...about keelebay aka syt - EVERYBODY read this

[Smitty]

I was using Keelebay back in May of 2000. He was paying me, or so I thought. He sent me a check for $7000, from HSBC Bank in London. The same bank that he's still using to scam people with. I deposited it, and thought everything was fine. In Decemeber I got a call from my Bank, telling me that a check for $7000 that I deposited in May had been declared 'Insufficent Funds' by HSBC Bank in London.

That's about 7 months later people! SEVEN FUCKING MONTHS!

I know that some of you guys use him, and some of you have used him in the past. If you are like me, and you do plenty of business with your bank, they will always give you the money before the check officially clears. If you did get paid by Keelebay/Syt, or you are currently getting paid by him, as the old expression goes, "Don't write checks against that money." That means that the money might be in your account, but it could be taken out at any time.

You see, the fact that Keelebay/Syt is using HSBC Bank in London is a strategic play on his part. This is because when your bank gets the check, it takes a long time for it to get to London, and a long time for your bank to get a response from HSBC Bank in London, whether it be a positve or negative response, and then a long time for your bank to reply to HSBC Bank's response, and so on and so forth.

My bank played that game with HSBC for about 7 months without me knowing. Your bank could easily be doing the same thing.

Watch out for Keelebay/Syt, I would stop using him asap. Nothing good could ever come from using him. He's a middle aged jew living in Canada, and he loves nothing more than to screw you.

Keelebay/Syt told me, and I quote, "There's a lot more money to be made in this game by screwing people."

How any of us could allow our exit broker to have a viewpoint like that is beyond me.

Jeff Smith

P.S. This is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. No matter what idiotic response to this post Keelebay/Syt comes out with, do not believe it.

[Due]

You also forgot to mention tha Keelebay/SYT also is Steve Goldmand

[Saddam Hussein]

Lets start the mother of all holy wars !!!!

SYT, take you golf club and stick in in your ...

[WETDOG]

That Steve Goldman ripped me off for $1500 and also ripped off many of my friends as well.


Wetdog

[richard]

I don't want to come across as an ass licking shill (thanks for the descriptiton 12clicks..) but i personally have always been paid by the aformentioned company.

This is my personal experience, only last month i received, and cashed, a substantial cheque.

Is there more to the story than you are letting on Jeff? (i heard that you had cheated the program?).

Richard.

[shane94]

I personally do not know Smitty but I do know Steve. And if Steve says he screwed him that is enough for me (:

Shane

[Hi Octane]

Jeff
It is a bummer to read that you have been screwed over now by TWO sponsors for signifigant sums of money. Hopefully you will be paid, although I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a check if I were you. But perhaps now you will take info about bad sponsors a bit more seriously. Just because a guy cut you a check, does not mean he is a good sponsor, and if you read enough warnings about someone, that should be enough warning. Where there is smoke, there is fire.
I personally was one of this guy's original victims, several years ago. I cannot believe this guy is STILL out there, and still screweing over webmasters. It boggles my mind that ANYONE would be ignorant enough to do business at ANY level with him - he is NOT to be trusted.
Be alert - because history has shown that we will see him surface once more, under another identity or company name. But the results will be the same: he will fuck over webmasters once again. That is his idea of "business".
Steve

[michaelw]

syt is the biggest asshole Ive ever met. He owes so many people money, inculding me. Ill be sure to add him to my list on my program as sponsers to avoid. I hope he burns in hell, I dont think he realizes that when he doesnt pay honest webmasters their money, he is stealing. Ive got so many screenshots of proof of him shaving my stats, and then he didnt even pay me.

[Saddam Hussein]

My side of the story is the same as many.

SYT is a big asshole.

He owes me a little money and everybody else money. I ask one time for my small amount, and he said "I am going to golf now".

WHAT A DICK !!

So fuck yourself with a 9 iron SYT !!

SYT is a complete joke http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Muff]

Well I would say the people at the bank are complete morons to take 7 months to declare a check insufficient. is that even possible thats ridiculously long.

Muff

[JewDoggyDogg]

hmm lets ethnically profile any webmaster that cheats...

[michaelw]

the checks bouced due to NSF

[nick]

what is the fact that he's "a middle aged jew" have to do with anything?

