuses what so ever of not paying him . unless he deliberetly generated fake sales which i really doubt it .<br /><br />I really hope that you guys will learn from such reports and blacklist the shit out of them .

[flyingiguana]

i wish i still had the emails from traffic cash. but my hard drive kicked the bucket before i could save the emails.<br /><br /> <img border="0" alt="[Repuke]" title="" src="graemlins/repuke.gif" />

[Jimbo]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by elron:<br /><strong>Jeez you guys are such an assholes , a person comes here and says he wasn't paid by a sponsor , and all you reply is with BS like "they always paid me" ? what difference does it make if they have paid you ? does it automaticly guarantee you that they pay everyone ? or maybe this guy is just bored to invent this whole story ? <br />Let me tell you this , i personally believe him , and that means that NO MATTER how many people got paid by them and how often they pay . If there is ONE person which they didn't pay , it means they are one big scumbags and should be blacklisted .<br />See , the deffence attorney of a guy who is charged with a murder , will not bring 500 people which weren't murdered by him , to proove his innocence .<br />Now consider that they are not 'per click' sponsors which can claim to recieve crappy traffic , but per signup . which means they have no excuses what so ever of not paying him . unless he deliberetly generated fake sales which i really doubt it .<br /><br />I really hope that you guys will learn from such reports and blacklist the shit out of them .</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I agree and have personally blacklisted them too but...<br /><br />theres some ways of promoting paysites that shows the surfer how to get into the paysite without having to renew their membership. Alot of free adult passwords kind of sites uses them.<br /><br />Rainmaker looks to use a similar method when I read this: "1) i use advertising in which i tell surfers that after the click he is going to paysite and the trial is bla-bla-bla" on a link he sent for Dawgy. what is interesting in that sentence is "the trial is bla-bla-bla", wich obviously explain the surfer how the trial works <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />That just means that if surfer knows he can cancel and try other sites the recurring of those members will be higly reduced; wich in result won't fill the 35$ standard per member and indeed will cause TCG to loose money over that webmaster promoting them.<br /><br />What is a bad thing about TCG is that they should have arranged a fair way to pay him or even pay him all and close his account.This is why I am blacklisting them, for taking benefits of the promotion rainmaker did!<br /><br />Should or shouldn't I post when stoned?<br />Jimbo

[basschick]

er, Jimbo, when he said blah blah blah, couldn't he simply be telling them what i tell them on search engine listings - the price and how long the trial is?

[Jimbo]

basschick: absolutly, but normally bla bla bla means more then "3 days" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" /> <br /><br />well it's up to rainmaker to tell us... but there's low recurring rates on TCG sides I'm sure. Else TCG are a bunch of idiots!

[Rainmaker]

I was surprised to see that this old topic keeps receiving replies.<br />Now i nearly closed all my problems with TCG. I got replies from everyone at their staff and finally received all answers to my questions.<br />I ask you not to post anymore messages at this topic. <br />I am waiting a payment from them and when i receive it you'll be the first to know.

[flyingiguana]

wish they would have paid me when they found out i did nothing wrong...

[susan]

I am also waiting of money from traffic cash gold<br />(any $1000) I send them 100 e-mails and I get no answer, or they ask me where I am, and what´s my account ID and then they say, they have send the money and maybe it was anything wrong......<br />I think it cannot be that we adultwebmasters are so helplessly and without law opposite so companies and we ever don´t get the money for our hard work we should contact Ed Fagan for collect-complains that so guys are not be longer in our buisness.<br />Amateurpages is the same I am waiting since Jan. of $10.000,- from this company<br /><br />susan<br /><br />hope you can read my Austian Mountain English ;-)

[Rainmaker]

As many of you know i had problems with TrafficCashGold (Cen):<br />i haven't been paid and to solve that i was forced to <br />go public and post my situation at the boards.<br />Finally i received all answers to my questions from them.<br />I have been contacted by nearly everyone at their staff and<br />i must admit that i received all the help that i needed.<br />Now after thorough investigation of my account which took<br />some time all my problems with them are solved and today<br />i have received the money in full.<br /><br />P.s. - now i am going to drink beer<br />P.s.s - after that i am going to make more $$ with them<br /><br />Peace

[SexySites]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Rainmaker:<br /><strong>As many of you know i had problems with TrafficCashGold (Cen):<br />i haven't been paid and to solve that i was forced to <br />go public and post my situation at the boards.<br />Finally i received all answers to my questions from them.<br />I have been contacted by nearly everyone at their staff and<br />i must admit that i received all the help that i needed.<br />Now after thorough investigation of my account which took<br />some time all my problems with them are solved and today<br />i have received the money in full.<br /><br />P.s. - now i am going to drink beer<br />P.s.s - after that i am going to make more $$ with them<br /><br />Peace</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">maybe this thread will finally rest in peace <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <br /><br />laters,<br />Chris