[Saddam Hussein]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JewDoggyDogg:
hmm lets ethnically profile any webmaster that cheats...</font>


Ok, so I am Iraqi, then naturally I am a big cheat?

Don't let my SCUD hit you where the man split you !!!

[DemonWolfe]

Steves (Hi-O) word is as good as gold to me as well.

I also unfortunately know a few other trustworthy webmasters who fell prey to Goldman...

Luckily, my good freinds were nice enough to warn me, so I didn't have to learn the hard way. http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

Thanks again to everyone who shares their bad experiences... It's helpful to everyone around you.

Have a good one,

John
DemonWolfe

[basschick]

Smitty, my whole family is jewish and honest - and never cheap, either. maybe you'd better blame his being a dick on Canada? (just kidding, folks - assholes come in every country)

[Muff]

Hey basschick that wasnt very nice ya damn Yankee http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/smile.gif

Muff

[magnatique]

damn yanks...

we've got the best chicks in here , that's worth millions if you ask me :P


I believe syt lives in my city, I think my partner called him once, and he was in mtl...

[syt]

Mag you're partially right, I spend 2 to 3 months in Montreal, one of the nicest cities in the world.

I spend as my days in the year in the very best city in the world, LONDON.

There's no where in the world like London, and thats a fact.

and thats London England not Ontario

[syt]

And while we're on the subject of London, if it wasn't for us British, the rest of the world would be a sad backward intollerable mess.

Long Live England

[Saddam Hussein]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syt:
And while we're on the subject of London, if it wasn't for us British, the rest of the world would be a sad backward intollerable mess.

Long Live England</font>

Is that why you drive on the wrong side of the road? http://bbs.adultwebmasterinfo.com/ubb/frown.gif

London is very expensive.

You do not have that much money.

Stop lying.

[syt]

We drive on the cforrect side of the street, if it wasn't for us, the world would be underdeveloped, ignorant and have no class.

How dare you say that crap.

Yes London is expensive, if you are an unemployed illeterate drop out. The average bloke in London lives better than anywhere else in the world. You know why?

Because London is the center of civilisation. Just look at our culture, heritage and history. Who else has our history?

Rule Britiania

[syt]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JewDoggyDogg:
hmm lets ethnically profile any webmaster that cheats...</font>

This shows the intellect of some people.

Get a life.

You should go read history, before you make such ant semetic remarks.

I feel sorry for you

[richard]

urm, i think he was directing that at Smitty's remark that your were a middle aged canadian jew...

[syt]

Being born in east london spent 95% of my liofe there, I hardly qualify as a Canadian jew.

But thats not the point, it's the slur on religous background that bothers me.

I don't see anyone say he's a XYZ Muslim, or XYZ Budist or XYZ Protestant?

so why say XYZ JEW????


I thought we were more intelligent than reducing hate or dislike to religous background.

I maybe wrong, but it bothers me, having been thru this shit all my life.

Ever hear the statement, "Catholic me down?"

[Saddam Hussein]

SYT,

Sorry to break it to you, but it is the wrong side of the road.

England is the centre?? Shit, last time I checked, it was America.

You are hiding out in Canada right now.

Why don't you come down to hymie town or go back to israel where you belong.

[Saddam Hussein]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by syt:
Being born in east london spent 95% of my liofe there, I hardly qualify as a Canadian jew.

</font>

Yeah right, I think I saw your ass in that movie "Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels"


Whats next, are you going to tell us that you are some kind of tough guy?

[Anton P]

SYT,

First of all London is not the most expensive place. Try living in San Francisco for a while.

Also this topic is not about London being the center of the world but about you bouncing his check.

[Saddam Hussein]

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Anton P:
SYT,

First of all London is not the most expensive place. Try living in San Francisco for a while.

Also this topic is not about London being the center of the world but about you bouncing his check.

</font>

LOL

[syt]

Anton Piss off, or should I post how many fucking times your partner has icqed me in the past 2 months to sell the traffic to me.

And get this straight, I don't bounce checks, if some shitty little bank does not know how to cash foreign checks, thats not my fault.

Hustler tell your partner to shut up please

[richard]

7 months before a bank says there is no money there?

What planet are you living on Jeff?

thats the best bit of bullshit i have heard from you i rekon.

thread closed.

Richard.